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CCleaner Is Silently Updating Users Who Turned Off Automatic Updates
VanguardLH wrote:
Mayayana wrote: I don't get how [GPDR] a problem for software authors. It's a nuisance to them. It is a problem for the users. Authors have to push a new version to be GDPR compliant. Nope. They only have to inform the user if they were/are collecting *personal* information (i.e. things like name, e-mail address, address, phone number, age, sex, etc.,etc.). *If* they've been collecting such information, it most likely includes the user's e-mail address, so they can just send e-mail, no need for a new version of the software. And that's exactly what's happening. I've received many such e-mails. [...] For example, Microsoft, Avast, and many other software programs have logistics collection sometimes called community reporting or some other euphemism. It lets the authors know how their programs or services are being used. Yep, you could opt-out but you were initially and covertly opted in by default. GPDR doesn't stop authors/owners from adding even more collection methods but it states the user must opt-in, not have to sometime later upon discovery to opt-out. The GPDR is about *personal* information, not about anonymous/ anonymized statistical/usage data. Alas, GPDR does not require opt-in when the user has already consented. Nonsense. When you open an account at a site or establish any business or interaction with a site, you're supposed to have already read their TOS and privacy terms. Establishing a relationship means you grant them to contact you, which opens the door to them spamming you. There's a whole mess going on regarding spam and GPDR. Of course, that only affects EU citizens since the US and other countries are not part of the EU. Allowing a 'relation' to *contact* you is a seperate issue. It does *not* mean that you've implicitly given consent to their past TOS, etc.. Actually the GDPR *mandates* that - as of May 25, 2018 - the relation must explicitly ask *again* for any and all consent. And, as I've said above, that's exactly what they're doing. Before and after May 25, I/everybody got many, many of such requests-for-consent. What's worse is sites that say, "Hi! Happy to see you... as long as you agree to this thing that signs away your rights." Yep, their property (the web site), so they can dictate anything that remains contractionally legal for them. GPDR only mandates the user be informed although the information can be buried where most users cannot find it or won't bother to look. Nope, the information can *not* be "buried". The GPDR does not ban any author (software or web) from collecting information on you whether it be generic (they're not identifying you but instead just collecting statistics) or specific. GPDR only requires the user/visitor be informed. Silent or covert opt-in is not allowed by GPDR. Correct, so why do you say/imply otherwise in your earlier text? [Non GDPR stuff deleted.] |
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"Wolf K" wrote
| I have two online subs (one includes the paper versions as well). No | ads, well worth the money around $25/month. | The problem with that, though, is that the system of dishonest spying is already entrenched. It ends up being payment *plus* spying. We have a paper subscription to the NYT. Personally I don't think it's worth it. They tell me the news with a business skew 36 hours after I read it online. (But I have no choice. My ladyfriend is from Brooklyn and apparently anyone who leaves there is required to get the NYT if they want to retain citizenship. I think I could get an online version of the NYT for free with the paper, but why let them spy on me while I read? They're so anxious to collect that data that they now fill pages 2 and 3 with nonsensical tidbits and lures to online content. I've developed the habit of skipping pages 2 and 3 altogether. I'm struck by the nerve of the NYT in this, that they're willing to risk the alienation of customers by actually refusing to print some articles, making them available only online. If it were up to me I'd cancel the paper on that point alone. Though when I do look at what they're offering online, it turns out it's often what the British so delightfully describe as "paff". Today there are photos of some amateur interior designing done by a movie director. Huh? |
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In message , Mayayana
writes: [] But the consumers are already plotting ways to beat the system without questioning it. One person suggested getting a dog, fitting it with a fitbit, then sending that data to John Hancock. It would be funny if it weren't pitiably true. [] There could be an opportunity there, for people to offer to wear your fitbit (and similar devices), and wander aimlessly - or aimfully for that matter. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; he who dares not is a slave." - Sir William Drummond Above all things, use your mind. Don't be that bigot, fool, or slave. |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote | But the consumers are already plotting ways to | beat the system without questioning it. One person | suggested getting a dog, fitting it with a fitbit, then | sending that data to John Hancock. It would be | funny if it weren't pitiably true. | | There could be an opportunity there, for people to offer to wear your | fitbit (and similar devices), and wander aimlessly - or aimfully for | that matter. Maybe. But their payment would probably be little more than a coupon for power granola bars. Those things will kill you. |
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VanguardLH on Wed, 19 Sep 2018 23:21:02 -0500 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following: Spamming works because one boob in a million qualifies the spam campaign. Spamming would not have survived if no one bought from the spammers. It would've come and quickly disappeared because no one acted upon that spam. So, is spam the fault of the spammers that find it lucrative to catch one out of a million or the fault of the assholes they buy to further fund the spamming effort? Prostitution and drug trafficking continue to exist because there exist customers. Same for spam. Advertising in a nutshell. There is a cliche that half your advertising budget is wasted, but you can't know which half. If enough people respond to an ad campaign to pay for the campaign, manufacturing, distribution, management, and show a profit, it was money well spent. With Email, the cost is low, so you only need one "sale" to recoup.* tschus pyotr *I'm recalling a radio ad for HP printers (iirc). Brand X was selling printers for $1,000,000. Hadn't sold any yet, but when they did, the second one would be pure profit. -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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On 20/09/2018 04:28, VanguardLH wrote:
Mayayana wrote: Only if they're spying. There's no reason for software authors to be collecting personal info in the first place. Many users consider metrics measurement as spying despite that it doesn't necessarily identify the user. For example, they're afraid a site will get their IP address (but then EVERY endpoint must know your IP address to know where to handshake and send back the requested content). Since the IP address could be collected is why users get afraid that their identity is surrendered. If you had someone's IP address, can you tell what is their name, sex, age, religion, political affiliations, economic status, marital status, and so on? Nope, just something like a 50+ radius circle for their geolocation. Not necessarily even that - as the crow flies, I'm about 500 miles away from where my IP comes out into the world, which is further than the nearest capital of a neighbouring country. However, it does identify a particular user from a particular ISP at a particular moment in time, and this can be used with other metadata to identify particular individuals over longer periods of time. Does the GPDR apply to web browsers? If not then those clients don't need to alert their users that geolocation is enabled. In Firefox, you have to dig into about:config to disable geolocation. There have been many programs that send metrics on their use (crash reports, run-time, etc). Avast is one. There are many others. Yes, users can disable that "feature" but how many users actually delve into a program's settings? You're missing the point. Users have the democratic *choice* of configuring most such programs not to phone home. GDPR is about giving users similar choices about the information collected from them on the web. Is collection your IP address considered "personally identifying information" when it merely lumps you in with everyone else in a 50-mile radius? Is repeated capture of your IP address considered personally identifying you? Combined with other metadata, it could be. Of course they're spying. They say so themselves. They want me to agree to being tracked for the purposes of targetted ads. Here's their quote: "By choosing "I agree" below, you agree that NPR's sites use cookies, similar tracking and storage technologies, and information about the device you use to access our sites to enhance your viewing, listening and user experience, personalize content, personalize messages from NPR's sponsors, provide social media features, and analyze NPR's traffic. This information is shared with social media services, sponsorship, analytics and other third-party service providers." Cookies are used for re-login. Not necessarily. Potentially, within limits concerning the number of cookies and their maximum individual size which differ across browsers, they can hold any textual information a website programmer wants them to hold. DOM Storage is local data similar to cookies but to hold more information about your visit and current state at a site to be reused later. You are not forced to let them store your user data in a local cache. Agreed. If you configure your web browser regarding privacy, they cannot detect your return. Much less certain, see below ... So whose responsibility is it to comply with GDPR? The site for using features in your web browser or the author of the web browser for defaulting to enabling those features? Certainly morally both, and but legally probably the site, because ... This getting akin to the argument "Who is responsible for someone getting shot? The gun maker, the gun shop that sold the gun, or the person that used the gun?" Again, morally all of them, but obviously primarily the person that did the shooting. Legally, the person doing the shooting, but the other two may be guilty of criminal behaviour as well, depending on the circumstances. Even if site's didn't create EU versus non-EU versions of their sites, they could infuriate EU citizens by prompting them to okay each condition of their TOS or privacy policy. And, or course, denying any of their conditions could have them just say "Goodbye. We respect your privacy restrictions." They'd lose business, not just from EU citizens, but also because Americans visiting the EU would get mad at them. If users are currently ignorant of how to configure their web browser regarding their privacy, you really think they'll understand a barrage of prompts querying on each point in a privacy policy or read it should there be an obvious link on the home page? How many users read the EULA that comes with software? Again, they have the democratic *choice* to do so if they wish. However, of course, the EULA is designed to protect the company's interests, not the End User's. There's also a link to further details: https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=609131973#cookiepolicy None of which qualifies as *personally identifying information*. IP address: etc Again, you are missing the point. While none of these pieces of information ON ITS OWN seems to identify very much, taken together with other metadata that can be gathered, they can reveal an astonishing amount, often being able to identify a particular individual. https://panopticlick.eff.org/ Clicking 'Test Me' gives me ... Test Result Is your browser blocking tracking ads? ✗ no Is your browser blocking invisible trackers? ✗ no Does your browser unblock 3rd parties that promise to honor Do Not Track? ✗ no Does your browser protect from fingerprinting? ✗ your browser has a unique fingerprint Note particularly that last result. It seems I am easily tracked. The details of that result are appended for those who are interested. If you were a UK resident, I'd recommend you to listen to a recent episode of BBC Inside Science via the BBC iPlayer, but I'm not sure whether even radio downloads are available outside the UK. Throughout the summer they have been showcasing the short list for the Royal Society Book Prize. One of the candidates is a book by mathematician Dr Hannah Fry called "Hello World!" about the modern use of computer algorithms. In this clip she explains how disparate pieces of information, each apparently insignificant on its own, are pieced together to be able to draw surprising conclusions. Perhaps the best example she gives is that if you have a store loyalty card, are female, and buy vitamin pills and unscented body lotion, they can work out that you're pregnant, and send you offers for nappies, etc: https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/b0bgw30j 19:02 minutes in Alternatively, a little longer ago she was a guest panelist on The Infinite Monkey Cage, where she expounded on this story in greater detail, including that it was an American store called 'Target' and that in 2012 a father of a teenage daughter had actually gone to his local store in Minneapolis to complain about her being sent these coupons as it seemed to be 'normalising' teenage pregnancy, but by the time the store rang him at home to apologise, his daughter had admitted to him that she was indeed pregnant. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b9wbf8 7:38 minutes in Much of the following needs updating, but nevertheless it's still quite a good canter around some of the individual threats, but the real danger is how the small, apparently insignificant, pieces of information get combined. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_privacy Cookies: "The original developers of cookies intended that only the website that originally distributed cookies to users could retrieve them, therefore returning only data already possessed by the website. However, in practice programmers can circumvent this restriction. Possible consequences include: * the placing of a personally-identifiable tag in a browser to facilitate web profiling (see below) * use of cross-site scripting or other techniques to steal information from a user's cookies. [...] one of the most common ways of theft is hackers taking one's username and password that a cookie saves. While a lot of sites are free, they have to make a profit somehow so they sell their space to advertisers. These ads, which are personalized to one's likes, can often freeze one's computer or cause annoyance. Cookies are mostly harmless except for third-party cookies.[23] These cookies are not made by the website itself, but by web banner advertising companies. These third-party cookies are so dangerous because they take the same information that regular cookies do, such as browsing habits and frequently visited websites, but then they give out this information to other companies." Photographs on the Internet "Face recognition technology can be used to gain access to a person's private data, according to a new study. Researchers at Carnegie Mellon University combined image scanning, cloud computing and public profiles from social network sites to identify individuals in the offline world. Data captured even included a user's social security number.[45] Experts have warned of the privacy risks faced by the increased merging of our online and offline identities. The researchers have also developed an 'augmented reality' mobile app that can display personal data over a person's image captured on a smartphone screen.[46] Since these technologies are widely available, our future identities may become exposed to anyone with a smartphone and an Internet connection. Researchers believe this could force us to reconsider our future attitudes to privacy." Google Street View " In one instance, Ruedi Noser, a Swiss politician, barely avoided public scandal when he was photographed in 2009 on Google Street View walking with a woman who was not his wife – the woman was actually his secretary" and so on. Also ... https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...n-the-same-pc/ https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromi...ion-mechanisms https://pet-portal.eu/files/articles...erprinting.pdf Here are the detailed findings ... Browser Characteristic bits of identifying information one in x browsers have this value value Limited supercookie test 0.37 1.29 DOM localStorage: Yes, DOM sessionStorage: Yes, IE userData: No Hash of canvas fingerprint 20.05 1088160.0 de7fbe2badf5c8a7fff29615325949c3 Screen Size and Color Depth 2.85 7.2 1366x768x24 Browser Plugin Details 21.05 2176320.0 Plugin 0: Java Deployment Toolkit 8.0.1410.15; NPRuntime Script Plug-in Library for Java(TM) Deploy; npdeployJava1.dll; (; application/java-deployment-toolkit; ). 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"Java Jive" wrote
| Cookies are used for re-login. | | Not necessarily. Potentially, within limits concerning the number of | cookies and their maximum individual size which differ across browsers, | they can hold any textual information a website programmer wants them to | hold. | In addition to your extensive listing of unique data collected, there's an almost endless list of possibilities for tracking. For instance, simple web bug images can help ID by allowing 1st-party cookies to be set by tracking companies. There's even a trick of using script with the DOM to check the color of links in the page, thereby telling the server which linked pages you've visited. (Though notably, few of these tracking methods can be used without script.) Time and again it's been demonstrated that there's no such thing as anonymous data. That, after all, is the whole point of data collection in the age of computers. Before computers you might give personal info to a local store but it was kept in a file cabinet and only used to deal with you as a customer. Today that same info can be distributed and analyzed instantaneously. A company like Google would be thwarting themselves if they didn't personally identify people. They would actually need a complex system in place to avoid making the connections that their business depends on. The page I linked the other day details some of the simplest personal tracking that can be done even by someone with no expertise, just by using Google tools and thereby letting Google spy on your visitors: https://www.lunametrics.com/blog/201...ng-real-users/ |
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On 09/20/2018 09:31 AM, Wolf K wrote:
I used to check FB 4 orÂ*5Â*timesÂ*aÂ*week,Â*nowÂ*it'sÂ*downÂ*toÂ*less *thanÂ*onceÂ*aÂ*week. I'd say 10 years ago, I lived on FB. 8-10 hours playing games. My niece and nephew got me hooked on the games. I even bought FB money for investing in the games to buy those extras they entice you into. But alas I get on there once a week maybe. It's poor sort order and lack of a good feed anymore has driven me away. My wife and I both follow a lot of the same people and subjects and she is constantly asking me how I see a post she doesn't. I wouldn't cry if FB Died. |
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:36:00 -0400, Stan Brown wrote:
I'm sure this How-to Geek article won't change the minds of CCleaner lovers, but here it is: https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/cclean...pdating-users- who-turned-off-automatic-updates/ No silent updates on my end... -- s|b |
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On 09/20/2018 04:14 PM, s|b wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:36:00 -0400, Stan Brown wrote: I'm sure this How-to Geek article won't change the minds of CCleaner lovers, but here it is: https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/cclean...pdating-users- who-turned-off-automatic-updates/ No silent updates on my end... What version are you? |
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On 20/09/2018 18:42, Java Jive wrote:
Alternatively, a little longer ago she was a guest panelist on The Infinite Monkey Cage, where she expounded on this story in greater detail, including that it was an American store called 'Target' and that in 2012 a father of a teenage daughter had actually gone to his local store in Minneapolis to complain about her being sent these coupons as it seemed to be 'normalising' teenage pregnancy, but by the time the store rang him at home to apologise, his daughter had admitted to him that she was indeed pregnant. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b9wbf8Â*Â* 7:38 minutes in When I wrote the above I'd only re-listened to the program as far as finding that particular clip, which on first hearing had been been emotionally striking enough for me to remember something about it, but, having since re-listened to the entire program, there's actually a better, but less emotional and therefore I had less reason to remember it, example later on, beginning at 22:06, which describes how data from *different* sources was combined in a similarly revealing way ... Apparently a database of New York taxi cab data was made available to those who had a legitimate reason to access it, but it was insufficiently well encrypted, and someone broke the encryption and published the data online - it contained details of every cab ride made over a given period: cab number, starting point, destination, fare paid, etc, even tip received. A journalist then realised that he could search paparazzi photographs of celebs getting into cabs, identify the cab, and then search the database for the ride data, and as a result published a list of the different tips given by celebs to cab drivers, and the programme also mentioned something about where they lived being revealed! Now, I'm not particularly sorry for the celebs in question, or most others for that matter, but the point is that if that sort of thing can happen to them, it can happen to private individuals as well - think stalkers, or troublesome gangs of local youths seeking revenge on someone who they suspect of reporting their activities to the police, etc, etc. |
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FredW wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:14:38 +0200, "s|b" wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:36:00 -0400, Stan Brown wrote: I'm sure this How-to Geek article won't change the minds of CCleaner lovers, but here it is: https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/cclean...pdating-users- who-turned-off-automatic-updates/ No silent updates on my end... My 5.40 portable (!) tried to phone home (never done before). It showed in my firewall (asking permission) and I blocked. End of CCleaner for me. Yeah, mine phoned home too. -- Quote of the Week: "Still we live meanly, like ants;... like pygmies we fight with cranes;... Our life is frittered away by detail. Simplify... simplify..." --Henry Thoreau Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / http://antfarm.ma.cx / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- | |o o| | ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / ( ) |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:57:26 -0400, Big Al wrote:
What version are you? 5.46 portable. I used Privatefirewall to block it though. Anyway, funny thing just happened when I turned on my PC. CCleaner apparently crashed and then Windows warned me my antivirus wasn't active. No panic, it happens sometimes.I use Avast Free Antivirus, so I clicked on the icon and got an option to restart the service. Didn't get to activate it until I noticed the (broken) icon of CCleaner in systray. I hovered over it with my mouse pointer, it disappeared and suddenly I was able to restart Avast... And yet, somehow I don't feel that safe anymore... :-o -- s|b |
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https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/cclean...matic-updates/ That links to "Here's What You Should Use Instead of CCleaner" at https://www.howtogeek.com/361112/her...d-of-ccleaner/ I'm late to the party, so I read this first: https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/ccleaner-is-silently-updating-users-who-turned-off-automatic-updates/ Which said: - Even if users opt out of automatic updates, they're happening anyway - Piriform is "gathering anonymized information about the user" - The way to tell is to check the version number - I just checked mine, which is not portable, which is "v5.39.6399" - The article says it happens at and after version 5.46 - Privacy settings revert to the default, which sends usage data The original forum thread discusses earlier versions having the problem, but the summary article fixes the problem at 5.46 and above. |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:12:19 -0400, Big Al wrote:
On 09/20/2018 09:31 AM, Wolf K wrote: I used to check FB 4 or*5*times*a*week,*now*it's*down*to*less*than*once *a*week. I'd say 10 years ago, I lived on FB. 8-10 hours playing games. My niece and nephew got me hooked on the games. I even bought FB money for investing in the games to buy those extras they entice you into. But alas I get on there once a week maybe. It's poor sort order and lack of a good feed anymore has driven me away. My wife and I both follow a lot of the same people and subjects and she is constantly asking me how I see a post she doesn't. I wouldn't cry if FB Died. I'd applaud. I have friends who get their 'news' only from FB. Yes, they're extremely misinformed, especially about current events and politics. I have friends who use FB to ask their contacts what kind of car they should buy, what they should eat and where they should go for lunch, what color shoes to wear with khaki shorts, and so on. I'd be happy to see the whole thing collapse in a heap. Oh, these are the same people who post a picture of every meal, as if to say, "Hey, look at me, I found food today!" Well, so did a lot of people. It's not exactly newsworthy. How about the people who didn't find food today? -- Char Jackson |
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