installing Windows 10 from 7

What do they mean "I can go back to Windows 7 within 30 days"?

What happens after that time? Point of no return?



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On 22/07/2016 21:32, Linea Recta wrote:
What do they mean "I can go back to Windows 7 within 30 days"?

What happens after that time? Point of no return?




It means exactly that. You can revert your machine to 7 if you decide
10 is too difficult for you to learn at your age. Microsoft creates an
ICON in Control Panel or Settings and you can click on it and in a few
hours time you'll be back to where you were before as if there is no
Windows 10 on your machine.

Now this is the theory but like everything, your intelligence and
ability comes into play as well so I would not rely on this as some of
your settings and programs may not run as expected in 7. If you are not
sure of running 10 permanently then you should considering imaging your
HD so that you can go back to 7 when you want it. Most stupid people
have done this here and your good friend called SteveGG (who knows
nothing about 10) will tell you exactly this.

We are all using 10 here and we can't go back to 7 or 8 or 8.1 because
10 is what we have and that is what we shall use forever.

why are you guys all so stupid not venturing into some new systems?
Mind boggles here.

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On 2016-07-22 16:32, Linea Recta wrote:
What do they mean "I can go back to Windows 7 within 30 days"?

You can revert to W7 using a utility built into W10 which will use
information about W7 stored when W10 was installed.

What happens after that time? Point of no return?

Yes, unless you've made an (bootable) image of your HDD, which is highly
recommended.



Of course I have imaged Windows 7, that's why I was puzzled by the mentioned
statement.

Now I have downloaded an iso file before 29th.
Do I actually have to install this before 29th, or can I put it on a shelf
for when I have time after this date?



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On 22/07/2016 22:24, Linea Recta wrote:

Now I have downloaded an iso file before 29th.
Do I actually have to install this before 29th, or can I put it on a
shelf for when I have time after this date?


No, you don't need to do anything. You have got an ISO which can now be
burned on a blank DVD and used as a nice coaster to put hot cup of tea
on. Everything will be alright for you.

Microsoft now knows that you have been a good boy but very stupid person
who has downloaded Windows 10 ISO. Please make sure you try installing
it AFTER 29th July. SteveGG says you should be OK with it.

Good luck.








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On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 22:32:27 +0100, Good Guy
wrote:

On 22/07/2016 22:24, Linea Recta wrote:

Now I have downloaded an iso file before 29th.
Do I actually have to install this before 29th, or can I put it on a
shelf for when I have time after this date?


No, you don't need to do anything. You have got an ISO which can now be
burned on a blank DVD and used as a nice coaster to put hot cup of tea
on. Everything will be alright for you.

Microsoft now knows that you have been a good boy but very stupid person
who has downloaded Windows 10 ISO. Please make sure you try installing
it AFTER 29th July. SteveGG says you should be OK with it.

Good luck.

Don't presume to speak for me.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:43:14 +0100, Good Guy
wrote:

On 22/07/2016 21:32, Linea Recta wrote:
What do they mean "I can go back to Windows 7 within 30 days"?

What happens after that time? Point of no return?




It means exactly that. You can revert your machine to 7 if you decide
10 is too difficult for you to learn at your age. Microsoft creates an
ICON in Control Panel or Settings and you can click on it and in a few
hours time you'll be back to where you were before as if there is no
Windows 10 on your machine.

Now this is the theory but like everything, your intelligence and
ability comes into play as well so I would not rely on this as some of
your settings and programs may not run as expected in 7. If you are not
sure of running 10 permanently then you should considering imaging your
HD so that you can go back to 7 when you want it. Most stupid people
have done this here and your good friend called SteveGG (who knows
nothing about 10) will tell you exactly this.

Don't presume to speak for me.

We are all using 10 here and we can't go back to 7 or 8 or 8.1 because
10 is what we have and that is what we shall use forever.

why are you guys all so stupid not venturing into some new systems?
Mind boggles here.

Linea Recta wrote:
What do they mean "I can go back to Windows 7 within 30 days"?

What happens after that time? Point of no return?

When you update from Windows 7, this is what happens

C:\Windows.old --- Windows 7 OS, plus deleted program folders
C:\Windows --- Windows 10 OS
C:\Program Files --- Your programs are kept, except for ones deemed
to not be compatible.

After 30 days, Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe)
deletes any C:\Windows.old it finds. I don't
know if there is any other state information about
it or not. It's a bit difficult to remove
C:\Windows.old yourself, whereas with CleanMgr
it is easy.

So the reason you have 30 days to revert, is
the CleanMgr policy of removing Windows.old.

If there is no Windows.old (20GB), there is nothing
to revive the old OS. Unless, of course, you made
a backup before this happened.

Paul

Linea Recta wrote:
What do they mean "I can go back to Windows 7 within 30 days"?

What happens after that time? Point of no return?

To add to the other comments:
There are two ways to go back to 7:
Let windows uninstall 10 and revert to 7 from the "old" files, assuming you "upgraded"
(downgraded, imo). Some / many of your apps may not work afterwards.
Overwrite 10 from your 7 image that you made before installing 10.
You can also clone 7 to another hdd and keep 10 for future use but you can't use both.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 23:24:31 +0200, Linea Recta wrote:

What do they mean "I can go back to Windows 7 within 30 days"?

You can revert to W7 using a utility built into W10 which will use
information about W7 stored when W10 was installed.

What happens after that time? Point of no return?

Yes, unless you've made an (bootable) image of your HDD, which is highly
recommended.



Of course I have imaged Windows 7, that's why I was puzzled by the mentioned
statement.

Now I have downloaded an iso file before 29th.
Do I actually have to install this before 29th, or can I put it on a shelf
for when I have time after this date?

You do have to install the update before the 29th to qualify, just
having the downloaded iso doesn't qualify you.

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Linea Recta wrote:
What do they mean "I can go back to Windows 7 within 30 days"?

What happens after that time? Point of no return?

To add to the other comments:
There are two ways to go back to 7:
Let windows uninstall 10 and revert to 7 from the "old" files, assuming
you "upgraded"
(downgraded, imo). Some / many of your apps may not work afterwards.

Yes, the "you only have 30 [or whatever] days to decide" only applies to
the folk (probably the majority, though not on here!) who _don't_ make
an image (or clone) before "up"grading.

Overwrite 10 from your 7 image that you made before installing 10.

(Obviously that can _always_ be done.)

You can also clone 7 to another hdd and keep 10 for future use but you
can't use both.

(You mean you can't dual-boot? I hadn't thought of trying, but it
doesn't surprise me.)

With the cheapness of disks these days, I'm wondering: in cases where
there is room (i. e. not most laptops), how practical would it be to
install a mechanical switch between two drives? Obviously one would have
to reboot, and it probably would be best to switch with the power off
altogether, but are the signals of such a nature that a switch would
corrupt them? I'm just thinking it would be easier (and less wear on the
connectors, which aren't designed for many cycles) than physically
changing drives.
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 23:24:31 +0200, Linea Recta wrote:

What do they mean "I can go back to Windows 7 within 30 days"?

You can revert to W7 using a utility built into W10 which will use
information about W7 stored when W10 was installed.

What happens after that time? Point of no return?

Yes, unless you've made an (bootable) image of your HDD, which is highly
recommended.



Of course I have imaged Windows 7, that's why I was puzzled by the
mentioned
statement.

Now I have downloaded an iso file before 29th.
Do I actually have to install this before 29th, or can I put it on a shelf
for when I have time after this date?

You do have to install the update before the 29th to qualify, just
having the downloaded iso doesn't qualify you.

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and built in 5 years;
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OK thanks, I'll give it a go.



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Linea Recta wrote:
What do they mean "I can go back to Windows 7 within 30 days"?

What happens after that time? Point of no return?

When you update from Windows 7, this is what happens

C:\Windows.old --- Windows 7 OS, plus deleted program folders
C:\Windows --- Windows 10 OS
C:\Program Files --- Your programs are kept, except for ones deemed
to not be compatible.

After 30 days, Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe)
deletes any C:\Windows.old it finds. I don't
know if there is any other state information about
it or not. It's a bit difficult to remove
C:\Windows.old yourself, whereas with CleanMgr
it is easy.

So the reason you have 30 days to revert, is
the CleanMgr policy of removing Windows.old.

If there is no Windows.old (20GB), there is nothing
to revive the old OS. Unless, of course, you made
a backup before this happened.

Paul



Thanks. I'll try a clean install.



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On 22/07/2016 21:32, Linea Recta wrote:

why are you guys all so stupid not venturing into some new systems?

I have a hammer I bought in 1943. It still works.

Regardless of "if it ain't broke don't fix it", I am using Win10. I don't
like it even though it now looks and acts much like my previous Win8 which
looked and acted much like my even more previous Win XP.

Over and above its spying nature, I don't like it because it has been a real
PITA to get it to what I consider to be functional. I don't like it because
MS has removed many things that were useful in personalizing a computer. I
don't like it because, basically, it is Microsoft's latest bloated effort to
create an OS that even the most non-thinking cretin can use to send email
and browse...sort of like a big phone.

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What do they mean "I can go back to Windows 7 within 30 days"?

What happens after that time? Point of no return?



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I've heard rolling back doesn't always go well, so I used Macrium Reflect
(free) to image my W7. Then I "upgraded", checked it out for a couple days,
made an image of W10, and restored my W7. I will say 10 was very fast.
Everything worked but I thought it was ugly. That aside, I might have kept
it if it weren't for the data mining. Anyway, my rollback method worked
quite well. :-)

On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 22:32:59 +0200, "Linea Recta"
wrote:

What do they mean "I can go back to Windows 7 within 30 days"?

What happens after that time? Point of no return?



No. That statement is misleading. You can go back to Windows 7 any
time you want to. *However* after 30 days, you have to do it by a
clean installation from the original media.