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Old February 11th 19, 03:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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Default Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
Full story:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/09/08/microsoft-windows-7-monthly-charge-windows-10-free-upgrade-cost/#1bfa5ed12db1

Microsoft MSFT +0.44% has always described Windows 10 “as a service” and
leaks have already revealed new monthly charges are coming. Of course,
for Windows 7 owners this was never something they expected to pay. But
times change…

In a new blog post entitled “Helping customers shift to a modern
desktop”, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start charging
Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020, if they want
to keep their computers safe.

If this date rings a bell, that’s because it is the day Microsoft will
end ‘Extended Support’ for Windows 7 according to the company’s
Lifecycle page. This means no more patches or security updates unless,
as we now learn, you pay. Furthermore, Microsoft says it will increase
the cost of this every year.

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Old February 11th 19, 03:11 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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Default Microsoft's Windows 7 Extended Support Pricing Announced

Microsoft's Windows 7 Extended Support Pricing Announced
Full story:
https://www.petri.com/microsofts-windows-7-extended-support-pricing-announced

With less than a year of support for Windows 7, Microsoft has begun
heavily pushing Microsoft 365 and other programs that they hope will
entice customers who have yet to migrate. But for those who have not
made the move or plan on sticking with Windows 7, pricing for extended
support has been announced.

As with the previous version of Windows, pricing will double each year
after the expiration of public support for the operating system. Pricing
is listed below:

Windows 7 Extended Security Updates

* Year 1 (January 2020 through January 2021): Windows 7 Pro is $50 per
device, Windows Enterprise (add-on) is $25 per device.
* Year 2 (January 2021 through January 2022): Windows 7 Pro is $100 per
device, Windows Enterprise (add-on) is $50 per device.
* Year 3 (January 2022 through January 2023): Windows 7 Pro is $200 per
device, Windows Enterprise (add-on) is $100 per device.

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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
Full story:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/09/08/microsoft-windows-7-monthly-charge-windows-10-free-upgrade-cost/#1bfa5ed12db1

Microsoft MSFT +0.44% has always described Windows 10 oas a service and
leaks have already revealed new monthly charges are coming. Of course,
for Windows 7 owners this was never something they expected to pay. But
times change

In a new blog post entitled oHelping customers shift to a modern
desktop , Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start charging
Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020, if they want
to keep their computers safe.

If this date rings a bell, that Ts because it is the day Microsoft will
end ~Extended Support T for Windows 7 according to the company Ts
Lifecycle page. This means no more patches or security updates unless,
as we now learn, you pay. Furthermore, Microsoft says it will increase
the cost of this every year.

.... more ....




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Old February 11th 19, 05:36 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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Default Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

On 2/11/19 8:00 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

[snip]

In a new blog post entitled “Helping customers shift to a modern
desktop”, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start charging
Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020, if they want
to keep their computers safe.


This SHOULD refer to security updates, not permission to use the OS.

[snip[

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Old February 12th 19, 01:33 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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Default Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

pjp wrote in
:

In article , lid
says...

On 2/11/19 8:00 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

[snip]

In a new blog post entitled ?Helping customers shift to a modern
desktop?, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start
charging Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020,
if they want to keep their computers safe.


This SHOULD refer to security updates, not permission to use the OS.

[snip[


When I became a beta tester for 98 I once stated it was MS's intent to
eventually charge for everytime you use their software. That's what
Bill Gates once said a long time ago, e.g. he was entitled for payment
everytime you used the software and not just the once when purchased.
It's MS's intent to force the industry into this model wether it best
for their customers or not.

Want to use Word for an hour, that'll be $1.00 please, tack on another
dollar for "whatever". etc. etc. they'll nickel and dime us to death.

Sorry but FUC*K THAT.

I don't usually comment on the validity of a post, but what we have here
is an example of a response being fired off after mis/not reading the
original post and not doing any kind of research on the validity of the
content. As [email protected], stated, the proposed charge is if a user still
running Windows 7 wants to continue to receive security updates, they
will have to pay for it, since Windows 7 is about five versions back or
so, if one counts the semiannual updates of Windows 10 as new versions.
If Microsoft really tried to bill for the continued use of Windows 7
intself it would be violating its own Terms of Use, and would more than
likely face a raft of lawsuits from corporate users still using the
platform. Microsoft has fully depreciated the capital cost of Windows 7
and its term of support, and has no legal basis to start charging a user
fee for continued use. But it would be interesting to see them try it.
  #7  
Old February 12th 19, 02:15 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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Default Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

On 2/11/2019 3:13 PM, pjp wrote:
In article , lid says...

On 2/11/19 8:00 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

[snip]

In a new blog post entitled ?Helping customers shift to a modern
desktop?, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start charging
Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020, if they want
to keep their computers safe.


This SHOULD refer to security updates, not permission to use the OS.

[snip[


When I became a beta tester for 98 I once stated it was MS's intent to
eventually charge for everytime you use their software. That's what Bill
Gates once said a long time ago, e.g. he was entitled for payment
everytime you used the software and not just the once when purchased.
It's MS's intent to force the industry into this model wether it best
for their customers or not.

Want to use Word for an hour, that'll be $1.00 please, tack on another
dollar for "whatever". etc. etc. they'll nickel and dime us to death.

Sorry but FUC*K THAT.

It's inevitable.
The cellphone model already does that.
Want data? No problem. Fork over $40 a line for
4 lines and get lotsa data, whether you use it or not.
Somebody has to pay for that Superbowl commercial.

Linux has not offered a viable alternative for the desktop.
Android has the phone market.
  #8  
Old February 12th 19, 02:24 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mike
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Default Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

On 2/11/2019 4:33 PM, lonelydad wrote:
pjp wrote in
:

In article , lid
says...

On 2/11/19 8:00 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

[snip]

In a new blog post entitled ?Helping customers shift to a modern
desktop?, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start
charging Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020,
if they want to keep their computers safe.

This SHOULD refer to security updates, not permission to use the OS.

[snip[


When I became a beta tester for 98 I once stated it was MS's intent to
eventually charge for everytime you use their software. That's what
Bill Gates once said a long time ago, e.g. he was entitled for payment
everytime you used the software and not just the once when purchased.
It's MS's intent to force the industry into this model wether it best
for their customers or not.

Want to use Word for an hour, that'll be $1.00 please, tack on another
dollar for "whatever". etc. etc. they'll nickel and dime us to death.

Sorry but FUC*K THAT.

I don't usually comment on the validity of a post, but what we have here
is an example of a response being fired off after mis/not reading the
original post and not doing any kind of research on the validity of the
content. As [email protected], stated, the proposed charge is if a user still
running Windows 7 wants to continue to receive security updates, they
will have to pay for it, since Windows 7 is about five versions back or
so, if one counts the semiannual updates of Windows 10 as new versions.
If Microsoft really tried to bill for the continued use of Windows 7
intself it would be violating its own Terms of Use, and would more than
likely face a raft of lawsuits from corporate users still using the
platform. Microsoft has fully depreciated the capital cost of Windows 7
and its term of support, and has no legal basis to start charging a user
fee for continued use. But it would be interesting to see them try it.

They're already doing it.
They're dropping support.
They're changing stuff so that it won't run on win7.
Hardware and software vendors won't continue support indefinitely.
Office 365.
YOU will be running win10 eventually, at least for stuff that requires it...
or you'll do without that capability.

There's enough business usage to support MS. Non-business apps
guarantee a supply of workers that know how to use MS products
and business can't justify the training required to move to linux,
except in specific tightly controlled environments.

It will be interesting to see how business reacts when new recruits
have no computer experience beyond twitter.
  #9  
Old February 12th 19, 02:27 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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Default Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

In article , Mike
wrote:

Want to use Word for an hour, that'll be $1.00 please, tack on another
dollar for "whatever". etc. etc. they'll nickel and dime us to death.

Sorry but FUC*K THAT.

It's inevitable.


it is not.

The cellphone model already does that.


it does not.

Want data? No problem. Fork over $40 a line for
4 lines and get lotsa data, whether you use it or not.


wifi at home and/or work is free, as are most public wifi hotspots. get
a pay for what you use data plan for the phone, or none at all if
rarely away from wifi.

Somebody has to pay for that Superbowl commercial.


not relevant.

Linux has not offered a viable alternative for the desktop.


yep.

Android has the phone market.


as does ios.
  #10  
Old February 12th 19, 02:49 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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Default Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

On 2/11/19 5:15 PM, Mike wrote:
Linux*has*not*offered*a*viable*alternative* for*the*desktop.


Actually Linux Desktop are a wonderful substitute from Windows.
I run my shop on Fedora Xfce and am tickled with it.

What keep folks away is that Linux does not have but about 5%
of the application base as Windows, if that.

  #11  
Old February 12th 19, 03:08 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

In article ,
says...

pjp wrote in
:

In article ,
lid
says...

On 2/11/19 8:00 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

[snip]

In a new blog post entitled ?Helping customers shift to a modern
desktop?, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start
charging Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020,
if they want to keep their computers safe.

This SHOULD refer to security updates, not permission to use the OS.

[snip[


When I became a beta tester for 98 I once stated it was MS's intent to
eventually charge for everytime you use their software. That's what
Bill Gates once said a long time ago, e.g. he was entitled for payment
everytime you used the software and not just the once when purchased.
It's MS's intent to force the industry into this model wether it best
for their customers or not.

Want to use Word for an hour, that'll be $1.00 please, tack on another
dollar for "whatever". etc. etc. they'll nickel and dime us to death.

Sorry but FUC*K THAT.

I don't usually comment on the validity of a post, but what we have here
is an example of a response being fired off after mis/not reading the
original post and not doing any kind of research on the validity of the
content. As [email protected], stated, the proposed charge is if a user still
running Windows 7 wants to continue to receive security updates, they
will have to pay for it, since Windows 7 is about five versions back or
so, if one counts the semiannual updates of Windows 10 as new versions.
If Microsoft really tried to bill for the continued use of Windows 7
intself it would be violating its own Terms of Use, and would more than
likely face a raft of lawsuits from corporate users still using the
platform. Microsoft has fully depreciated the capital cost of Windows 7
and its term of support, and has no legal basis to start charging a user
fee for continued use. But it would be interesting to see them try it.


And my response is still that it's MS's long term "plan" to charge to
use and never "own" anything. Win7 and security updates is just the
first of many to come.

And my take is "the product clearly had defects when it was "sold" to me
otherwise there'd be no need for fixes" therefore they are obligated to
fix any and all problems for "eternity". If not then they should be
legally obligated to release the source code to public domain so others
can instead.
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Old February 12th 19, 03:26 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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Default Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

In article , pjp
wrote:

I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire.
Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an
hour away.


you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all.

https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...ifi-distance-r
ecord-237-miles/
WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher
Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382
kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan Andes
  #15  
Old February 12th 19, 03:38 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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Default Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

On 02/11/2019 8:26 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , pjp
wrote:

I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire.
Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an
hour away.


you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all.

https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...ifi-distance-r
ecord-237-miles/
WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher
Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382
kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan Andes


He certainly is NOT the lone exception, Myself, My son and at least two
friends do not own and will probably never buy a cell phone.

Rene


 




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