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Old June 4th 08, 06:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
NEED XP
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Default Using XP as a dual boot along with Vista

Hello every one, I just recently purchased an Acer Aspire M100 desktop
which has Vista home premium. My question is, does any one know if XP can be
installed as a dual boot on this pc, and if it's possible what type of driver
issues can occur? I'm asking these questions on this forum because the Acer
"help" center didn't give me any definent answers. Any help, or info will be
greatly appreciated thanks.
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Old June 4th 08, 07:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Hula Baloo[_2_]
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Default Using XP as a dual boot along with Vista

NEED XP wrote:
Hello every one, I just recently purchased an Acer Aspire M100 desktop
which has Vista home premium. My question is, does any one know if XP can be
installed as a dual boot on this pc, and if it's possible what type of driver
issues can occur? I'm asking these questions on this forum because the Acer
"help" center didn't give me any definent answers. Any help, or info will be
greatly appreciated thanks.

I forsee two problems:
1) Drivers
2) Boot setup.
For the drivers, go to "Computer", right-click, then click
"Properties", then click Device Manager. Expand the plus signs next to
each device and make sure that you have XP drivers for all these. XP
being a 7 year old OS is not likely to have built in drivers for newer
machines. If you can't find drivers, you'll end up having to do without
these devices when you run XP. This could be a minor inconvenience or a
show stopper depending.
Usually when setting up a dual boot system you install the most
current OS last since in this case Vista knows about XP, but XP doesn't
know about Vista. My guess is that you could boot from your Vista
install DVD (assuming you got one) and run the Recovery Console's
BOOTCFG application to make the boot setup work, but I have to emphasize
that this is a pure GUESS because I haven't done this myself. I have
used the XP Recovery Console's BOOTCFG successfully, but I know Vista
uses a new and different boot setup.
Whatever you do, if you proceed with the dual boot idea, I strongly
recommend that you make a complete image of your C: drive using
something like Norton Ghost or Acronis software to an external hard
drive prior to doing it. That way if it breaks, you have everything to
put it back to working order. Oh yes, I assume you know that each OS
has to go in a separate partition and how to accomplish that.
It sounds like you've got your work cut out for you. Good luck!
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Old June 4th 08, 07:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Using XP as a dual boot along with Vista

Hello,

Yes it can be done. However, Windows XP needs to be installed first,
then Windows Vista needs to be installed last.

The ideal way, is the following:

Use a Second Hard Drive to hold a Drive/Partition Image of Windows
Vista, currently installed, using a program like Acronis True Image 11 Home.

Next you will need Windows XP Home Edition or another version of XP for
installing XP. You will need an earlier version of Windows, if going to use
an Upgrade CD.

Ideally, I would create a very small partition for booting up the
computer that would contain the necessary files for XP and Vista.

Then I would install Windows XP onto the D: partition.

Next you will need a Windows Vista Home Premium Upgrade CD, SP1 in order
to pick where to install Vista at. You will need to complete the
installation, but no need to reactivate Vista, because you would be
restoring the existing image to that partition.

This would be the ideal solution. The 2nd Hard Drive can be an USB
External Hard Drive.


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"NEED XP" NEED wrote in message
...
Hello every one, I just recently purchased an Acer Aspire M100 desktop
which has Vista home premium. My question is, does any one know if XP can
be
installed as a dual boot on this pc, and if it's possible what type of
driver
issues can occur? I'm asking these questions on this forum because the
Acer
"help" center didn't give me any definent answers. Any help, or info will
be
greatly appreciated thanks.



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Old June 4th 08, 07:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
John John (MVP)
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Default Using XP as a dual boot along with Vista

I don't know about the driver issue, you will have to find out for
yourself if drivers for Windows XP are available. Did you try the Acer
support website to see what was available?

As for installing XP the best way to do this would be to stick a second
hard disk in the machine then install XP on it. While you install XP
you should disable the Vista hard disk, this will avoid potential errors
during the XP installation and it will ensure that your Vista
installation remains undamaged and available if the XP experiment fails.
You can disable the Vista disk in the BIOS or by temporarily pulling
the power connector to the disk. After Windows XP is successfully
installed you can connect or enable the Vista disk again and boot to
Vista, from the up and running Vista installation you can easily add XP
to the boot menu with the use of VistaBootPro.

If you don't want to use two hard disk then, unless the hard disk
already has an available free partition, you will have to resize the
current Vista partition and create a new one for XP, that can be a
pretty messy operation for the uninitiated. After you create the new
partition and install XP you will have to go into the Vista Recovery
Environment and use the /FixBoot command to repair the boot sector. You
should carefully consider the potential problems posed by this method,
the two hard disk method is much easier and safer to try.

John

NEED XP wrote:

Hello every one, I just recently purchased an Acer Aspire M100 desktop
which has Vista home premium. My question is, does any one know if XP can be
installed as a dual boot on this pc, and if it's possible what type of driver
issues can occur? I'm asking these questions on this forum because the Acer
"help" center didn't give me any definent answers. Any help, or info will be
greatly appreciated thanks.


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Old June 4th 08, 08:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Using XP as a dual boot along with Vista

There are some major issues to overcome in order to dual boot with Vista and
WinXP.

They a
1) Obtaining WinXP System drivers for your system.
2) Finding a Dual boot setup procedure.
3) Loss of System Restore points in Vista when WinXP is installed.

For item 1, you'll need to do some research to see if this desktop is a good
candidate for WinXP. Whether trying a dual boot configuration or a clean install
of WinXP, you'll need to have all drivers, which may include SATA drivers, if
required. In many cases of newer systems, the hardware devices were developed
for Vista only and there are no WinXP device drivers available. During the early
transition period, some systems were sold with WinXP installed and the mfg
offered an upgrade to Vista when it was released. This type will/should have
WinXP drivers available.

For item 2, see the procedure in the following link.

How to dual boot Vista and XP (with Vista installed first)
http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

Note, you will need a Vista installation DVD or a rescue CD in order to repair
the Vista bootloader and then complete the dual boot section with the EasyBCD
utility.

For item 3, see this article for detailed info including some workarounds:

No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows Server
2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier Windows operating
system
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185

Good luck!

"NEED XP" NEED wrote in message
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Hello every one, I just recently purchased an Acer Aspire M100 desktop
which has Vista home premium. My question is, does any one know if XP can be
installed as a dual boot on this pc, and if it's possible what type of driver
issues can occur? I'm asking these questions on this forum because the Acer
"help" center didn't give me any definent answers. Any help, or info will be
greatly appreciated thanks.



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Old June 5th 08, 02:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Bruce Chambers
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Default Using XP as a dual boot along with Vista

NEED XP wrote:
Hello every one, I just recently purchased an Acer Aspire M100 desktop
which has Vista home premium. My question is, does any one know if XP can be
installed as a dual boot on this pc, and if it's possible what type of driver
issues can occur? I'm asking these questions on this forum because the Acer
"help" center didn't give me any definent answers. Any help, or info will be
greatly appreciated thanks.



Oh, yes, it's certainly possible.

Normally, the older OS must be installed first unless you wish to
acquire and use some 3rd-party partition and boot management utility.
(In which case you have to follow the instructions provided by whatever
3rd party solution you select.) However, this KB Article (not for the
faint of heart or technically-challenged) explains how to repair the
Vista boot process after installing WinXP:

Windows Vista no longer starts after you install an earlier version of
the Windows operating system in a dual-boot configuration
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529

MS-MVP John Barnett's Guide is considerably more user-friendly:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install...ning_vista.htm


Before proceeding:

First and foremost, if the specific computer model in question was
designed specifically for Vista, there may well be no WinXP-specific
device drivers available to make the computer's diverse components work
properly. If this proves to be the case , installing WinXP in a virtual
machine would be your best option, anyway. Consult the computer's
manufacturer about the availability of device drivers. Secondly, adding
another OS might void any support agreements and, sometimes, even the
warranty. Again, consult the computer's manufacturer for specifics.

Dual-booting is no longer necessary in a great many situations. Why
not download a Virtual Machine application, such as Microsoft's
VirtualPC 2007 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp?) or
Innotek's VirtualBox (http://www.virtualbox.org/) and run Win2K and your
legacy applications within a virtual computer. Both are free and work
with Vista.

NOTE: Microsoft does not support the use of VirtualPC 2007 on Vista
Home editions, but several people have reported that it works. Your
results may vary.



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