Deleting files from an empty recycle bin

On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 14:40:49 -0600, Mathedman
wrote:

On 11/3/2017 9:28 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 08:26:30 -0400, Big Al wrote:

I've emptied my recycle bin or so says Windows. I dual boot with Linux
and in Linux I have full ability to read (and edit) that folder
C:\$Recycle.bin. I noticed the other day I had two folders, one is
virtually empty and the other has some 3,000+ items in it of 130MB+.

Since I can delete it via Linux, is it safe? Will I screw up Windows?

On multiple occasions, I've used Treesize Free (in Admin mode) to
rummage around in the bowels of $Recycle.bin and System Volume
Information. I've never deleted anything from SVI, but quite a few times
I've deleted stuff from $Recycle.bin that seems to be 'stuck' there. So
far, I've never had a problem with it.

I'm not saying go full steam ahead, but now you have one additional data
point.


Is it maybe for the event of a restore to an earlier date ?

No, not in my case. System Restore is one of the first things I disable
around here. Besides, AFAIK, the Recycle Bin doesn't work that way.

On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 18:29:26 -0500, GS wrote:

If you want to avoid having the eventual and ongoing task of cleaning out the
Recycle Bin, why not just use 'Shift+Delete' to permanatley delete *unwanted*
files?

For most people, the answer will be because that method bypasses the
Recycle Bin entirely. Generally speaking, that's not a desirable
behavior.

On 11/6/2017 8:23 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 14:40:49 -0600, Mathedman
wrote:

On 11/3/2017 9:28 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 08:26:30 -0400, Big Al wrote:

I've emptied my recycle bin or so says Windows. I dual boot with Linux
and in Linux I have full ability to read (and edit) that folder
C:\$Recycle.bin. I noticed the other day I had two folders, one is
virtually empty and the other has some 3,000+ items in it of 130MB+.

Since I can delete it via Linux, is it safe? Will I screw up Windows?

On multiple occasions, I've used Treesize Free (in Admin mode) to
rummage around in the bowels of $Recycle.bin and System Volume
Information. I've never deleted anything from SVI, but quite a few times
I've deleted stuff from $Recycle.bin that seems to be 'stuck' there. So
far, I've never had a problem with it.

I'm not saying go full steam ahead, but now you have one additional data
point.


Is it maybe for the event of a restore to an earlier date ?

No, not in my case. System Restore is one of the first things I disable
around here. Besides, AFAIK, the Recycle Bin doesn't work that way.

I had reason to a system restore --by chance--with an empty recycle
the restored system had a recycle with material I had first eliminated.
i.e. the restore process also restores the recycle bin as it was on the
saved restore system date

Mathedman wrote:
On 11/6/2017 8:23 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 14:40:49 -0600, Mathedman
wrote:

On 11/3/2017 9:28 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 08:26:30 -0400, Big Al wrote:

I've emptied my recycle bin or so says Windows. I dual boot with
Linux
and in Linux I have full ability to read (and edit) that folder
C:\$Recycle.bin. I noticed the other day I had two folders, one is
virtually empty and the other has some 3,000+ items in it of 130MB+.

Since I can delete it via Linux, is it safe? Will I screw up
Windows?

On multiple occasions, I've used Treesize Free (in Admin mode) to
rummage around in the bowels of $Recycle.bin and System Volume
Information. I've never deleted anything from SVI, but quite a few
times
I've deleted stuff from $Recycle.bin that seems to be 'stuck' there. So
far, I've never had a problem with it.

I'm not saying go full steam ahead, but now you have one additional
data
point.


Is it maybe for the event of a restore to an earlier date ?

No, not in my case. System Restore is one of the first things I disable
around here. Besides, AFAIK, the Recycle Bin doesn't work that way.

I had reason to a system restore --by chance--with an empty recycle
the restored system had a recycle with material I had first eliminated.
i.e. the restore process also restores the recycle bin as it was on the
saved restore system date

Since trash bin files have to be stored *somewhere*, it
makes sense that if you restore from external backup, you could
also restore some portion of the trash bin to a
previous state.

The trash bin is... not that invisible :-)

*******

The System Restore point capability (part of the OS), varies
in feature set from OS to OS. You shouldn't use it as a
"cheesy backup system", or you'll be in for multiple
nasty surprises.

You can certainly leave it enabled, but don't think of it
as a "go to" solution. It *might* save your ass in an emergency.
Or it might not. For example, one thing of value it might
have, is a copy of your Registry files. Of course, your
external backups you've been making, they have Registry
files too, and those files are more accessible and
ready to go.

Paul