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How I solved this...
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:39:06 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)"
wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:46:08 +0000, Greg Hennessy On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:17:53 -0000, "Jason Edwards" But what they don't offer, as far as I'm aware, is a replacement XP install CD for those people who want to reinstall XP. For anyone who owns a cd burner and the original media, creating a new slipstreamed sp2 install cd is trivial. Not as trivial as it should be. If an SP breaks the installation CD, as SP2 does, 'breaks the installation CD' in what manner ? Bearing in mind that that I have a hand crafted slipstreamed SP2 CD in my hand that works perfectly. If it's so trivial, perhaps you can explain exctly how to make a slipstreamed OS CDR in your reply? Or is it non-trivial enough that you'd rather point to a URL rather than type it out? Oh do dry up you posturing trout. greg -- Yeah - straight from the top of my dome As I rock, rock, rock, rock, rock the microphone |
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cquirke (MVP Win9x) wrote:
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:46:08 +0000, Greg Hennessy On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:17:53 -0000, "Jason Edwards" But what they don't offer, as far as I'm aware, is a replacement XP install CD for those people who want to reinstall XP. For anyone who owns a cd burner and the original media, creating a new slipstreamed sp2 install cd is trivial. Not as trivial as it should be. If an SP breaks the installation CD, as SP2 does, it should include a skippable step in the installation process to create that slipstreamed replacement CDR. If it's so trivial, perhaps you can explain exctly how to make a slipstreamed OS CDR in your reply? Or is it non-trivial enough that you'd rather point to a URL rather than type it out? Google is your friend http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=slipstream+SP2+XP&btnG=Goo gle+Search of course with any info from the internet you'll need to choose a source you trust and that you can understand. John |
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Greg Hennessy wrote: On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:39:06 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)" wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:46:08 +0000, Greg Hennessy On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:17:53 -0000, "Jason Edwards" But what they don't offer, as far as I'm aware, is a replacement XP install CD for those people who want to reinstall XP. For anyone who owns a cd burner and the original media, creating a new slipstreamed sp2 install cd is trivial. Not as trivial as it should be. If an SP breaks the installation CD, as SP2 does, 'breaks the installation CD' in what manner ? ISO 9660 specifies a maximum path depth of 8, slipstreamed SP2 is 9 directories deep. Bearing in mind that that I have a hand crafted slipstreamed SP2 CD in my hand that works perfectly. Made with burning software that ignores the standard, either by default or at the user's request. If it's so trivial, perhaps you can explain exctly how to make a slipstreamed OS CDR in your reply? Or is it non-trivial enough that you'd rather point to a URL rather than type it out? http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstreamed_xpsp2_cd.htm Oh do dry up you posturing trout. greg |
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 11:35:41 -0500, Triffid wrote:
Not as trivial as it should be. If an SP breaks the installation CD, as SP2 does, 'breaks the installation CD' in what manner ? ISO 9660 specifies a maximum path depth of 8, slipstreamed SP2 is 9 directories deep. That would be I386\ASMS\52\policy\msft\windows\networking\dxmrtp So ? it works, it installs. Therefore it doesnt *break* the installation CD. Bearing in mind that that I have a hand crafted slipstreamed SP2 CD in my hand that works perfectly. Made with burning software that ignores the standard, Again big deal, Nero did what it was supposed to do. I dont hear anyone bitching about overburning and standards compliance with iso9660/orange book. either by default or at the user's request. It works, it can be read, booted and installed successfully. And for the truly clueless the likes of autostreamer turns an easy task into a no brainer. greg -- Yeah - straight from the top of my dome As I rock, rock, rock, rock, rock the microphone |
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This is really strange...
Reinstall again.... WITHOUT your network cable plugged in.
I have seen more than once, XP machines getting whacked by malicious code before the install was complete. Download SP2 before you install and burn it to a cd.. Install it BEFORE you go online, along with your AV software. Alternatively, pick up a consumer grade hardware firewall... even an el-cheapo netgear/linksys router with packet filtering will do the trick and give you some protection during the install & patching process. G'luck -- Hey.. I almost got thru an entire reply without saying "install Linux" grin On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:56:32 +0100, "I.L.B." wrote: Thanks guys, but I just ran the scanners you told me with no results.... This is really strange: It keeps happening!. It happened just after re-install Windows XP, when trying to update it to SP1 and SP2.... that's when the outbound bursts began. I can turn off the network connection, I restart it again... then after a few seconds, the bursts of outgoing packets start... when running NETSTAT, I see first, an ESTABLISHED connection to "unknown.sagonet.net:6667" (to an IRC port!!!), then it comes the stream of outbound packets, from 3000 to 4000 ports and so on... with no end!!. In the meanwhile I have no access to web surf nor anything regular, just bursts of TCP packets flying away from my computer. And it happened just when I re-installed XP, so ain't got time to download any virus or worm or anything. If that sounds familiar to any of you, please help me. Thanks... "I.L.B." wrote in message ... Hi all ; I am just experiencing a strange kind of infection I don't know wether is a new worm or not, as I never seen it before. The situation is next: - I am running a computer with both Win98 and XP installed. - My Win98 session works OK - When I start an XP session, and I do activate my network connection... I start to see a very heavy traffic on the LEDs of my hub/router ADSL. The activity light is flickering like crazy... what happens?? - I check the Status of the connection, and I see dozens of outbound packets per second, and almost nothing incoming. Strange... - I run NETSTAT to see what it happens. I see a LOT of outbound TCP connections as "SYN_SENT" from a series of ports from 3400 to 3600 and so on... no way to stop it !. All of these netstat entries end at some strange IPs at EPMAP port. - I run TaskManager, and I see a lot of started process of "SVCHOST" and "IEEXPLORE" (about 5 or 6 instances of each one started). I just checked for Sasser, Welchia worms, but the tools said I don't have these worms on my computer... Any ideas? Thanks !! |
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 19:07:37 +0000, Greg Hennessy
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:39:06 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)" For anyone who owns a cd burner and the original media, creating a new slipstreamed sp2 install cd is trivial. Not as trivial as it should be. If an SP breaks the installation CD, as SP2 does, 'breaks the installation CD' in what manner ? Bearing in mind that that I have a hand crafted slipstreamed SP2 CD in my hand that works perfectly. Bearing in mind that other users do NOT have a working slipstreamed installation disk pop out of thier hand automatically. What thy do have - and ALL they have - is the pre-SP2 installation CD that will not do a repair install and may not run RC either. My challenge - which you ducked - stands: If it's so "trivial" to make your own slipstreamed installation CDR, then please do tell us how. ---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - "He's such a character!" ' Yeah - CHAR(0) ' ---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - |
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 00:47:31 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)"
wrote: Bearing in mind that that I have a hand crafted slipstreamed SP2 CD in my hand that works perfectly. Bearing in mind that other users do NOT have a working slipstreamed installation disk pop out of thier hand automatically. Aww bless, a descent into fallacy, Note what I originally said "For anyone who owns a CD burner and the original media, creating a new slipstreamed sp2 install CD is trivial. " We are not discussing 'other users'. We are clearly talking about users with a CD burner and the original media. The act of owning a CD burner usually implies a certain level of 'clue' w.r.t the creation of CDs from scratch. Said level of clue would also imply that they have the wherewithal to utilise www.google.com with the expression winxp sp2 slipstream Yielding a search URL of http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...sp2+slipstream where at least the 1st dozen or so links returned go into explicit detail of how to build a hand rolled SP2 installation CD using the original media and a CD burner. (which was the topic being discussed) Just for the record I shall give a Hat Tip to Paul Thorrott of www.winsupersite.com for a clearly documented and easy to follow method which I've utilised previously. Now I know that may be a little too advanced for an (MVP Win9x). What thy do have - and ALL they have - is the pre-SP2 installation CD that will not do a repair install and may not run RC either. Again you wilfully ignore what I wrote previously. "For anyone who owns a CD burner and the original media, creating a new slipstreamed sp2 install CD is trivial. " Note the part of the sentence before the comma. My challenge - which you ducked - stands: If it's so "trivial" to make your own slipstreamed installation CDR, then please do tell us how. I suggest you read what I wrote in Message-ID: In particular pay close attention to the last sentence. Please continue with this asinine attempt at a ****ing contest, its most amusing watching someone with a bladder the size of a walnut in action. greg -- Yeah - straight from the top of my dome As I rock, rock, rock, rock, rock the microphone |
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:31:18 +0000, Greg Hennessy
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 00:47:31 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)" Bearing in mind that that I have a hand crafted slipstreamed SP2 CD in my hand that works perfectly. Bearing in mind that other users do NOT have a working slipstreamed installation disk pop out of thier hand automatically. "For anyone who owns a CD burner and the original media, creating a new slipstreamed sp2 install CD is trivial. " We are not discussing 'other users'. We are clearly talking about users with a CD burner and the original media. OK so far. The act of owning a CD burner usually implies a certain level of 'clue' False. Most new PCs ship with CD writers, and most users end up using XP's awful built-in CD writing "support". In 1995 or so, when CD writers were slow, costly, and prone to kicking coasters, you'd be right. But they are standard equipment today. http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...sp2+slipstream where at least the 1st dozen or so links returned go into explicit detail of how to build a hand rolled SP2 installation CD using the original media and a CD burner. (which was the topic being discussed) Just for the record I shall give a Hat Tip to Paul Thorrott of www.winsupersite.com for a clearly documented and easy to follow method which I've utilised previously. Again you wilfully ignore what I wrote previously. No, I'm focusing on your asinine claim that it is "trivial" to generate a slipstreamed OS CD. I see it's not so trivial that you can explain exactly how to do it here, without pointing to web pages ar mumbling about Google. The reason being that what you have to know to do this, is not trivial enough to write up in one paragraph. "For anyone who owns a CD burner and the original media, creating a new slipstreamed sp2 install CD is trivial. " Note the part of the sentence before the comma. I do. You're still wrong :-) --------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk? --------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - |
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:23:19 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)"
wrote: The act of owning a CD burner usually implies a certain level of 'clue' False. Most new PCs ship with CD writers, Another false premise. Most new PCs do *not* ship with CD writers. There is no corporate I know of who would accept desktop PCs from Dell, HPAQ or anyone else with CDRW as standard. [equivocating nonsense binned unread] -- Yeah - straight from the top of my dome As I rock, rock, rock, rock, rock the microphone |
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"Greg Hennessy" wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:23:19 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)" wrote: The act of owning a CD burner usually implies a certain level of 'clue' False. Most new PCs ship with CD writers, Another false premise. Most new PCs do *not* ship with CD writers. There is no corporate I know of who would accept desktop PCs from Dell, HPAQ or anyone else with CDRW as standard. That's funny. I work for a corporate which has recently renewed all its PCs (several thousand seats). All come with CD writers. |
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"Ant" wrote:
"Greg Hennessy" wrote: On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:23:19 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)" wrote: The act of owning a CD burner usually implies a certain level of 'clue' False. Most new PCs ship with CD writers, Another false premise. Most new PCs do *not* ship with CD writers. There is no corporate I know of who would accept desktop PCs from Dell, HPAQ or anyone else with CDRW as standard. That's funny. I work for a corporate which has recently renewed all its PCs (several thousand seats). All come with CD writers. I suppose you don't work for a bank! ;-) |
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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:13:04 +0200, Zvi Netiv
wrote: That's funny. I work for a corporate which has recently renewed all its PCs (several thousand seats). All come with CD writers. I suppose you don't work for a bank! ;-) Or any company with a with properly run procurement dept. -- Yeah - straight from the top of my dome As I rock, rock, rock, rock, rock the microphone |
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How I solved this...
"Greg Hennessy" wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:13:04 +0200, Zvi Netiv wrote: That's funny. I work for a corporate which has recently renewed all its PCs (several thousand seats). All come with CD writers. I suppose you don't work for a bank! ;-) Scientific R&D. Or any company with a with properly run procurement dept. What do you mean by that? Most of us require CDRW; it's the modern equivalent of a floppy disk. |
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How I solved this...
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:02:06 -0000, "Ant" wrote:
Or any company with a with properly run procurement dept. What do you mean by that? A CDRW is 3+ times the price of a plain CD/DVD player if not more. Now multiply that by a new desktop rollout across a large organisation.... Most of us require CDRW; it's the modern equivalent of a floppy disk. 'Most of us' (i.e average desktop PC users in a corporate environment) have zero requirement for a floppy disk, cdrw or USB flash memory. 'Most of us' have absolutely no business transferring files in that manner when properly screened and managed alternatives are there to be used. They are all security hazards and eminently preventable, be it through removal or application of policy. greg -- Yeah - straight from the top of my dome As I rock, rock, rock, rock, rock the microphone |
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How I solved this...
"Greg Hennessy" wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:02:06 -0000, "Ant" wrote: Or any company with a with properly run procurement dept. What do you mean by that? A CDRW is 3+ times the price of a plain CD/DVD player if not more. Now multiply that by a new desktop rollout across a large organisation.... We got a good deal because of the large number of units. Most of us require CDRW; it's the modern equivalent of a floppy disk. 'Most of us' (i.e average desktop PC users in a corporate environment) have zero requirement for a floppy disk, cdrw or USB flash memory. Most of *us* are not average users. Most are scientists, engineers, and computing experts. Most of us need to be able to produce documents, presentations, software, etc. for demonstration, or distribution to customers and others in our field(s). I did say we are a scientific research & development company. We don't have a single product, but have many specialists producing diverse solutions to various problems for a variety of customers. 'Most of us' have absolutely no business transferring files in that manner when properly screened and managed alternatives are there to be used. Most of us do, most of us have clue, and all of us are trusted to follow the security procedures, about which we are reminded frequently. There are penalties for not doing so. They are all security hazards and eminently preventable, be it through removal or application of policy. Of course there's a risk, but this is one we have to manage. |
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