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Old July 15th 20, 01:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
philo
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Recently a friend of mind gave me her non-repairable laptop.

She needed another machine ....not necessarily needed a laptop but of
course her data was what was important.


I simply put the drive from her laptop into a spare machine I had and
Windows reconfigured and worked fine. I was even activated!


She was really happy to get her old desktop back just a few hours later.


Of all versions of Windows, I don't think I've ever seen an OS
reconfigure so well.
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Old July 15th 20, 02:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Wolffan[_3_]
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On 15 Jul 2020, philo wrote
(in article ):

Recently a friend of mind gave me her non-repairable laptop.

She needed another machine ....not necessarily needed a laptop but of
course her data was what was important.

I simply put the drive from her laptop into a spare machine I had and
Windows reconfigured and worked fine. I was even activated!

She was really happy to get her old desktop back just a few hours later.

Of all versions of Windows, I don't think I've ever seen an OS
reconfigure so well.


you _do_ know that doing that kind of thing is absolutely trivial for most
non-Microsoft OSes, and was trivial even for Microsoft before they started
putting road-blocks in the way about two decades ago, don’t you?

Want to move OS, apps, data, settings from old Mac to new Mac? No prob.

1 Target Disk mode, if supported, some versions of the OS don’t support it.
Plug the two Macs into each other using USB, FireWire, Thunderbird, or
Ethernet; if speed in not required, use wireless, just be prepared to wait.
Use Apple’s built-in software or third-party software such as Carbon Copy
Cloner or SuperDuper! to copy the files across. In a few hours you now have a
bootable, identical, system on both.

2 physically move the HDD. Open the first Mac (can be a pain on some) and
pull the HDD. Open the second Mac, pull the HDD, replace with the first HDD.
Close up Mac. Boot. As long as the second Mac supports the OS on the first,
it will boot immediately. ‘Activation’ is not required. There might be a
problem with this on machines where Apple has soldered or glued down a SSD
instead of having a HDD.

3 clone first Mac to external hard drive. Connect external hard drive to
second Mac. Set startup disk to be external hard drive. Reboot. This, and
Target Disk Mode, work even if the internal storage on the new Mac is glued
down. I really wish that Apple would stop soldering/gluing their SSDs down, I
really do. If they just used M2 SSDs moving SSDs would be trivial, but noooo,
Apple has to Think Different(™). Damn foolishness.

4 clone first Mac to USB thumb drive (you’ll usually need a big thumb drive
for all apps and data; drives as small as 4-8 GB will work for just the OS)
and plug the thumb drive in, set startup, boot.

Similar methods can be used with various Linux and BSD OSes. (Note: you may
have m,ore problems with some varieties. Not nearly as much as with Windows,.
though.)

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Old July 15th 20, 03:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer
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Old July 15th 20, 04:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why I like Win10

In article s.com,
Wolffan wrote:

On 15 Jul 2020, philo wrote
(in article ):
Recently a friend of mind gave me her non-repairable laptop.

She needed another machine ....not necessarily needed a laptop but of
course her data was what was important.

I simply put the drive from her laptop into a spare machine I had and
Windows reconfigured and worked fine. I was even activated!

She was really happy to get her old desktop back just a few hours later.

Of all versions of Windows, I don't think I've ever seen an OS
reconfigure so well.


you _do_ know that doing that kind of thing is absolutely trivial for most
non-Microsoft OSes, and was trivial even for Microsoft before they started
putting road-blocks in the way about two decades ago, dont you?


doubtful

Want to move OS, apps, data, settings from old Mac to new Mac? No prob.


0. use migration assistant. on first boot, during initial setup, it
asks if you want to migrate from an older mac or a backup drive . say
yes, follow the prompts to connect the two, choose what to migrate
(everything is usually the best choice) and let it do its thing.

migration even works from a windows pc, with some limitations. user
data will be copied and email and browser bookmarks will be imported
into the mac versions (the user can also import it to other apps). apps
obviously won't be copied since they won't work, however, if there's a
mac version from the same company, such as microsoft office, it will
install that.

1 Target Disk mode, if supported, some versions of the OS dont support it.


target disk mode is hardware.

the os has nothing to do with it.

Plug the two Macs into each other using USB, FireWire, Thunderbird, or


usb-c, firewire or thunderbolt.

usb-a cannot support target disk mode.

Ethernet; if speed in not required, use wireless, just be prepared to wait.


that's for migration, not target disk mode, and it's best not to
migrate over the network, especially wifi.

the reason migrating over the network is so much slower is because both
old and new computers are running a migration app, greatly adding to
the latency, versus a directly attached drive (target disk mode or an
external drive).

Use Apples built-in software or third-party software such as Carbon Copy
Cloner or SuperDuper! to copy the files across. In a few hours you now have a
bootable, identical, system on both.


that will work, although migration is usually the better choice.

2 physically move the HDD. Open the first Mac (can be a pain on some) and
pull the HDD. Open the second Mac, pull the HDD, replace with the first HDD.
Close up Mac. Boot. As long as the second Mac supports the OS on the first,
it will boot immediately. Activation is not required. There might be a
problem with this on machines where Apple has soldered or glued down a SSD
instead of having a HDD.


swapping hard drives works, although it's preferable to migrate.

3 clone first Mac to external hard drive. Connect external hard drive to
second Mac. Set startup disk to be external hard drive. Reboot.


or hold down the option/alt key and choose which drive to boot from.

this is *extremely* useful for backups. if the internal drive fails,
boot off the external backup drive.

This, and
Target Disk Mode, work even if the internal storage on the new Mac is glued
down. I really wish that Apple would stop soldering/gluing their SSDs down, I
really do. If they just used M2 SSDs moving SSDs would be trivial, but noooo,
Apple has to Think Different(). Damn foolishness.


apple's ssds are faster than most m.2 ssds.

4 clone first Mac to USB thumb drive (youll usually need a big thumb drive
for all apps and data; drives as small as 4-8 GB will work for just the OS)
and plug the thumb drive in, set startup, boot.


or skip enough files so that everything fits.

nobody needs their music and video collection on a usb thumb drive used
for an emergency boot.

Similar methods can be used with various Linux and BSD OSes. (Note: you may
have m,ore problems with some varieties. Not nearly as much as with Windows,.
though.)


true for cloning.

there is no migration assistant and the hardware does not have target
disk mode.
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Old July 16th 20, 11:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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On 2020-07-15 05:28, philo wrote:
Recently a friend of mind gave me her non-repairable laptop.

She needed another machine ....not necessarily needed a laptop but of
course her data was what was important.


I simply put the drive from her laptop into a spare machine I had and
Windows reconfigured and worked fine. I was even activated!


She was really happy to get her old desktop back just a few hours later.


Of all versions of Windows, I don't think I've ever seen an OS
reconfigure so well.


That is great feedback.

I can recount the days when XP would not migrate from
computer to computer. I was the only one in the area
that know how to do it. What a pain in the ass.

As far as OS'es go, I have a Fedora 32 full install on a
Samsung BAR flash drive that I carry with me to customer
sites for troubleshooting purposes. It boots both EUFI
and Legacy. And provided I can get some of these crappy
BIOS to boot off a USB flash drive, the flash drive
works in every single, stinkin' computer I have stuck
it in. It is nice that Windows 10 is catching up.

:-)

-T

 




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