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  #46  
Old July 8th 18, 07:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.msdos.batch,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Arlen Holder
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

On 8 Jul 2018 07:02:43 GMT, Paul wrote:

That's the kind of program you write, as a cmd.exe
launcher. The program must be sufficiently sophisticated,
to recognize the set of "objects" you have in mind.
Finding window borders is relatively easy...
The rest, not so much.


Hi Paul,

I admit I don't have the required computerist skills to understand how to
change the INF file below so that the "Open command window here (admin)"
works exactly like the "Open command window here" REG file context menu
entry does.

For example, after loading both the "user cmd" REG file and after loading
the "admin cmd" INF file, neither the "user cmd" or "admin cmd" context
menu entry shows up when I right click in white space on "My PC".
http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_showuphere01.jpg

But when I right click on "C:", the "user cmd" entry shows up,
while the "admin cmd" entry remains dormant:
http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_showuphere02.jpg

Similarly, when I right click in white space inside any one folder,
the "user cmd" shows up but the "admin command" remains hidden:
http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_showuphere03.jpg

Yet, when I right click on a folder, both finally show up:
http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_showuphere04.jpg

And, neither shows up when I right click on a file:
http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_showuphere05.jpg

I already posted the successful REG file, where below is that "Open command
window here (admin)" INF file.

I suspect there are few to no real computerists on this ng who have the
skills (or wish to use them) to prove the entire group's tribal archives
with a modification of that INF file which enables the "open command window
here (admin)" INF to work on any object like the "open command window here"
REG file already does.

Certainly I don't have those computerist skills (maybe Char Jackson has the
skills, or perhaps even Nil, or Diesel, or J.P. Gilliver, or Frank
Slootweg, or Wolf K.).

*** begin CmdHereAsAdmin.inf ***
[version]
signature="$CHICAGO$"

[CmdHereAsAdminInstall]
CopyFiles = CmdHereAsAdmin.Files.Inf
AddReg = CmdHereAsAdmin.AddReg

[DefaultInstall]
CopyFiles = CmdHereAsAdmin.Files.Inf
AddReg = CmdHereAsAdmin.AddReg

[DefaultUnInstall]
DelFiles = CmdHereAsAdmin.Files.Inf
DelReg = CmdHereAsAdmin.DelReg

[SourceDisksNames]
55="Open command window here (admin)","",1

[SourceDisksFiles]
CmdHereAsAdmin.INF=55

[DestinationDirs]
CmdHereAsAdmin.Files.Inf = 17

[CmdHereAsAdmin.Files.Inf]
CmdHereAsAdmin.INF

[CmdHereAsAdmin.AddReg]
HKLM,%UDHERE%,DisplayName,,"%CmdHereAsAdminName%"
HKLM,%UDHERE%,UninstallString,,"rundll32.exe syssetup.dll,SetupInfObjectInstallAction DefaultUninstall 132 %17%\CmdHereAsAdmin.inf"
HKCR,Directory\Shell\runas,,,"%CmdHereAsAdminAccel %"
HKCR,Directory\Shell\runas\command,,,"%11%\cmd.exe /k cd /d ""%1"""
HKCR,Drive\Shell\runas,,,"%CmdHereAsAdminAccel%"
HKCR,Drive\Shell\runas\command,,,"%11%\cmd.exe /k cd /d ""%1"""

[CmdHereAsAdmin.DelReg]
HKLM,%UDHERE%
HKCR,Directory\Shell\runas
HKCR,Drive\Shell\runas

[Strings]
CmdHereAsAdminName="Open command window here as admin (Uninstall only)"
CmdHereAsAdminAccel="Open command window here (admin)"

UDHERE="Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ Uninstall\CmdHereAsAdmin"
*** end CmdHereAsAdmin.inf ***
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  #47  
Old July 8th 18, 07:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

Frank,

As he says himself, his style and MO is rather easy to recognize.


Sorry, but I'm simply not that good I'm afraid. Might be because I need a
bit more than "most likely", as I would not like it in the least if some
unsuspecting newbie gets caught by it.

But to be fair, of late he doesn't nymshift that often.


Hmmm. The first post of Arlen that I can see (in windowsxp) is of june 8.
Before that Ragunussen Ultred and (march 16, may 3), mike (april 29, may 29)
and Ultred Ragnussen (feb 14, march 8). (and that is as far as I can look
back). Either he took a month off here and there, or I missed a few.

The above seems to show he uses a montly cycle, although he also mentioned
he keeps his nym until a thread ends. Which ofcourse he just did himself
(making it exactly another month).

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


  #48  
Old July 8th 18, 09:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

On 08 Jul 2018, "R.Wieser" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

Nil,

It's the old "Why Don't You -- Yes But..." game in
Transactional Analysis.

...
The goal is not to actually solve any problem.


Possibly, but I do not really want to make such an assumption.


It's my assumption, but it's certainly not the only explanation.

You see, it can be as easily be either what many projects
(commercial or not) succumb to - because of the "I'm making stuff
up as I go" client - and/or, likely in Arlens case, the "on a need
to know basis" one, (he only tells you when he thinks you should
know) thinking that that will protect his idea against being
stolen.

That either of those above waste massive ammounts of effort (at
each change) on the side of the ones who try to understand (and
create) what the end-result should be does not even cross their
minds ... Logically, as its not *their* effort that gets wasted.
:-(


I watched that happen where I worked in the '90s. They spent hundreds
of thousands of dollars on a software project that they never defined
well in the first place. Later on the goalposts kept moving and there
were countless delays and dead ends, and in the end we wound up with a
broken, useless piece of junk.

I also think that Arlen is most likely (still) a novice, with
aspirations *way* outof his league. But than again, we all went
thru that phase (for shorter or longer times). :-(


But not usually so publicly and with so much hubris.
  #49  
Old July 9th 18, 04:10 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.msdos.batch,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Arlen Holder
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

On 8 Jul 2018 18:23:14 GMT, Arlen Holder wrote:

Certainly I don't have those computerist skills (maybe Char Jackson has the
skills, or perhaps even Nil, or Diesel, or J.P. Gilliver, or Frank
Slootweg, or Wolf K.).
HKCR,Directory\Shell\runas\command,,,"%11%\cmd.exe /k cd /d ""%1"""
HKCR,Drive\Shell\runas\command,,,"%11%\cmd.exe /k cd /d ""%1"""


One empirical success to report is that we are now successful at opening a
red command window with white letters, where the reason for caring about
the color is to ensure that the user will always realize it's an "admin"
command window (yes, it says so on top also).

The solution for the red window was simple, as suggested by John Kerr-Mudd
in alt.msdos.batch, which was to use the "cmd.exe" "/color" option:
http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_cmdwindow03.jpg

Adding that option to the INF file as shown below, worked fine:
HKCR,Directory\Shell\runas\command,,,"%11%\cmd.exe /T:47 /k cd /d ""%1"""
HKCR,Drive\Shell\runas\command,,,"%11%\cmd.exe /k cd /d /T:47 ""%1"""
http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_cmdwindow04.jpg

Now the only thing left is to figure out how to modify the context menu for
the open admin command window to work no matter where you position the
mouse.
  #50  
Old July 9th 18, 09:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

"R.Wieser" news Sun, 08 Jul 2018 11:44:05 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

Hmmm... How do you guys keep track of him ? He nym-shifts
(among others) like there is no tomorrow ...


Their posting style. They don't make any effort to change/alter it,
so, I'm sure they know they can be identified by continuing to do it.



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  #51  
Old July 12th 18, 06:09 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

On 4 Jul 2018 23:45:41 GMT, Arlen Holder wrote:
b. Start Run vipw {enter} == decrypts an encrypted password file


*NEXT STEPS TO A GLOBAL TRIBAL KNOWLEDGE CROSS-PLATFORM SOLUTION:*

After a few days of testing, I must thanks the purposefully helpful folks
on this ng for coming up with KeePass as a great solution for the command:
Start Run vipw

Where linux-proficient users in this newsgroup (which would likely be most
of you), know inherently what "vipw" muscle-memory means but where the
actual typed command could have been anything:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\vipw.exe
Default = c:\path\to\keepass.exe
or, more usefully:
Default = c:\path\to\passwd.kdbx
*(Where, perhaps, that can be a network path of \\server\share\file.kdbx)?*

The beauty is that the keepass formats are respected by all the platforms,
linux, windows, android, and even iOS.

As is often the case with cross-platform files, there are some
considerations to be made as to the specific keypass format selected:
What's the best KeePass App for Linux, Windows, and Android?
https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-best-KeePass-App-for-Android

For Ubuntu, as usual, it's super easy to install & set up:
sudo apt install keepass2

For Windows, where KeePass was written, the choice is easy also:
https://keepass.info/download.html

Where we have two main choices for Android, either KeepassDroid:
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.android.keepass/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.android.keepass
Or the Keepass2Android application:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=keepass2android.keepass2android

And, for iOS, it seems to be a more difficult choice:
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/keepassx-minikeepass-a-free-secure-ios-mac-os-x-password-solution/

As is almost always the case for the Orwellian iOS design, the apps are
less functional, which this article states outright:
"Due to so many restrictions imposed by the iOS, KeePass Touch
is not as feature rich as Keepass2Android."
https://www.guidingtech.com/51929/use-keepass-android-ios/

Given the Orwellian iOS setup, it seems that the best solution for iOS
might be either the Keepasstouch (KeePass Touch) or Minikeepass app:
https://sourceforge.net/p/keepass/discussion/329220/thread/eb00d276/

Minikeepass:
https://itunes.apple.com/app/id451661808
KeePassTouch:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id966759076

Then there's the issue of syncing the password file where most tutorials
seem to use DropBox, surprisingly (which seems to be a horrid solution):
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2098428/use-keepass-in-both-windows-and-android.html
https://www.guidingtech.com/29652/sync-keepass-android/
https://www.guidingtech.com/51929/use-keepass-android-ios/
etc.

I will not put my passwords on the cloud, which is a high-level
philosophical decision that everyone here, I'm sure, understands the
rationale of. even as they may not weigh the pros & cons the same.

Nonetheless, coming up with a *local* sync solution benefits all.

That means I need to come up with a local sync solution, where, this idea
of setting up a Windows folder as an FTP server of sorts, is one place I
will explore to further the solution for the tribal archives:
https://www.guidingtech.com/34045/host-folder-ftp-server-windows/
"This trick can be used to share files between computers when many
of them are connected to the same network. But wait, because thatĘs
not all! Stay tuned and I will show you how to combine the trick
with an Android app to get unlimited, real-time file syncing
between Windows and Android."

Before I move forward on the local syncing solution, I simply ask the
technically competent users here if they have a working sync solution on
their local LAN that automatically or manually syncs across the platforms,
Windows, Linux, Android, and iOS?
  #52  
Old August 6th 20, 12:32 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.freeware
Arlen Holder[_9_]
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 08:48:33 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

And, as you or whoever first said, SAMBA should be usable now,
and even well before you wrote this thread for access to access
the password file on a lan, and can be set to not use the
default lock file, and automatically write changes to the
password file after any changes.


Hi rheal,

Regarding your recent update to:
o *What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/A3-8gDntX0w

While the beauty of, oh, say, "Win+R vipw" is working well...
o I haven't been able to get Samba/Cifs/SMB to work all that well.

For example, to get vipw to work well, you simply set either this key:
o HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\vipw.exe
default=C:\app\database\keepass\keepass.exe
Or this (both work just fine):
o default=C:\data\database\keepass\keepass.kdbx

Note: The "vipw.exe" is just a keyword; there is no file named that.

Either way, to bring up the password file, you simply type the command:
o Win+R vipw {enter}

And the Windows "magic" brings up the keepass database, where the same
Keepass database works on Android (it's the same file if you network):
o *Which free Android KeePass kdbx-compatible password database manager?*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/yUrCZ2v0tmg

As for Samba, what's new since that ancient thread was opened
is that we found a free version of the latest Android Samba client
version SMBv2 and SMBv3 (which makes the client safe!):
o *Do you know of a free Android SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/tl3Q05QGyAw

Unfortunately, there is no way to put a Samba server on an unrooted Android
phone, simply because Windows won't allow any other port than 443 and
Android (unrooted) won't allow any port below 1024 (AFAIK).
o *What's the best way to forward SMB TCP port 445 to something higher*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/3QQ8bAZeXNI

Note: Frank Slootweg knows a lot more about those SMB limitations.

The good news is that SMB seems to be a reliable connection, over time:
o *Why would SMB seem to be more reliable than WebDav or FTP or KDEConnect*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/KAr3I1KY8Gg

In summary, with Samba/Cifs/SMB and with the "app paths" key (and a few
other tricks) you can set up quick "vipw" commands to edit the same keepass
database over your private home LAN.
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  #53  
Old August 6th 20, 03:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.freeware,free.spam
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

Why did this post show up, after I ignored the thread?
Something to do with this poster constantly crossposting?

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From: Arlen Holder
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.fre eware
Subject: What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 23:32:45 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Mixmin
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References:
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 08:48:33 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

And, as you or whoever first said, SAMBA should be usable now,
and even well before you wrote this thread for access to access
the password file on a lan, and can be set to not use the
default lock file, and automatically write changes to the
password file after any changes.


Hi rheal,

Regarding your recent update to:
o *What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/A3-8gDntX0w

While the beauty of, oh, say, "Win+R vipw" is working well...
o I haven't been able to get Samba/Cifs/SMB to work all that well.

For example, to get vipw to work well, you simply set either this key:
o HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\vipw.exe
default=C:\app\database\keepass\keepass.exe
Or this (both work just fine):
o default=C:\data\database\keepass\keepass.kdbx

Note: The "vipw.exe" is just a keyword; there is no file named that.

Either way, to bring up the password file, you simply type the command:
o Win+R vipw {enter}

And the Windows "magic" brings up the keepass database, where the same
Keepass database works on Android (it's the same file if you network):
o *Which free Android KeePass kdbx-compatible password database manager?*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/yUrCZ2v0tmg

As for Samba, what's new since that ancient thread was opened
is that we found a free version of the latest Android Samba client
version SMBv2 and SMBv3 (which makes the client safe!):
o *Do you know of a free Android SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/tl3Q05QGyAw

Unfortunately, there is no way to put a Samba server on an unrooted Android
phone, simply because Windows won't allow any other port than 443 and
Android (unrooted) won't allow any port below 1024 (AFAIK).
o *What's the best way to forward SMB TCP port 445 to something higher*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/3QQ8bAZeXNI

Note: Frank Slootweg knows a lot more about those SMB limitations.

The good news is that SMB seems to be a reliable connection, over time:
o *Why would SMB seem to be more reliable than WebDav or FTP or KDEConnect*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/KAr3I1KY8Gg

In summary, with Samba/Cifs/SMB and with the "app paths" key (and a few
other tricks) you can set up quick "vipw" commands to edit the same keepass
database over your private home LAN.
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  #54  
Old August 6th 20, 07:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.freeware,free.spam
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_7_]
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 at 02:57:39, John Doe
wrote:
Why did this post show up, after I ignored the thread?
Something to do with this poster constantly crossposting?

And nymshifting.
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Old August 6th 20, 09:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 at 02:57:39, John Doe
wrote:
Why did this post show up, after I ignored the thread?
Something to do with this poster constantly crossposting?

And nymshifting.


Threading is mainly done with References: line, which has
a ~1000 character limit. The sub-thread in this case, has
sufficient MID entries, to be associated with the main
thread. An Ignore-Thread should have worked.

Threading is weakly based on Subject, in that if the
References: line is empty, a bunch of posts with "Help"
as the Subject: , could be presented as if they were
the same thread.

I don't think anything else matters when it comes
to the topic of threading, because we do have
posters who change subject mid-thread, and
that never seems to throw off the reader.

The sub-thread in question *is* missing a Google Groups posting.
Maybe that has affected the "math" the reader uses
to judge whether it's a new thread or something.
Looking backwards and noticing there's a gap
and that upsets the "math". I'm really surprised
readers don't place a Missing entry on the screen,
to represent an item that is nominally threaded,
but is not available in the spool.

It seems Mixmin treats Google a bit differently than
the other servers do.

Paul
  #56  
Old August 7th 20, 02:20 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.freeware
Arlen Holder[_9_]
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 16:50:40 -0400, Paul wrote:

It seems Mixmin treats Google a bit differently than
the other servers do.


Hi Paul,

You're not generally a worthless piece of **** troll like
J.P. Gilliver and John Doe always prove to be (by what they write),
so I'll try to patiently respond to what you wrote about Mixmin
handling Google.

I'm not sure what the controversy is, where all I can tell you
is I saw the post to my old thread from
since I have a LIFO sort.

This is the post that I responded to in a normal "reply" fashion:
o https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/A3-8gDntX0w/S2syip-JBAAJ

These are the headers of that article, which I simply responded to:
o https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.comp.freeware/A3-8gDntX0w/S2syip-JBAAJ

Since it was my old thread, I responded, although I admit the post from
was difficult to comprehend, and all I did was add
back the original newsgroup list, since my intent, always, is to create
and update permanent references for permanent Usenet archives.

I realize common worthless piece of **** trolls like J. P. Gilliver
and John Doe are too child like to comprehend that adult purpose,
but the fact the worthless pieces of **** (who have never once in
their entire lives written even a single tutorial for others to
benefit from) can't comprehend that value-added strategy.

Since "rheal" discussed Samba, I updated the thread that our SMB/Cif/Samba
skills have since improved, and I noted details on the "vipw"
tutorial which we learned afterward, which allow us to "vipw"
the _same_ file (whether it's on Android or on Windows or on Linux).

Given my post was a direct simple normal "reply" (which is no different
than this reply to you), I didn't do anything to the Reference header.

In summary...
1. I saw an update to my old thread by rheal
2. I responded with new information
3. Worthless pieces of **** like Pooh trolled the thread
(it's all they can do since they have no technical capabilities)

And then you responded something about mixmin handling Google headers.
o What's going on?

Seems to me a lot of ruckus for a simple technical response, but if
you want to see the entire thread, it's all here, I would think:
o What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/A3-8gDntX0w
https://alt.comp.freeware.narkive.com/YHEkveYg/what-windwos-freeware-adds-powerful-phone-susan-vipw-commands

BTW, despite the worthless pieces of **** like JP Gilliver and John Doe
trolling this thread, bear in mind having a "vipw" command (and hundreds
more like it) that edits the same password file on Android & Windows
is a pretty neat feature of Windows, which is why I wrote the tutorial.

So that everyone benefits from every tweak I make to my system that
I document sufficiently for them to be able to make the same tweak,
now, and for years to come since it's archived in the permanent record.
o http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware
o http://alt.comp.os.window-10.narkive.com
o http://tinyurl.com/windowsxp-general
etc.
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  #57  
Old August 7th 20, 03:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.freeware,free.spam
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

This is not much of a surprise. He held it for a long time,
but now the Mr. Hyde is emerging from the Dr. Jekyll.

Getting most of its jollies from trolling the Apple group,
this poster might very easily be "Good Guy"...

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Arlen Holder wrote:

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From: Arlen Holder
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.fre eware
Subject: What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 01:20:40 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Mixmin
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 16:50:40 -0400, Paul wrote:

It seems Mixmin treats Google a bit differently than
the other servers do.


Hi Paul,

You're not generally a worthless piece of **** troll like
J.P. Gilliver and John Doe always prove to be (by what they write),
so I'll try to patiently respond to what you wrote about Mixmin
handling Google.

I'm not sure what the controversy is, where all I can tell you
is I saw the post to my old thread from
since I have a LIFO sort.

This is the post that I responded to in a normal "reply" fashion:
o https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/A3-8gDntX0w/S2syip-JBAAJ

These are the headers of that article, which I simply responded to:
o https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.comp.freeware/A3-8gDntX0w/S2syip-JBAAJ

Since it was my old thread, I responded, although I admit the post from
was difficult to comprehend, and all I did was add
back the original newsgroup list, since my intent, always, is to create
and update permanent references for permanent Usenet archives.

I realize common worthless piece of **** trolls like J. P. Gilliver
and John Doe are too child like to comprehend that adult purpose,
but the fact the worthless pieces of **** (who have never once in
their entire lives written even a single tutorial for others to
benefit from) can't comprehend that value-added strategy.

Since "rheal" discussed Samba, I updated the thread that our SMB/Cif/Samba
skills have since improved, and I noted details on the "vipw"
tutorial which we learned afterward, which allow us to "vipw"
the _same_ file (whether it's on Android or on Windows or on Linux).

Given my post was a direct simple normal "reply" (which is no different
than this reply to you), I didn't do anything to the Reference header.

In summary...
1. I saw an update to my old thread by rheal
2. I responded with new information
3. Worthless pieces of **** like Pooh trolled the thread
(it's all they can do since they have no technical capabilities)

And then you responded something about mixmin handling Google headers.
o What's going on?

Seems to me a lot of ruckus for a simple technical response, but if
you want to see the entire thread, it's all here, I would think:
o What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/A3-8gDntX0w
https://alt.comp.freeware.narkive.com/YHEkveYg/what-windwos-freeware-adds-powerful-phone-susan-vipw-commands

BTW, despite the worthless pieces of **** like JP Gilliver and John Doe
trolling this thread, bear in mind having a "vipw" command (and hundreds
more like it) that edits the same password file on Android & Windows
is a pretty neat feature of Windows, which is why I wrote the tutorial.

So that everyone benefits from every tweak I make to my system that
I document sufficiently for them to be able to make the same tweak,
now, and for years to come since it's archived in the permanent record.
o http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware
o http://alt.comp.os.window-10.narkive.com
o http://tinyurl.com/windowsxp-general
etc.
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There are two kinds of people on Usenet but only one adds any value.



  #58  
Old August 7th 20, 03:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
John Doe[_8_]
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Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

Paul wrote:

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
John Doe wrote:


Why did this post show up, after I ignored the thread?
Something to do with this poster constantly crossposting?


And nymshifting.


Threading is mainly done with References: line, which has
a ~1000 character limit. The sub-thread in this case, has
sufficient MID entries, to be associated with the main
thread. An Ignore-Thread should have worked.

Threading is weakly based on Subject, in that if the
References: line is empty, a bunch of posts with "Help"
as the Subject: , could be presented as if they were
the same thread.

I don't think anything else matters when it comes
to the topic of threading, because we do have
posters who change subject mid-thread, and
that never seems to throw off the reader.

The sub-thread in question *is* missing a Google Groups posting.
Maybe that has affected the "math" the reader uses
to judge whether it's a new thread or something.
Looking backwards and noticing there's a gap
and that upsets the "math". I'm really surprised
readers don't place a Missing entry on the screen,
to represent an item that is nominally threaded,
but is not available in the spool.

It seems Mixmin treats Google a bit differently than
the other servers do.


Arlan Holder's (a.k.a. "Good Guy") post shows up as messed up here on
Eternal September.

On Astraweb, his post shows up as the second original post in the
thread, after his first, even though it is supposed to be replying to
somebody.

I'm convinced the poster is Good Guy. He acts like he's on a mission
to serve Microsoft (just like Good Guy). Constantly shilling for
Microsoft (including trolling the Apple groups). If not being paid,
he's loony.

This "Arlan Holder" stuff is his attempt to drop the HTML, going
incognito, trying to save face.

Notice how well he takes correction...
Just like Good Guy responded so well to the HTML criticism from
EVERYBODY.
  #59  
Old August 9th 20, 01:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.freeware
Arlen Holder[_9_]
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Posts: 358
Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 19:41:25 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

And nymshifting.


For the permanent Usenet record to preserve...
*Every time J.P. Gilliver posts, he proves he's a worthless piece of *****

Devoid of any on-topic technical added value.
o Normally I ignore worthless trolls like JP Gilliver...

Except he follows me around the Internet like a sad lost puppy
o So I will begin to point out JP Gilliver's posts in threads I author

As _never_ even once in his life ever adding any on-topic technical value.
o He, himself, proves the assertion that he's a worthless piece of ****.

Every single time he posts to Usenet.

In the entire history of Usenet, nobody can find even a _single_ thread by
JP Gilliver, let alone a response, or a tutorial, or anything whatsoever of
on-topic technical value - on _any_ Usenet newsgroup - in his entire life.

Not even one.

As he proved the merit of that claim, yet again, in this thread.
o Pointing to JP Gilliver's post is proof he's a worthless piece of ****.
--
Whenever JP Gilliver proves he's a worthless piece of **** in threads I
author, I'll simply point out that JP Gilliver is incapable of adding value
to ANY thread topic - I'll point that out simply by point to EXACTLY what
JP Gilliver posts to Usenet.
  #60  
Old August 9th 20, 01:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.freeware,free.spam
John Doe[_8_]
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Posts: 2,208
Default What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

Arlen Holder (a.k.a. Good Guy) dreamt he was a real poster and loved it.
But now the dream is over and the troll is awake...

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Arlen Holder wrote:

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From: Arlen Holder
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.fre eware
Subject: What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 00:18:10 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Mixmin
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On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 19:41:25 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

And nymshifting.


For the permanent Usenet record to preserve...
*Every time J.P. Gilliver posts, he proves he's a worthless piece of *****

Devoid of any on-topic technical added value.
o Normally I ignore worthless trolls like JP Gilliver...

Except he follows me around the Internet like a sad lost puppy
o So I will begin to point out JP Gilliver's posts in threads I author

As _never_ even once in his life ever adding any on-topic technical value.
o He, himself, proves the assertion that he's a worthless piece of ****.

Every single time he posts to Usenet.

In the entire history of Usenet, nobody can find even a _single_ thread by
JP Gilliver, let alone a response, or a tutorial, or anything whatsoever of
on-topic technical value - on _any_ Usenet newsgroup - in his entire life.

Not even one.

As he proved the merit of that claim, yet again, in this thread.
o Pointing to JP Gilliver's post is proof he's a worthless piece of ****.
--
Whenever JP Gilliver proves he's a worthless piece of **** in threads I
author, I'll simply point out that JP Gilliver is incapable of adding value
to ANY thread topic - I'll point that out simply by point to EXACTLY what
JP Gilliver posts to Usenet.



 




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