Deleting files from an empty recycle bin

I've emptied my recycle bin or so says Windows. I dual boot with Linux
and in Linux I have full ability to read (and edit) that folder
C:\$Recycle.bin. I noticed the other day I had two folders, one is
virtually empty and the other has some 3,000+ items in it of 130MB+.

Since I can delete it via Linux, is it safe? Will I screw up Windows?
I had a previous installation years ago that the recycle bin got either
deleted or messed with and it took a very long time to find a fix, that
or I had to reload.

I know (or think) that if you delete items from a usb drive for example
that they go in there (or was told that). And thus I try to remember to
empty the bin if I'm sure I don't want the stuff before removing the
drive. I have about 2 dozen drives so plugging each in to see if it's
any of those is impractical.

Thanks.

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 08:26:30 -0400, Big Al wrote:

I've emptied my recycle bin or so says Windows. I dual boot with Linux
and in Linux I have full ability to read (and edit) that folder
C:\$Recycle.bin. I noticed the other day I had two folders, one is
virtually empty and the other has some 3,000+ items in it of 130MB+.

Since I can delete it via Linux, is it safe? Will I screw up Windows?

On multiple occasions, I've used Treesize Free (in Admin mode) to
rummage around in the bowels of $Recycle.bin and System Volume
Information. I've never deleted anything from SVI, but quite a few times
I've deleted stuff from $Recycle.bin that seems to be 'stuck' there. So
far, I've never had a problem with it.

I'm not saying go full steam ahead, but now you have one additional data
point.

On 11/03/2017 07:26 AM, Big Al wrote:
I've emptied my recycle bin or so says Windows.Â* I dual boot with Linux
and in Linux I have full ability to read (and edit) that folder
C:\$Recycle.bin.Â*Â* I noticed the other day I had two folders, one is
virtually empty and the other has some 3,000+ items in it of 130MB+.

Since I can delete it via Linux, is it safe?Â*Â* Will I screw up Windows?
I had a previous installation years ago that the recycle bin got either
deleted or messed with and it took a very long time to find a fix, that
or I had to reload.

I know (or think) that if you delete items from a usb drive for example
that they go in there (or was told that).Â* And thus I try to remember to
empty the bin if I'm sure I don't want the stuff before removing the
drive.Â*Â* I have about 2 dozen drives so plugging each in to see if it's
any of those is impractical.

Thanks.



I'm also using Linux and dual booting with Win10


I cannot even view the recycled folder when I boot to Windows even if I
have "hidden" enabled.


When I am running Linux I can see the folder and sub folders and see
there is even stuff left over from win7 (prior to the Win10 upgrade)

Decided to delete all but the most recent subfolder.

In previous versions of Windows one had the option to view hidden files
and a separate option to view system files.

I did not see the second option in Win10 and wonder if the recycle bin
is considered a system folder

philo wrote:


I'm also using Linux and dual booting with Win10


I cannot even view the recycled folder when I boot to Windows even if I
have "hidden" enabled.


Because it's the option View Options View Hide protected operating
systems files.

Caveat you will be able to see the hidden folders but will not be able
to access them. Permission restrictions.


When I am running Linux I can see the folder and sub folders and see
there is even stuff left over from win7 (prior to the Win10 upgrade)

Decided to delete all but the most recent subfolder.

In previous versions of Windows one had the option to view hidden files
and a separate option to view system files.

I did not see the second option in Win10 and wonder if the recycle bin
is considered a system folder

Option still there. Just now access restrictions with permissions, UAC I
assume.

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Take care,

Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 11/03/2017 12:14 PM, philo wrote:
On 11/03/2017 07:26 AM, Big Al wrote:
I've emptied my recycle bin or so says Windows.Â* I dual boot with
Linux and in Linux I have full ability to read (and edit) that folder
C:\$Recycle.bin.Â*Â* I noticed the other day I had two folders, one is
virtually empty and the other has some 3,000+ items in it of 130MB+.

Since I can delete it via Linux, is it safe?Â*Â* Will I screw up Windows?
I had a previous installation years ago that the recycle bin got
either deleted or messed with and it took a very long time to find a
fix, that or I had to reload.

I know (or think) that if you delete items from a usb drive for
example that they go in there (or was told that).Â* And thus I try to
remember to empty the bin if I'm sure I don't want the stuff before
removing the drive.Â*Â* I have about 2 dozen drives so plugging each in
to see if it's any of those is impractical.

Thanks.



I'm also using Linux and dual booting with Win10


I cannot even view the recycled folder when I boot to Windows even if I
have "hidden" enabled.


When I am running Linux I can see the folder and sub folders and see
there is even stuff left over from win7 (prior to the Win10 upgrade)

Decided to delete all but the most recent subfolder.

In previous versions of Windows one had the option to view hidden files
and a separate option to view system files.

I did not see the second option in Win10 and wonder if the recycle bin
is considered a system folder

Any ill effects of your delete?

Big Al wrote:

I've emptied my recycle bin or so says Windows. I dual boot with Linux
and in Linux I have full ability to read (and edit) that folder
C:\$Recycle.bin. I noticed the other day I had two folders, one is
virtually empty and the other has some 3,000+ items in it of 130MB+.

Since I can delete it via Linux, is it safe? Will I screw up Windows?
I had a previous installation years ago that the recycle bin got either
deleted or messed with and it took a very long time to find a fix, that
or I had to reload.

I know (or think) that if you delete items from a usb drive for example
that they go in there (or was told that). And thus I try to remember to
empty the bin if I'm sure I don't want the stuff before removing the
drive. I have about 2 dozen drives so plugging each in to see if it's
any of those is impractical.

Thanks.

Assuming you want to keep using the Recycle Bin (instead of turning it
off as a safety net), delete the Recycle Bin folder and reboot to have
Windows create a new one. See:

https://www.easeus.com/recover-delet...lost-data.html

On 11/03/2017 12:00 PM, Big Al wrote:
On 11/03/2017 12:14 PM, philo wrote:
On 11/03/2017 07:26 AM, Big Al wrote:
I've emptied my recycle bin or so says Windows.Â* I dual boot with
Linux and in Linux I have full ability to read (and edit) that folder
C:\$Recycle.bin.Â*Â* I noticed the other day I had two folders, one is
virtually empty and the other has some 3,000+ items in it of 130MB+.

Since I can delete it via Linux, is it safe?Â*Â* Will I screw up Windows?
I had a previous installation years ago that the recycle bin got
either deleted or messed with and it took a very long time to find a
fix, that or I had to reload.

I know (or think) that if you delete items from a usb drive for
example that they go in there (or was told that).Â* And thus I try to
remember to empty the bin if I'm sure I don't want the stuff before
removing the drive.Â*Â* I have about 2 dozen drives so plugging each in
to see if it's any of those is impractical.

Thanks.



I'm also using Linux and dual booting with Win10


I cannot even view the recycled folder when I boot to Windows even if
I have "hidden" enabled.


When I am running Linux I can see the folder and sub folders and see
there is even stuff left over from win7 (prior to the Win10 upgrade)

Decided to delete all but the most recent subfolder.

In previous versions of Windows one had the option to view hidden
files and a separate option to view system files.

I did not see the second option in Win10 and wonder if the recycle bin
is considered a system folder

Any ill effects of your delete?



No problems caused

On 11/03/2017 11:48 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
philo wrote:


I'm also using Linux and dual booting with Win10


I cannot even view the recycled folder when I boot to Windows even if I
have "hidden" enabled.


Because it's the option View Options View Hide protected operating
systems files.


I have that option in previous version of Windows but did not see it in
Win10. Will look again though

Caveat you will be able to see the hidden folders but will not be able
to access them. Permission restrictions.


When I am running Linux I can see the folder and sub folders and see
there is even stuff left over from win7 (prior to the Win10 upgrade)

Decided to delete all but the most recent subfolder.

In previous versions of Windows one had the option to view hidden files
and a separate option to view system files.

I did not see the second option in Win10 and wonder if the recycle bin
is considered a system folder

Option still there. Just now access restrictions with permissions, UAC I
assume.

On 11/3/2017 4:12 PM, philo wrote:
On 11/03/2017 11:48 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
philo wrote:


I'm also using Linux and dual booting with Win10


I cannot even view the recycled folder when I boot to Windows even if I
have "hidden" enabled.


Because it's the option View Options View Hide protected
operating systems files.


I have that option in previous version of Windows but did not see it in
Win10. Will look again though

Caveat you will be able to see the hidden folders but will not be able
to access them. Permission restrictions.


When I am running Linux I can see the folder and sub folders and see
there is even stuff left over from win7 (prior to the Win10 upgrade)

Decided to delete all but the most recent subfolder.




OK, found it. Windows does not show the subfolders visible in Linux

No big deal to me I don't really care

On 11/3/2017 5:12 PM, philo wrote:

Because it's the option View Options View Hide protected
operating systems files.


I have that option in previous version of Windows but did not see it in
Win10. Will look again though
This option is in Windows 10. It is in Control Panel, Appearance and
Personalization, File Explorer, Show Hidden Files and Folder.

Alternately click the MSicon and type in Folder Properties.

--
2017: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre

On 11/03/2017 04:29 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 11/3/2017 5:12 PM, philo wrote:

Because it's the option View Options View Hide protected
operating systems files.


I have that option in previous version of Windows but did not see it
in Win10. Will look again though
This option is in Windows 10.Â* It is in Control Panel, Appearance and
Personalization, File Explorer, Show Hidden Files and Folder.

Alternately click the MSicon and type in Folder Properties.




Still getting used to Win10 but figured it out eventually

On 11/3/2017 5:29 PM, philo wrote:
On 11/03/2017 04:29 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 11/3/2017 5:12 PM, philo wrote:

Because it's the option View Options View Hide protected
operating systems files.


I have that option in previous version of Windows but did not see it
in Win10. Will look again though
This option is in Windows 10.Â* It is in Control Panel, Appearance and
Personalization, File Explorer, Show Hidden Files and Folder.

Alternately click the MSicon and type in Folder Properties.




Still getting used to Win10 but figured it out eventually
Personally, I think the 80% of the problems with Windows 10 are caused
by people trying to use like, or make it into Window XP or 7.

Early on I decided to use the new interface and now find it easier to
use, once you accept it and get use to its idiosyncrasies.

This is the same process that it took to get use to the XP and 7
interface. The difference is we forget all of the Magic words that it
took to learn those versions.

--
2017: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre

On 11/03/2017 05:37 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Early on I decided to use the new interface and now find it easier to
use,Â*onceÂ*youÂ*acceptÂ*itÂ*andÂ*getÂ*useÂ*toÂ*it sÂ*idiosyncrasies.

Ditto. Rather than pin shortcuts to the desktop I pin most of them to
that start menu and it cleans my desktop. I just had to purge most of
what was there on day one.

On 11/3/2017 9:28 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 08:26:30 -0400, Big Al wrote:

I've emptied my recycle bin or so says Windows. I dual boot with Linux
and in Linux I have full ability to read (and edit) that folder
C:\$Recycle.bin. I noticed the other day I had two folders, one is
virtually empty and the other has some 3,000+ items in it of 130MB+.

Since I can delete it via Linux, is it safe? Will I screw up Windows?

On multiple occasions, I've used Treesize Free (in Admin mode) to
rummage around in the bowels of $Recycle.bin and System Volume
Information. I've never deleted anything from SVI, but quite a few times
I've deleted stuff from $Recycle.bin that seems to be 'stuck' there. So
far, I've never had a problem with it.

I'm not saying go full steam ahead, but now you have one additional data
point.


Is it maybe for the event of a restore to an earlier date ?

If you want to avoid having the eventual and ongoing task of cleaning out the
Recycle Bin, why not just use 'Shift+Delete' to permanatley delete *unwanted*
files?

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Garry

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