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Old January 16th 19, 09:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Jason
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Default Temperature of CPU?

I am processing movies and the CPU is indicating
100%.

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?
Peter
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Old January 16th 19, 09:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Peter Jason wrote:

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?


You need to install HWmonitor, SpeedFan, or another similar utility.
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Old January 16th 19, 09:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 1/16/2019 3:30 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
I am processing movies and the CPU is indicating
100%.

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?
Peter

I use the Core Temp program found at;

https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
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Old January 16th 19, 09:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Peter Jason wrote:
I am processing movies and the CPU is indicating
100%.

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?
Peter


Does your MB or CPU have the built in temp sensors that can be
monitored?

I use Core Temp. Also, my Nvidia software can track CPU and GPU
and the MB has 9 temp sensors that track temps.

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Old January 16th 19, 10:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 21:33:53 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

You need to install HWmonitor, SpeedFan, or another similar utility.


I had a temperature problem years ago, where, in my installation software
archive are these five utilities under "temperature" (although not all seem
to be "temperature" utilities)...
1. CPU-Z
2. GeekBench4
3. GPU-Z
4. Sandra
5. SpeedFan

Of those, the SpeedFan seems most straightforward.
Here's my ad-hoc installation log file for "SpeedFan".

SpeedFan 4.52 (May 2017)
Saved in: C:\installers\hardware\cpu\speedfan
http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php

Select components to install
[x]Main program (required)
[x]Create Program Group
[x]Create Desktop Shortcut
Space required: 8.9MB

Default = C:\Program Files (x86)\SpeedFan
Actual = C:\app\hardware\cpu\speedfan
- (DEBUG) OS is Windows 10.0
- OS is Windows 10
- Running under WOW64
- You've got administrative privileges
- Running under WOW64
- Copying AMD64 service
- SpeedFan service installed into service database
- SpeedFan service start type is currently set to demand
- SpeedFan service start type properly set to AUTOMATIC
- SpeedFan service properly started
- Program files properly created
- Program group properly created
- Desktop shortcut properly created
- Uninstaller properly created
Completed

It does not seem to phone home (AFAIK).

Desktop Shortcut Target: C:\app\hardware\cpu\speedfan\speedfan.exe
It has 6 tabs but I think the only tab that is useful is "Readings".
1. Readings
2. Clock
3. Info
4. Exotics
5. S.M.A.R.T.
6. Charts

In "Readings", you'll see the speeds in RPM and temperature in deg C.
Fan1: x RPM
Fan2: x RPM
Fan3: x RPM

GPU Temp1: x C
GPU Temp2: x C
GPU Temp3: x C

HD1 Temp: x C
HD0 Temp: x C
HD2 Temp: x C

Core Temp: x C

Each of those are explained when you hit the "Configure" button.
Hitting Configure brings up a dozen tabs, only the first of which is
useful.
1. Temperatures
2. Fans
3. Voltages
4. Speeds
5. Fan Control
6. Options
7. Log
8. Advanced
9. Events
10. Internet
12. Mail
12. xAP
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Old January 16th 19, 10:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Temperature of CPU?

Peter Jason wrote:
I am processing movies and the CPU is indicating
100%.

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?
Peter


You can see the Speedfan chart here, of CPU core temperatures.

https://s28.postimg.org/ve04pgfl9/prime95_test.gif

http://almico.com/speedfan452.exe

If the GPU is doing the movie encoding (NVenc), you
can use GPU-z to chart the video card temperature. Both
AMD and NVidia cards have video encoder and decoder blocks,
but a limited number of them. They're also limited on
what CODECs they support. Encoding a movie won't drive
a video card to as high a temperature as this test case would.
Video encoding by card, only uses a tiny fraction
of the card.

https://i.postimg.cc/85cZzPxf/furmark.jpg

https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4452-gpu-z.html

Paul
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Old January 17th 19, 12:42 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"GlowingBlueMist" wrote in message ...

On 1/16/2019 3:30 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
I am processing movies and the CPU is indicating
100%.

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?
Peter

I use the Core Temp program found at;

https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/


You may not use the F° option but if you look you will see that the temps in
the Min/Max columns are reversed. Looks okay when the C° option is
selected.

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Old January 17th 19, 04:58 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 08:30:32 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

I am processing movies and the CPU is indicating
100%.

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?


Speccy tells me that my Intel Core i5 4690 is sitting on 37 C




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Old January 17th 19, 05:17 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Paul wrote:
Peter Jason wrote:
I am processing movies and the CPU is indicating
100%.

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?
Peter


You can see the Speedfan chart here, of CPU core temperatures.

https://s28.postimg.org/ve04pgfl9/prime95_test.gif

http://almico.com/speedfan452.exe

If the GPU is doing the movie encoding (NVenc), you
can use GPU-z to chart the video card temperature. Both
AMD and NVidia cards have video encoder and decoder blocks,
but a limited number of them. They're also limited on
what CODECs they support. Encoding a movie won't drive
a video card to as high a temperature as this test case would.
Video encoding by card, only uses a tiny fraction
of the card.

https://i.postimg.cc/85cZzPxf/furmark.jpg

https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4452-gpu-z.html

Paul


Forgot to change the .org to .cc . The CPU only managed 46C under load,
not really all that impressive. And at low temperatures, the error
bars on Core Temps are pretty big. Your dollar store thermometer would
do a better job. The closer to the throttle temperature, the more
accurate the Core Temp sensors. If it was reading 99C, it might then
be +/-1C. At lower temps, it can be off by a fair amount, and
some cores will appear to run "sub-ambient" while idle.

https://s28.postimg.cc/ve04pgfl9/prime95_test.gif

Paul
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Old January 17th 19, 05:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Temperature of CPU?

Peter Jason wrote in
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I am processing movies and the CPU is indicating
100%.

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?
Peter


My AMD A10 APU came with a monitor program, and one of the options is
reading the sensors, voltages, and fan speeds.

Just a word of warning: with any of these programs, if the temp displayed
looks totally outragious in either direction, it is probably bogus. Not all
motherboards and/or cpus implement temperature sensors in the standard way.
If you didn't get a monitor program with your CPU (check the vendor support
page, it may be there) try several of the listed programs in the following
posts and take the consensus. Once you find one that seems to be accurate,
stick with it.
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Old January 17th 19, 02:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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pjp wrote:
In article ,
lid says...
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 08:30:32 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

I am processing movies and the CPU is indicating
100%.

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?

Speccy tells me that my Intel Core i5 4690 is sitting on 37 C


Seeing as we are talking about temps.

I use an external usb cable allows me to connect either IDE or Sata
drive to it and it shows up as a removable disk same as any other
external. I have more than a few hard disks sit on a shelve I use for
various purposes mostly arching data.

One 1Tb drive gets very warm, I'd actually say hot in fact. I've seen it
over 60 degrees C without doing anything but plugged in. Drive operates
normally without any funny noises or anything like that. SMART data
indicates nothing amiss with the drive. I can leave it plugged in
overnight and nothing seems changed in it's behaviour, e.g. it works as
expected.

Any thoughts?


With your clamp-on DC ammeter, you'd check which rail
has abnormal power consumption. A high +5V consumption
would mean a problem with the controller board. A high +12V
could be a motor problem.

With an infrared camera, you'd check the thermal profile and
see if you can determine where the heat originates.

A dry motor bearing could cause increased friction. Normally,
there would be sound effects to go with it. Maybe a "squeak"
at startup or shutdown. And the high temperature of the drive,
will work to evaporate fluid from the motor bearing, so the
high drive temperature only accelerates the failure mechanism.

The controller board has a three-phase motor controller chip.
It converts DC at 12V, into sine-like waves to drive the
three phases on the motor. This is intended to reduce "torque
ripple" in the rotation of the platter. If the motor has high
friction, eventually the motor IC will hit its current
limit, and some stunted waveform will be fed to the coils.
This could cause more "hum" than normal. If the IC gets
hot enough while doing this, it should shut off.

The controller board has two surge arrestors. One across +5V
and one across +12V. A failure of one of those could draw
excess DC current. Those can be found on occasion, to be
burned to a crisp (due to abuse they've suffered from
a bad power supply). Those should be nearer the power
connector on the controller board. Surge arrestors are
needed to support "hot swap" while current is still
flowing.

You could have a short circuit in the 15 pin SATA power, but
it's unlikely the thermal output would travel all the way
to the drive casing. The connector could burn up. There are
some power supplies with flaky "compressed fit" power connectors
on the cabling. I haven't seen a root cause (a picture of
an undamaged one), to understand how that is happening.
If it was a tin whisker, the PSU could likely blow it out
and remove it.

Anything that's "driven" by a silicon chip, is likely
to have some sort of power limiter for device safety.
And if the power is that high, some part of the drive
could shut off, as a hint how high it's getting.

One of the reasons there would be an incentive for a motor
controller design to check, is some Maxtor drives in the past,
the motor controller was poorly made and it ran hot all the
time. And those chips could burn out from the stress,
which suggested at the time that they had no protection
on their outputs at all. If they used a "Class D" approach,
there's no particular reason the chip has to be boiling
hot all the time.

There have been a few cases, where components on computer
motherboards got hot enough to melt the solder, and then
if the machine receives a "bump", the component "floating"
in its solder can get bumped off the pad it sits on. I'm not
aware of any hard drives having circuits similar to those :-)
The root cause there, was regulators designed as linear
regulators, using an opamp and MOSFET pass transistor, and
such circuits have little in the way of protection features.
They've stopped doing that. It was a "P4 era" thing. And
there was at least one Asus motherboard, where a certain
tiny regulator on the board, ran at "100C" all the time
as its normal operating condition. Someone spotted that
with a thermal camera, on some Athlon motherboard.

Paul
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Old January 17th 19, 10:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Jason
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 05:50:57 GMT, Tim
wrote:

Peter Jason wrote in
:

I am processing movies and the CPU is indicating
100%.

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?
Peter


My AMD A10 APU came with a monitor program, and one of the options is
reading the sensors, voltages, and fan speeds.

Just a word of warning: with any of these programs, if the temp displayed
looks totally outragious in either direction, it is probably bogus. Not all
motherboards and/or cpus implement temperature sensors in the standard way.
If you didn't get a monitor program with your CPU (check the vendor support
page, it may be there) try several of the listed programs in the following
posts and take the consensus. Once you find one that seems to be accurate,
stick with it.


Thank you everyone. I'm trying "Core Temp 1.13"
for a while.
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Old January 18th 19, 12:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Peter Jason" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 05:50:57 GMT, Tim
wrote:

Peter Jason wrote in
m:

I am processing movies and the CPU is indicating
100%.

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?
Peter


My AMD A10 APU came with a monitor program, and one of the options is
reading the sensors, voltages, and fan speeds.

Just a word of warning: with any of these programs, if the temp displayed
looks totally outragious in either direction, it is probably bogus. Not
all
motherboards and/or cpus implement temperature sensors in the standard
way.
If you didn't get a monitor program with your CPU (check the vendor
support
page, it may be there) try several of the listed programs in the following
posts and take the consensus. Once you find one that seems to be accurate,
stick with it.


Thank you everyone. I'm trying "Core Temp 1.13"
for a while.


Of all the ones listed, I like Core Temp the best. I don't know if it's the
MB or CPU sensors, but my Athlon X4 845 (and a previous AMD CPU) has always
shown it idling at 0C. Now, I know that can't be right :-( Core Temp allows
an offset to be put in to adjust for temp correction. A number of articles
say this CPU idles at ~26C, so I put that in as an offset and everything
appears to be normal, or at least closer to what I'd expect.

I have overheat protection set in UEFI and in Core Temp, and have yet to
have it shut down, so I have to assume the offset is at least close to
correct :-)
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Old January 23rd 19, 09:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 08:30:32 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

I am processing movies and the CPU is indicating
100%.

Where can I see the temperature of the CPU?
Peter



I followed the suggestions and discovered that my CPU is running at
99C Is this good? bad? or indifferent?

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