Unable to download and install W8.1 from MS App Store to upgrade W8.0 machines.

Hello.

I am having problems downloading and installing W8.1 update from MS App
Store due to these error: http://i.imgur.com/joyNfqZ.gif ... This was
also a brand new administrator account. I created it from Windows'
classic control panel. I did notice this client's machine autologins
when booting Windows up hence why I made a new local administrator
(NewAdmin name) Windows account due to http://i.imgur.com/Tq0Cfvd.gif
error. I am not sure if that is related?

What's wrong and how do I fix it? Thank you in advance.
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On 01/07/2014 12:39 PM, Ant wrote:
Hello.

I am having problems downloading and installing W8.1 update from MS App
Store due to these error: http://i.imgur.com/joyNfqZ.gif ... This was
also a brand new administrator account. I created it from Windows'
classic control panel. I did notice this client's machine autologins
when booting Windows up hence why I made a new local administrator
(NewAdmin name) Windows account due to http://i.imgur.com/Tq0Cfvd.gif
error. I am not sure if that is related?

What's wrong and how do I fix it? Thank you in advance.




Looks like you are logged into the administrator's profile rather than a
user account with administrative privileges .

I am having problems downloading and installing W8.1 update from MS App
Store due to these error: http://i.imgur.com/joyNfqZ.gif ... This was
also a brand new administrator account. I created it from Windows'
classic control panel. I did notice this client's machine autologins
when booting Windows up hence why I made a new local administrator
(NewAdmin name) Windows account due to http://i.imgur.com/Tq0Cfvd.gif
error. I am not sure if that is related?

What's wrong and how do I fix it? Thank you in advance.

Looks like you are logged into the administrator's profile rather than a
user account with administrative privileges .

So, how do I make a full administrator account then if doing it from
control panel is the correct way?
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On 01/07/2014 01:02 PM, Ant wrote:
I am having problems downloading and installing W8.1 update from MS App
Store due to these error: http://i.imgur.com/joyNfqZ.gif ... This was
also a brand new administrator account. I created it from Windows'
classic control panel. I did notice this client's machine autologins
when booting Windows up hence why I made a new local administrator
(NewAdmin name) Windows account due to http://i.imgur.com/Tq0Cfvd.gif
error. I am not sure if that is related?

What's wrong and how do I fix it? Thank you in advance.

Looks like you are logged into the administrator's profile rather than a
user account with administrative privileges .

So, how do I make a full administrator account then if doing it from
control panel is the correct way?




http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ount=windows-8

I am having problems downloading and installing W8.1 update from MS App
Store due to these error: http://i.imgur.com/joyNfqZ.gif ... This was
also a brand new administrator account. I created it from Windows'
classic control panel. I did notice this client's machine autologins
when booting Windows up hence why I made a new local administrator
(NewAdmin name) Windows account due to http://i.imgur.com/Tq0Cfvd.gif
error. I am not sure if that is related?

What's wrong and how do I fix it? Thank you in advance.

Looks like you are logged into the administrator's profile rather than a
user account with administrative privileges .

So, how do I make a full administrator account then if doing it from
control panel is not the correct way?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ount=windows-8

That is the same thing I did earlier through Control Panel I(hate W8's
gestures with a desktop mouse -- ugh). Here is what I have in my account
list: http://i.imgur.com/R6IyfCK.gif ... All local accounts. NewAdmin2
is the latest newest admin. account I just made.
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In m,
Ant typed:

That is the same thing I did earlier through Control Panel I(hate W8's
gestures with a desktop mouse -- ugh).

I use both all of the time. And I can't think of anything that requires
only gestures. Everything you can do with the desktop mouse can also be
done with the keyboard alone as well. Well nothing that comes off of the
top of my head anyway.

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On 1/7/2014 2:52 PM, Ant wrote:
That is the same thing I did earlier through Control Panel I(hate W8's
gestures with a desktop mouse -- ugh). Here is what I have in my account
list:http://i.imgur.com/R6IyfCK.gif ... All local accounts. NewAdmin2
is the latest newest admin. account I just made.


From the desktop, all of the Windows 8.1 control parameters can be
accessed by right clicking MS Icon in the lower left corner of the
desktop screen. These include the Shutdown functions, control panel,
task manager, all of the network functions, etc.

Since Windows 8.1 can boot directly to the desktop and if windows 8.1 is
properly set up you will never need to see the metro (I believe that is
what it is called) interface again.

Search for "Access administrator account on Windows 8". A user account
with admin privileges does not in fact have all admin rights. I found
this out when I wanted to run the chkdsk command.

Interesting. I will have to look at the details on that. W8 is sure
driving me nuts!
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On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 16:33:55 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:


Since Windows 8.1 can boot directly to the desktop and if windows 8.1 is
properly set up you will never need to see the metro


Windows 8.1 isn't necessary for that. You can do it with Windows 8, by
using one of the several excellent third-party programs (some are
free, but my favorite is the $4.99 US Start8).



(I believe that is
what it is called) interface again.


Back in its beta test days, it was called Metro. Today, it's called
Modern.

In ,
Keith Nuttle typed:
Since Windows 8.1 can boot directly to the desktop and if windows 8.1
is properly set up you will never need to see the metro (I believe
that is what it is called) interface again.

I am so puzzled why this is such a big deal? I didn't add or do any
special hacks to Windows 8.0 and I usually end it by going to standby or
hibernating. So when I hit the power button or wake it up, it pops up
right were I left it (with all of the applications I had opened before
and everything).

Ok the rare times I have to power down or reboot or something it goes to
the Start Screen. Okay one click on the desktop tile and your right back
to the desktop (or the desktop key if you have a special Windows 8
keyboard - I have a Logitech K400R keyboard). Now I really hate a lot
more extra mouse clicks, keyboard presses, etc. or anything normally.
But this is nothing really. Jump to the desktop at this point and you
still have to wait for the desktop to fully load anyway. So all of this
fuss is about one click and that is all? Gee, I don't complain until I
could save two or more extra steps.

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Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 SP2

On 01/07/2014 04:11 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Keith Nuttle typed:
Since Windows 8.1 can boot directly to the desktop and if windows 8.1
is properly set up you will never need to see the metro (I believe
that is what it is called) interface again.

I am so puzzled why this is such a big deal? I didn't add or do any
special hacks to Windows 8.0 and I usually end it by going to standby or
hibernating. So when I hit the power button or wake it up, it pops up
right were I left it (with all of the applications I had opened before
and everything).



snip


The real problem (I think) is that people learn to use their computers
by rote. Win7 kept the option to keep the "classic" GUI which has been
used since 1995. The move to "Metro" or "Modern" was just too much for
many people.


Somewhere around the year 2000 I built a Win98 machine for a friend of
mine who had been using computers in her office since 1982. I assumed
she'd have no problems.

A few days after I built the machine she called me almost screaming with
fear. She needed to put a document on a floppy and did not know what to do.

She said she could do it from her computer at work...but not from her
home computer.

Turns out that the floppy drive icon was in a slightly different place
and she was lost. Can you imagine this person using Win8 ?


Now multiply that times millions of people.

On 1/07/2014, Ant posted:
Search for "Access administrator account on Windows 8". A user
account with admin privileges does not in fact have all admin
rights. I found this out when I wanted to run the chkdsk command.

Interesting. I will have to look at the details on that. W8 is sure
driving me nuts!

Also W7, Vista, ... have or had that property.

There's good reason for that: it's called "security".

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On 1/7/2014 5:11 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Keith Nuttle typed:
Since Windows 8.1 can boot directly to the desktop and if windows 8.1
is properly set up you will never need to see the metro (I believe
that is what it is called) interface again.

I am so puzzled why this is such a big deal? I didn't add or do any
special hacks to Windows 8.0 and I usually end it by going to standby or
hibernating. So when I hit the power button or wake it up, it pops up
right were I left it (with all of the applications I had opened before
and everything).

Ok the rare times I have to power down or reboot or something it goes to
the Start Screen. Okay one click on the desktop tile and your right back
to the desktop (or the desktop key if you have a special Windows 8
keyboard - I have a Logitech K400R keyboard). Now I really hate a lot
more extra mouse clicks, keyboard presses, etc. or anything normally.
But this is nothing really. Jump to the desktop at this point and you
still have to wait for the desktop to fully load anyway. So all of this
fuss is about one click and that is all? Gee, I don't complain until I
could save two or more extra steps.



You missed the point I made that I never see the Modern interface and do
everything from the desktop, Every program I use is used on the desktop.

I always shut the computer down, rarely use the hibernate functions,
though it is nice when your are waiting in a doctor's office

On 1/7/2014 5:22 PM, philo wrote:
On 01/07/2014 04:11 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Keith Nuttle typed:
Since Windows 8.1 can boot directly to the desktop and if windows 8.1
is properly set up you will never need to see the metro (I believe
that is what it is called) interface again.

I am so puzzled why this is such a big deal? I didn't add or do any
special hacks to Windows 8.0 and I usually end it by going to standby or
hibernating. So when I hit the power button or wake it up, it pops up
right were I left it (with all of the applications I had opened before
and everything).



snip


The real problem (I think) is that people learn to use their computers
by rote. Win7 kept the option to keep the "classic" GUI which has been
used since 1995. The move to "Metro" or "Modern" was just too much for
many people.


Somewhere around the year 2000 I built a Win98 machine for a friend of
mine who had been using computers in her office since 1982. I assumed
she'd have no problems.

A few days after I built the machine she called me almost screaming with
fear. She needed to put a document on a floppy and did not know what to do.

She said she could do it from her computer at work...but not from her
home computer.

Turns out that the floppy drive icon was in a slightly different place
and she was lost. Can you imagine this person using Win8 ?


Now multiply that times millions of people.


AS I UNDERSTAND with the Modern interface, you can not have more than
two windows open at the same time.

I frequently have 6 to 10 windows open at a time in the Desktop. My
windows may be a couple of browser windows, a Spreadsheet, word
processors. a several Pdf files, a couple of image files, etc.

And as I do my research project I am currently bringing up several so I
can compare the data, or copy it into the word processor, or spreadsheet.

On 01/07/2014 04:52 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:

A few days after I built the machine she called me almost screaming with
fear. She needed to put a document on a floppy and did not know what
to do.

She said she could do it from her computer at work...but not from her
home computer.

Turns out that the floppy drive icon was in a slightly different place
and she was lost. Can you imagine this person using Win8 ?


Now multiply that times millions of people.


AS I UNDERSTAND with the Modern interface, you can not have more than
two windows open at the same time.

I frequently have 6 to 10 windows open at a time in the Desktop. My
windows may be a couple of browser windows, a Spreadsheet, word
processors. a several Pdf files, a couple of image files, etc.

And as I do my research project I am currently bringing up several so I
can compare the data, or copy it into the word processor, or spreadsheet.


I really think that with Win8...
if it is installed on any machine with a touch screen, it should default
to "Modern".

But with any non-touch screen...it should default to the same GUI as Win7


Once there, an easy option should be available for the user to switch to
the other interface.

I have a lot of friends who bought new machines within the last year and
none of them like Win8 as it ships.