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30 things that might be obsolete by 2020
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30 things that might be obsolete by 2020
"Good Guy" wrote in message news
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/30-things-that-might-be-obsolete-by-2020/ss-BBGA67B Landlines will only disappear when *everyone* can get perfect mobile reception with no dropouts or dead spots. Dedicated cameras will last for a good while yet. Mobiles have smaller sensors which means worse signal-to-noise and therefore more noise-reduction artefacts, and they don't have zoom lenses to allow you to set any focal length you want within a range. The controls are on-screen which is more difficult to find and operate than a dedicated focus ring, zoom ring or buttons. I use a compact camera for the convenience of size when I don't want to use my SLR, but a phone is no substitute for the compact, let alone the SLR. USB hard drives and thumb drives have their uses: you don't have to log in to a central server to copy the data off the cloud, and you are not dependent on an internet connection which will always be slower than a USB connection to a hard drive. I like CDs and DVDs for one very good reason: I've bought the right to watch the film or listen to the music whenever I want and as many times as I want. Pay-to-listen and pay-to-view means you pay all over again every time you want to watch/listen. I agree about payphones and fax machines. |
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30 things that might be obsolete by 2020
Hopefully one of them will be this troll posting in HTML...
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30 things that might be obsolete by 2020
On 12/13/17 7:48 AM, Good Guy wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/30-things-that-might-be-obsolete-by-2020/ss-BBGA67B Another writer that knows so little about this country, and some of the systems in place. Newspapers- Until everyone, regardless of economic situation, has personal access to the internet, newspapers will be around for a long time in many areas of the country. Hard drives and thumb drives- One thing you can be sure of... Once the cloud is the predominant storage medium, prices will go up. I've yet to see anyone who predicts the cloud will be the "end all" for anything ever address what happens when the connection is lost. Not just for a few hours, but days. Paper maps- Sadly, Google Maps and the other online maps do not contain the information you can get from a good paper map. Especially for an overall view of a large area. Paperwork- Some of the items mentioned will require changes in the law. And, having paper data protects you from massive data hacking and infrastructure failure. Fax machines- Legal changes will be needed here. Streaming services- Something else to continuously suck the money out of your pocket. Bills in the mail- The idea of online bill pay only works if the vendor pays for it. Having a physical bill is a much better memory jogger than an email. I see a response here, print the email. Yea, so much for getting rid of that paperwork. Landlines- Only the stupid will give that up. Know what happens to that smartphone when a cell tower and/or it's tower goes down? Gone, baby, gone. No way to make an emergency phone call, nor reverse 911 calls. Landlines provide their own power. Plus, basic plans are cheaper. Reference books- People have forgotten about the ease of browsing through books. Electronic versions require you to know the right words in order to search. With a book, you can browse and find what you want far easier than electronic browsing. If you don't understand this, then you need to get one of Good Guy's octogenarians to show you how to do it. Checkbooks- They'll be around, not everyone wants their personal data being bounced around the web. There will always be who refuse to absorb the expense of the electronic future. Travel agencies- As of yet, I don't know of an app that can out do a good travel agent. Not to mention, the ability of the agent to find alternate/better destinations for the person looking to just go somewhere. Receipts- If they were used for just their purpose, receipts wouldn't be long. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit) Thunderbird 52.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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On 12/13/2017 12:39 PM, NY wrote:
"Good Guy" wrote in message news https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/30-things-that-might-be-obsolete-by-2020/ss-BBGA67B Dedicated cameras will last for a good while yet. Mobiles have smaller sensors which means worse signal-to-noise and therefore more noise-reduction artefacts, and they don't have zoom lenses to allow you to set any focal length you want within a range. The controls are on-screen which is more difficult to find and operate than a dedicated focus ring, zoom ring or buttons. I use a compact camera for the convenience of size when I don't want to use my SLR, but a phone is no substitute for the compact, let alone the SLR. I *have* to use a small point and shoot camera for my job. I take anywhere from 200-400 pictures at a time and then they have to be transferred to my computer and used in a report. There is also a chance that I could drop and break the camera while using it (it's happened), so I have a backup with me at all times. A phone is simply out of the question for my line of work. I like CDs and DVDs for one very good reason: I've bought the right to watch the film or listen to the music wheneverÂ*I want and as many times as I want. Pay-to-listen and pay-to-view means you pay all over again every time you want to watch/listen. If you care about sound quality like I do CDs is the only way to go. I didn't invest thousands of dollars in my stereo eqt to listen to crappy MP3s that have to be downloaded. The same applies to DVDs/Blu-rays. Streaming movies lack bass. |
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On 12/16/2017 3:45 PM, Ron wrote:
On 12/13/2017 12:39 PM, NY wrote: "Good Guy" wrote in message news https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/30-things-that-might-be-obsolete-by-2020/ss-BBGA67B Dedicated cameras will last for a good while yet. Mobiles have smaller sensors which means worse signal-to-noise and therefore more noise-reduction artefacts, and they don't have zoom lenses to allow you to set any focal length you want within a range. The controls are on-screen which is more difficult to find and operate than a dedicated focus ring, zoom ring or buttons. I use a compact camera for the convenience of size when I don't want to use my SLR, but a phone is no substitute for the compact, let alone the SLR. I *have* to use a small point and shoot camera for my job. I take anywhere from 200-400 pictures at a time and then they have to be transferred to my computer and used in a report. There is also a chance that I could drop and break the camera while using it (it's happened), so I have a backup with me at all times. A phone is simply out of the question for my line of work. I like CDs and DVDs for one very good reason: I've bought the right to watch the film or listen to the music wheneverÂ*I want and as many times as I want. Pay-to-listen and pay-to-view means you pay all over again every time you want to watch/listen. If you care about sound quality like I do CDs is the only way to go. I didn't invest thousands of dollars in my stereo eqt to listen to crappy MP3s that have to be downloaded. The same applies to DVDs/Blu-rays. Streaming movies lack bass. Oh, and I also need a dedicated GPS device for my job. I have to take business calls while I'm driving. |
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On 12/16/2017 03:49 PM, Ron wrote:
On 12/16/2017 3:45 PM, Ron wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:39 PM, NY wrote: "Good Guy" wrote in message news https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/30-things-that-might-be-obsolete-by-2020/ss-BBGA67B Dedicated cameras will last for a good while yet. Mobiles have smaller sensors which means worse signal-to-noise and therefore more noise-reduction artefacts, and they don't have zoom lenses to allow you to set any focal length you want within a range. The controls are on-screen which is more difficult to find and operate than a dedicated focus ring, zoom ring or buttons. I use a compact camera for the convenience of size when I don't want to use my SLR, but a phone is no substitute for the compact, let alone the SLR. I *have* to use a small point and shoot camera for my job. I take anywhere from 200-400 pictures at a time and then they have to be transferred to my computer and used in a report. There is also a chance that I could drop and break the camera while using it (it's happened), so I have a backup with me at all times. A phone is simply out of the question for my line of work. I like CDs and DVDs for one very good reason: I've bought the right to watch the film or listen to the music wheneverÂ*I want and as many times as I want. Pay-to-listen and pay-to-view means you pay all over again every time you want to watch/listen. If you care about sound quality like I do CDs is the only way to go. I didn't invest thousands of dollars in my stereo eqt to listen to crappy MP3s that have to be downloaded. The same applies to DVDs/Blu-rays. Streaming movies lack bass. Oh, and I also need a dedicated GPS device for my job. I have to take business calls while I'm driving. I like to take my gps with me so if a rental does not have one, which is now getting to the where they all do, but... I have one. I never buy movies on Verizon. I know they are mine to view all the time, but what if I drop my verizon account? And move to Comcast for example. How do I get the movies? Al. |
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On 16 Dec 2017, Ron wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10: If you care about sound quality like I do CDs is the only way to go. I didn't invest thousands of dollars in my stereo eqt to listen to crappy MP3s that have to be downloaded. MP3s don't have to be downloaded, you can make them yourself. And you don't have to listen to crappy MP3s, you can listen to high quality ones that are all but indistinguishable from the source. There are also lossless digital audio formats that are bit-for-bit identical to the source. The same applies to DVDs/Blu-rays. Streaming movies lack bass. That may be true in some cases, but not in general. Any audio degradation would be due to compression, which would be most audible in the high frequencies. You are at the mercy of whoever and whatever processes the audio, and they/it could attenuate the bass as well, but I don't think it's general practice. Also, the audio on most DVDs is compressed in similar ways to streaming audio. The processing can be done well or poorly. |
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On 12/16/2017 5:02 PM, Nil wrote:
On 16 Dec 2017, Ron wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: If you care about sound quality like I do CDs is the only way to go. I didn't invest thousands of dollars in my stereo eqt to listen to crappy MP3s that have to be downloaded. MP3s don't have to be downloaded, you can make them yourself. And you don't have to listen to crappy MP3s, you can listen to high quality ones that are all but indistinguishable from the source. There are also lossless digital audio formats that are bit-for-bit identical to the source. Yeah, make them myself from my own CDs, otherwise, you have to download them. On my stereo system *I* can tell the difference, no matter how "high quality" are "lossless" they are, The same applies to DVDs/Blu-rays. Streaming movies lack bass. That may be true in some cases, but not in general. Any audio degradation would be due to compression, which would be most audible in the high frequencies. You are at the mercy of whoever and whatever processes the audio, and they/it could attenuate the bass as well, but I don't think it's general practice. Also, the audio on most DVDs is compressed in similar ways to streaming audio. The processing can be done well or poorly. I have streamed movies and you couldn't even tell I have a subwoofer. The same is true with my cable TV audio. DVD and Blu-ray is far superior in the bass department. |
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 20:15:09 -0500, Ron wrote:
On 12/16/2017 5:02 PM, Nil wrote: On 16 Dec 2017, Ron wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: If you care about sound quality like I do CDs is the only way to go. I didn't invest thousands of dollars in my stereo eqt to listen to crappy MP3s that have to be downloaded. MP3s don't have to be downloaded, you can make them yourself. And you don't have to listen to crappy MP3s, you can listen to high quality ones that are all but indistinguishable from the source. There are also lossless digital audio formats that are bit-for-bit identical to the source. Yeah, make them myself from my own CDs, otherwise, you have to download them. On my stereo system *I* can tell the difference, no matter how "high quality" are "lossless" they are, Over the past decade, I've seen an awful lot of "I can hear the difference" claims. Those who have submitted to blind listening tests have fared no better than chance. Every time. I haven't seen a single exception. As for the lossless formats such as flac and a few others, you won't hear a difference because there *is* no difference, so that's a non-starter. The same applies to DVDs/Blu-rays. Streaming movies lack bass. That may be true in some cases, but not in general. Any audio degradation would be due to compression, which would be most audible in the high frequencies. You are at the mercy of whoever and whatever processes the audio, and they/it could attenuate the bass as well, but I don't think it's general practice. Also, the audio on most DVDs is compressed in similar ways to streaming audio. The processing can be done well or poorly. I have streamed movies and you couldn't even tell I have a subwoofer. The same is true with my cable TV audio. DVD and Blu-ray is far superior in the bass department. It's just as Nil said, your streaming experience depends to a large degree on where you're streaming from. You might try putting your DVD/BluRay movies on your own server so that you can stream locally. That, at least, saves the discs from possible damage from handling and lets you watch movie after movie without getting up from your chair, in case that's important. By the way, if you're still watching DVDs, I think you're not as serious about video quality as you are about sound quality. |
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 12:34:43 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote: Landlines- Only the stupid will give that up. Know what happens to that smartphone when a cell tower and/or it's tower goes down? Gone, baby, gone. No way to make an emergency phone call, nor reverse 911 calls. Landlines provide their own power. Plus, basic plans are cheaper. Are you sure your landline is really a landline? I believe a lot of them have changed to VOIP going to a local "box" in your neighborhood where your old copper pair is now powered. Many so called "land lines" are no longer provided by a copper pair going back to a central office where they are powered by a ton of 48 volt batteries. Is that "box" in your neighborhood backed up any better than cell sites? |
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On 12/16/17 6:44 PM, Pat wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 12:34:43 -0700, Ken Springer wrote: Landlines- Only the stupid will give that up. Know what happens to that smartphone when a cell tower and/or it's tower goes down? Gone, baby, gone. No way to make an emergency phone call, nor reverse 911 calls. Landlines provide their own power. Plus, basic plans are cheaper. Are you sure your landline is really a landline? I believe a lot of them have changed to VOIP going to a local "box" in your neighborhood where your old copper pair is now powered. Many so called "land lines" are no longer provided by a copper pair going back to a central office where they are powered by a ton of 48 volt batteries. Is that "box" in your neighborhood backed up any better than cell sites? If it is VOIP, it's not by my option. And all of the wiring here is copper. Probably 30 years old. When I moved here, my internet options were..... just one, dial-up. Eventually, I learned about satellite, and moved to that. After a few years, the phone company laid fiber optics, so now I have DSL. As all of the lines are buried, except for the pedestals where connections are made, no worries about power. Only lightning, which in this area is quite possible. A strike about a half mile away knocked us all offline, both phone and internet. Took 3 days to get it all back up and running. Yes, I have a Tracfone. I could use it, if it worked. Know why it doesn't work? No line of sight to the cell tower. G You have to be in the right spot for them to work. So, there's a lot of pull outs in the county, where the Sheriff's deputies and the State Patrol can stop and have cell service. I get tired of reading an article where the author thinks he/she knows how things work everywhere, and you find out the person knows very little. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit) Thunderbird 52.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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On 12/16/17 7:08 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 12/16/17 6:44 PM, Pat wrote: On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 12:34:43 -0700, Ken Springer wrote: Landlines- Only the stupid will give that up. Know what happens to that smartphone when a cell tower and/or it's tower goes down? Gone, baby, gone. No way to make an emergency phone call, nor reverse 911 calls. Landlines provide their own power. Plus, basic plans are cheaper. Are you sure your landline is really a landline? I believe a lot of them have changed to VOIP going to a local "box" in your neighborhood where your old copper pair is now powered. Many so called "land lines" are no longer provided by a copper pair going back to a central office where they are powered by a ton of 48 volt batteries. Is that "box" in your neighborhood backed up any better than cell sites? If it is VOIP, it's not by my option. And all of the wiring here is copper. Probably 30 years old. When I moved here, my internet options were..... just one, dial-up. Eventually, I learned about satellite, and moved to that. After a few years, the phone company laid fiber optics, so now I have DSL. As all of the lines are buried, except for the pedestals where connections are made, no worries about power. Only lightning, which in this area is quite possible. A strike about a half mile away knocked us all offline, both phone and internet. Took 3 days to get it all back up and running. Yes, I have a Tracfone. I could use it, if it worked. Know why it doesn't work? No line of sight to the cell tower. G You have to be in the right spot for them to work. So, there's a lot of pull outs in the county, where the Sheriff's deputies and the State Patrol can stop and have cell service. I get tired of reading an article where the author thinks he/she knows how things work everywhere, and you find out the person knows very little. I forgot to add, there are spots in this area where the phone company refuses to provide dial-up anymore, and none of the satellite providers and hybrid providers can see their satellites or towers. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit) Thunderbird 52.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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On 16 Dec 2017, Ron wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10: Yeah, make them myself from my own CDs, otherwise, you have to download them. On my stereo system *I* can tell the difference, no matter how "high quality" are "lossless" they are, It's silly to put quotes around lossless. There really is no loss of audio data between CD or other sources and a lossless digital file. And many blind tests have shown that even the most critical listeners can't tell the difference between the highest-quality MP3 encoded music and the original source, except certain highly dynamic music played loudly in a critical listening environment. The differences, if they can be detected at all, tend to be a slight smearing of the soundstage and artifacts in very quiet passages like reverb tails fading into silence. I have streamed movies and you couldn't even tell I have a subwoofer. The same is true with my cable TV audio. DVD and Blu-ray is far superior in the bass department. Have you compared a stream of a movie side-by-side with a DVD? I'm skeptical there is that great a difference. In my experience, the major difference between them is the picture quality, not the sound. If the bass truly drops out, that implies a phase or other problem with the stream or with your setup. Blu-ray I don't know much about. |
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On 16 Dec 2017, Ron wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10: I know that. I'm talking about MP3s that some people claim are lossless and sound just as good as a CD. Nobody with an ounce of sense has *ever* said that an MP3 is lossless. That's a complete contradiction of terms: MP3 is lossy by definition. Lossless formats include .FLAC, .ALAC, Monkey's Audio, .WAV, .AIFF, and others. |
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