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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
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I have a Dell with Windows 8 and purchased a 8.1 for my wife's laptop after the hard disk packed it in. Does anyone know if the 8.1 can be used to upgrade a version 8 without the need to download and not destroying authenticity? Thanks |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
On 07/01/2014 6:24 AM, The Razor's Edge wrote:
Dear Group I have a Dell with Windows 8 and purchased a 8.1 for my wife's laptop after the hard disk packed it in. Does anyone know if the 8.1 can be used to upgrade a version 8 without the need to download and not destroying authenticity? You can indeed download Windows 8.1 once and use the same executable to install on several PCs. When you download from the Windows Store, there should be instructions at the bottom in the event of your needing to install on multiple PCs. -- Silver Slimer GNU/Linux is communism |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
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Silver Slimer typed: On 07/01/2014 6:24 AM, The Razor's Edge wrote: Dear Group I have a Dell with Windows 8 and purchased a 8.1 for my wife's laptop after the hard disk packed it in. Does anyone know if the 8.1 can be used to upgrade a version 8 without the need to download and not destroying authenticity? You can indeed download Windows 8.1 once and use the same executable to install on several PCs. When you download from the Windows Store, there should be instructions at the bottom in the event of your needing to install on multiple PCs. How easy is it to undo the upgrade? One of my Windows 8.0 machines is a Dell Latitude ST. And they come with Windows 7 SP1 Pro and they work perfectly if you don't change anything. Trying to get anything else running it takes tons of work and lots of luck. And I got Windows 8.0 working on one without Standby, Hibernation, Webcams, and shutdown locks up half of the time. And I never got updates to work on this machine either. After about 4 reboots, Windows 8 reports it is restoring back to be previous state and all updates are lost. So without sacrificing a pure virgin to the gods first, I don't think 8.1 would go well on that machine. :-( -- Bill Motion Computing LE1700 Tablet ('09 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core2 Duo L7400 1.5GHz - 2GB RAM Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 SP2 |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
On 07/01/2014 9:51 AM, BillW50 wrote:
How easy is it to undo the upgrade? One of my Windows 8.0 machines is a Dell Latitude ST. And they come with Windows 7 SP1 Pro and they work perfectly if you don't change anything. Trying to get anything else running it takes tons of work and lots of luck. And I got Windows 8.0 working on one without Standby, Hibernation, Webcams, and shutdown locks up half of the time. And I never got updates to work on this machine either. After about 4 reboots, Windows 8 reports it is restoring back to be previous state and all updates are lost. So without sacrificing a pure virgin to the gods first, I don't think 8.1 would go well on that machine. :-( I can't speak for all machines but Windows 8.1 runs beautifully on my machine. The one issue I had was that Windows Media Player didn't want to enter the program after the initial setup but that might have had something to do with the fact that IE11 was uninstalled and I haven't tried it since since WMP11 is a pretty useless program to me. Other than that though, it is fantastic. -- Silver Slimer GNU/Linux is communism |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 08:59:02 -0500, Silver Slimer wrote:
On 07/01/2014 6:24 AM, The Razor's Edge wrote: Dear Group I have a Dell with Windows 8 and purchased a 8.1 for my wife's laptop after the hard disk packed it in. Does anyone know if the 8.1 can be used to upgrade a version 8 without the need to download and not destroying authenticity? You can indeed download Windows 8.1 once and use the same executable to install on several PCs. When you download from the Windows Store, there should be instructions at the bottom in the event of your needing to install on multiple PCs. Care to tell me how you can download Windows 8.1 update from the Store or elsewhere so you can use it as an exe file on other machines if you have a retail or OEM version of Windows 8 and NOT a volume license one. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
On 07/01/2014 11:36 AM, trinity wrote:
Care to tell me how you can download Windows 8.1 update from the Store or elsewhere so you can use it as an exe file on other machines if you have a retail or OEM version of Windows 8 and NOT a volume license one. Look at this: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-dow...8-product-key/ -- Silver Slimer GNU/Linux is communism |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:57:27 -0500, Silver Slimer wrote:
On 07/01/2014 11:36 AM, trinity wrote: Care to tell me how you can download Windows 8.1 update from the Store or elsewhere so you can use it as an exe file on other machines if you have a retail or OEM version of Windows 8 and NOT a volume license one. Look at this: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-dow...so-file-using- your-windows-8-product-key/ Thanks for the link. Will try this out at the weekend. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
On 07/01/2014 12:05 PM, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
On 2014-01-07 12:03 PM, trinity wrote: On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:57:27 -0500, Silver Slimer wrote: On 07/01/2014 11:36 AM, trinity wrote: Care to tell me how you can download Windows 8.1 update from the Store or elsewhere so you can use it as an exe file on other machines if you have a retail or OEM version of Windows 8 and NOT a volume license one. Look at this: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-dow...so-file-using- your-windows-8-product-key/ Thanks for the link. Will try this out at the weekend. The product key is tied to the motherboard, so unless you have a site licence, you can install the upgrade only on the original machine. Well, I haven't tried it myself since I only have one Windows 8 machine but this is the method which was suggested by MaximumPC a few months ago for multiple computers. The fact that the product key is already entered when the download is made should indicate that it is only to be used on the first computer, I agree, but this might also be a work-around. It's worth a try, either way and let's all hope that trinity gets the job done with it. -- Silver Slimer GNU/Linux is communism |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 12:05:22 -0500, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
On 2014-01-07 12:03 PM, trinity wrote: On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:57:27 -0500, Silver Slimer wrote: On 07/01/2014 11:36 AM, trinity wrote: Care to tell me how you can download Windows 8.1 update from the Store or elsewhere so you can use it as an exe file on other machines if you have a retail or OEM version of Windows 8 and NOT a volume license one. Look at this: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-dow...so-file-using- your-windows-8-product-key/ Thanks for the link. Will try this out at the weekend. The product key is tied to the motherboard, so unless you have a site licence, you can install the upgrade only on the original machine. HTH Wolf, thanks for your input. I was expecting that to be the case as in all I've read so far MS seem very clear that any retail/OEM W8 installs must use the store for W8.1 updating. I have a volume license update disc for the machines that are under a volume license but it's some OEM machines that I need to update. I was a little dubious when Silver Slimer seemed to be saying that there was a method of doing this work but his next reply seems to back track. Anyway let's see if it does indeed work. If it does I'll report back after the weekend. But don't hold your breath. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
On 07/01/2014 1:42 PM, trinity wrote:
Wolf, thanks for your input. I was expecting that to be the case as in all I've read so far MS seem very clear that any retail/OEM W8 installs must use the store for W8.1 updating. I have a volume license update disc for the machines that are under a volume license but it's some OEM machines that I need to update. I was a little dubious when Silver Slimer seemed to be saying that there was a method of doing this work but his next reply seems to back track. Anyway let's see if it does indeed work. If it does I'll report back after the weekend. But don't hold your breath. Please note that this isn't MY solution, all credit goes to MaximumPC for suggesting it in an issue several months ago. I assume that they tested it on multiple machines before publishing it. -- Silver Slimer GNU/Linux is communism |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
trinity wrote, On 1/7/2014 1:42 PM:
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 12:05:22 -0500, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote: On 2014-01-07 12:03 PM, trinity wrote: On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:57:27 -0500, Silver Slimer wrote: On 07/01/2014 11:36 AM, trinity wrote: Care to tell me how you can download Windows 8.1 update from the Store or elsewhere so you can use it as an exe file on other machines if you have a retail or OEM version of Windows 8 and NOT a volume license one. Look at this: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-dow...so-file-using- your-windows-8-product-key/ Thanks for the link. Will try this out at the weekend. The product key is tied to the motherboard, so unless you have a site licence, you can install the upgrade only on the original machine. HTH Wolf, thanks for your input. I was expecting that to be the case as in all I've read so far MS seem very clear that any retail/OEM W8 installs must use the store for W8.1 updating. I have a volume license update disc for the machines that are under a volume license but it's some OEM machines that I need to update. I was a little dubious when Silver Slimer seemed to be saying that there was a method of doing this work but his next reply seems to back track. Anyway let's see if it does indeed work. If it does I'll report back after the weekend. But don't hold your breath. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com You might wish to read the comments in that Redmondpie. article before proceeding. This method has been published by a variety of different sources with feedback (comments/questions) from respective readers with reports of success and failure. Fyi...if following that process/method it is important to note that the bitness (32 or 64 bit) of the machine performing the download will determine the bitness of the received file. - i.e. you can't use a 32 bit machine to get 64 bit or vice versa One final 'bit' of advice. It's probably a good idea to use the Win 8 Store app to obtain/upgrade to 8.1 from Win 8.0 OEM machines. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
BillW50 said on 1/7/2014 9:51 AM: In , Silver Slimer typed: On 07/01/2014 6:24 AM, The Razor's Edge wrote: Dear Group I have a Dell with Windows 8 and purchased a 8.1 for my wife's laptop after the hard disk packed it in. Does anyone know if the 8.1 can be used to upgrade a version 8 without the need to download and not destroying authenticity? You can indeed download Windows 8.1 once and use the same executable to install on several PCs. When you download from the Windows Store, there should be instructions at the bottom in the event of your needing to install on multiple PCs. How easy is it to undo the upgrade? One of my Windows 8.0 machines is a Dell Latitude ST. And they come with Windows 7 SP1 Pro and they work perfectly if you don't change anything. Trying to get anything else running it takes tons of work and lots of luck. And I got Windows 8.0 working on one without Standby, Hibernation, Webcams, and shutdown locks up half of the time. And I never got updates to work on this machine either. After about 4 reboots, Windows 8 reports it is restoring back to be previous state and all updates are lost. So without sacrificing a pure virgin to the gods first, I don't think 8.1 would go well on that machine. :-( Like most upgrades, I would suggest you install 8.0 (or 8.1) virgin. I tried the 7-8 upgrade and it just seemed to carry too much baggage. I restarted and did the "format & load" and that seemed to give me a better experience. 8 - 8.1 was nothing more than a time factor. |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
The question was "without the need to download"
After I install the 8.1 on my wife's machine and authenticate it can insert the windows 8.1 CD and upgrade my 8.1 without destroying my 8.0 serial number. |
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Upgrading to WIndows 8.1
The Razor's Edge wrote, On 1/13/2014 6:47 AM:
The question was "without the need to download" After I install the 8.1 on my wife's machine and authenticate it can insert the windows 8.1 CD and upgrade my 8.1 without destroying my 8.0 serial number. You also earlier wrote qp I have a Dell with Windows 8 and purchased a 8.1 for my wife's laptop after the hard disk packed it in. Does anyone know if the 8.1 can be used to upgrade a version 8 without the need to download and not destroying authenticity? /qp Thus the answer to your question is no. 8.1 is available for purchase as a full version, not an upgrade version and comes with an 8.1 product key. The 8.1 full retail version performs the following tasks - clean install 8.1 on an 8.0 machine by booting (no upgrade from booting the dvd) or - upgrade install (from 8.0 to 8.1) by running setup.exe on the 8.1 DVD from within Windows 8.0 or - clean install 8.1 on a compatible hardware earlier o/s (e.g. Win7, Vista) All routes require use of the DVD included 8.1 product key. One can not use it later to upgrade a different 8.0 pc **and retain** the 8.0 license. One can use that same purchased retail DVD to perform the same above (clean install or upgrade) on another machine if one purchases an additional Win 8.1 Product Key. (i.e. you still need two separate licenses) -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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