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Old December 9th 17, 11:44 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
mpois
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Default Can't get tablet to show desktop bar 'X' to close program

Until yesterday I could close programs on our Lenovo W10 tablet by
touching at the top of the screen and then tapping the 'X' at the right
hand end of the bar that pops down.

Now I can't get this bar to appear at all in tablet mode.

I've tried f11 when a keyboard is attached but it has no effect.

Is there a way to reactivate the bar in tablet mode or is this a new
'feature'?

Mpois
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Old December 9th 17, 12:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Can't get tablet to show desktop bar 'X' to close program

mpois wrote:
Until yesterday I could close programs on our Lenovo W10 tablet by
touching at the top of the screen and then tapping the 'X' at the right
hand end of the bar that pops down.

Now I can't get this bar to appear at all in tablet mode.

I've tried f11 when a keyboard is attached but it has no effect.

Is there a way to reactivate the bar in tablet mode or is this a new
'feature'?

Mpois


Well, alt-f4 closes things.

If a window has focus, the window will close.

If you click the desktop surface and then alt-f4,
the windows shutdown menu will appear.

And in the Windows 8.0 era, it was the only
way to close a Metro App, because there was
no "X" in the upper right corner during
Windows 8.0. Windows 8.1 fixed that and added
an "X" in the corner.

*******

Based on some "weird stuff" that was happening
today after a Windows Defender update, I recommend
rebooting. Normally, I would not expect a reboot
to do anything, but my symptoms cleared up
after a reboot.

Paul
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Old December 9th 17, 12:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
mpois
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Default Can't get tablet to show desktop bar 'X' to close program

Thanks,

The tablet is used by my wife who is not very computer literate. She
always uses it in tablet mode. If it is changed to desktop mode then the
title bar with the 'x' appears.

As for 'alt f4' - how do you do that using the on screen keyboard which
seems limited in its capabilities.

I was wondering it there is a registry setting (I'm sure ther must be)
that can be edited but I have no idea which.

We've rebooted a few times but to no effect.

Any more ideas please.

Mpois
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Old December 9th 17, 01:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can't get tablet to show desktop bar 'X' to close program

On sat, 9 dec 2017 11:40:00 +0000, mpois wrote:

Thanks,

The tablet is used by my wife who is not very computer literate.
She always uses it in tablet mode. If it is changed to desktop
mode then the title bar with the 'x' appears.

As for 'alt f4' - how do you do that using the on screen keyboard
which seems limited in its capabilities.

I was wondering it there is a registry setting (I'm sure ther
must be) that can be edited but I have no idea which.

We've rebooted a few times but to no effect.

Any more ideas please.

Mpois


For a full function on-screen keyboard, try this:
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/f...ard-windows-10
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Old December 9th 17, 05:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Can't get tablet to show desktop bar 'X' to close program

mpois wrote:
Thanks,

The tablet is used by my wife who is not very computer literate. She
always uses it in tablet mode. If it is changed to desktop mode then the
title bar with the 'x' appears.

As for 'alt f4' - how do you do that using the on screen keyboard which
seems limited in its capabilities.

I was wondering it there is a registry setting (I'm sure ther must be)
that can be edited but I have no idea which.

We've rebooted a few times but to no effect.

Any more ideas please.

Mpois


Well, I put the laptop in "tablet" mode, and
now I'm really out of ideas.

I couldn't manage to jam it in "full screen" mode
for example. And there's no point of me testing
desktop applications that happen to support full screen,
because they have a control to get out of full screen.

In terms of general window terminology, there are
three modes.

1) Windowed (small box, with decorations, has "X")
2) Maximized (decorated box fills the screen, has "X")
3) FullScreen (decorations are pushed off screen, so that
the video pane playing, takes up the full screen)

Now, in (3), there would be no "X". But there would
be a controls-bar near the bottom, with a full screen
symbol, as well as pressing the Esc key returns you
to maximized mode. Which does have decorations.

Well, I put my 16299 laptop in Tablet node, and
I could get (1) and (2) quite easily. Always
with - Box X decorations.

I could not get anything to do (3) mode. If I could
do that, I could demonstrate a loss of decorations, as
a potential mode.

And the tablet mode on my laptop was a mess, because
I don't have a touch panel. So I've flipped it back
to desktop mode, and I won't be trying that a second
time. Too frustrating. Yet another half-finished
GUI jigsaw puzzle.

And in terms of hot keys

1) F11 did nothing at all
2) Alt-F4 didn[t work, with maybe one exception.
My magic bullet wasn't a lot of help.

So even any keyboard tricks didn't really work
worth a darn. Not good. It's obviously an environment
in need of gestures, and without a touch screen,
I just can't enter anything tablet mode "likes".

*******

Sorry, can't think of another thing to try, except
using a Restore point to return to a time before
the problem showed up. Maybe it was caused by an update.

Paul
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Old December 9th 17, 08:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can't get tablet to show desktop bar 'X' to close program

mpois wrote:

Until yesterday I could close programs on our Lenovo W10 tablet by
touching at the top of the screen and then tapping the 'X' at the right
hand end of the bar that pops down.

Now I can't get this bar to appear at all in tablet mode.

I've tried f11 when a keyboard is attached but it has no effect.

Is there a way to reactivate the bar in tablet mode or is this a new
'feature'?


In WHAT app? Every app? If just one app, likely you resized its window
so it is bigger than the screen. When the app's window has focus, hit
Alt+Spacebare to activate the window's control menu then hit S (to
[re]size) and use the left/right/up/down arrow keys to resize the
window. The first arrow key you hit decides which edge of the window to
move, so hit up arrow first if it is the top edge you want to move, and
then hit the down arrow to bring down the top edge. If the top edge of
all windows are outside the monitor's top edge then the screen size is
bigger than the monitor's size and you'll have to use the video driver's
software controls to resize the screen to match the monitor. The screen
resolution might equal the native resolution of the monitor but the
screen position could be off.

Some applications can go into fullscreen mode. No, not a maximized
window (that still has a menu bar) but fullscreened (with no menu).
Often moving the mouse cursor to the top of the screen will temporarily
drop down the menu bar. For many apps, F11 puts the app into fullscreen
mode, so hit F11 to take it out of fullscreen mode.
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Old December 9th 17, 11:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
mpois
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Default Can't get tablet to show desktop bar 'X' to close program

VanguardLH:
mpois wrote:

Until yesterday I could close programs on our Lenovo W10 tablet by
touching at the top of the screen and then tapping the 'X' at the

right
hand end of the bar that pops down.

Now I can't get this bar to appear at all in tablet mode.

I've tried f11 when a keyboard is attached but it has no effect.

Is there a way to reactivate the bar in tablet mode or is this a new
'feature'?


In WHAT app? Every app? If just one app, likely you resized its

window
so it is bigger than the screen. When the app's window has focus,

hit
Alt+Spacebare to activate the window's control menu then hit S (to
[re]size) and use the left/right/up/down arrow keys to resize the
window. The first arrow key you hit decides which edge of the window

to
move, so hit up arrow first if it is the top edge you want to move,

and
then hit the down arrow to bring down the top edge. If the top edge

of
all windows are outside the monitor's top edge then the screen size

is
bigger than the monitor's size and you'll have to use the video

driver's
software controls to resize the screen to match the monitor. The

screen
resolution might equal the native resolution of the monitor but the
screen position could be off.

Some applications can go into fullscreen mode. No, not a maximized
window (that still has a menu bar) but fullscreened (with no menu).
Often moving the mouse cursor to the top of the screen will

temporarily
drop down the menu bar. For many apps, F11 puts the app into

fullscreen
mode, so hit F11 to take it out of fullscreen mode.


It seems that all apps in tablet mode are full screen with no menu and
touching at the top of the screen doesn't temporarily drop down the menu
bar. This is what changed yesterday - before that the menu bar did drop
down temporarily and allowed for simple closure. For now my wife just
swipes the whole of the window to the bottom of the screen as a quick
and simple alternative to close the program. I'll check what (if any)
updates were installed automatically yesterday and if possible I'll try
and uninstall them and see what happens.

Mpois
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Old December 13th 17, 02:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can't get tablet to show desktop bar 'X' to close program - now solved

Following the updates this last 'patch tuesday' (12/12/17) the desktop
bar has now been reactivated so I guess it has been put right by MS.
 




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