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  #16  
Old February 12th 19, 03:45 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire.
Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an
hour away.


you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all.

https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...ifi-distance-r
ecord-237-miles/
WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher
Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382
kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan Andes


He certainly is NOT the lone exception, Myself, My son and at least two
friends do not own and will probably never buy a cell phone.


meanwhile, more than 2 *billion* smartphones are in use.
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Old February 12th 19, 04:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire.
Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an
hour away.
you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all.

https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...ifi-distance-r
ecord-237-miles/
WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher
Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382
kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan Andes

He certainly is NOT the lone exception, Myself, My son and at least two
friends do not own and will probably never buy a cell phone.


meanwhile, more than 2 *billion* smartphones are in use.


In areas where the infrastructure is different and
there are fewer choices.

Just recently, two Indian brothers got into a price war
on telecommunications services, until one of the brothers
declared bankruptcy. And that's a place you'd want
that cell of yours. That kind of price war isn't coming
here any time soon.

I don't own a cellphone/smartphone either. I do use VOIP,
because it's cheaper than the $55 per month they expect
here for a landline.

Paul
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Old February 12th 19, 04:30 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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T wrote:
On 2/11/19 6:11 PM, pjp wrote:
In article , lid says...

On 2/11/19 5:15 PM, Mike wrote:
Linux has not offered a viable alternative for the desktop.

Actually Linux Desktop are a wonderful substitute from Windows.
I run my shop on Fedora Xfce and am tickled with it.

What keep folks away is that Linux does not have but about 5%
of the application base as Windows, if that.


I have always felt if Linux had games equal to Windows would do it.


There is always Wine, but it is not for the faint of heart.


So WINE ("Wine Is Not an Emulator") spits out a few warnings.

What's not to like ?

Since the executables don't have access to the
physical layer on disk drives, commercial software
attempting to write license patterns in places they
shouldn't, are blocked.

It's the same for Bash shell in Windows 10. It's
denied the usage of /dev, which limits things
you can do with it. That's the price you pay for
compatibility layers. They have to be made a tiny
bit hack-resistant.

WINE access ~/.wine/Drive_C/ or similar, and your
C drive is underneath that point. There is a mechanism
to fake a registry. There is a copy of Notepad and
possibly Regedit for your amusement.

Bash shell accesses your C drive as /mnt/c and
your Windows home would be /mnt/c/users/username.
Attempts from Win10 Bash shell, to access /dev/sda
will fail.

Paul
  #20  
Old February 12th 19, 05:12 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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Rene Lamontagne wrote in news:gceptmFsntaU1
@mid.individual.net:

On 02/11/2019 8:26 PM, nospam wrote:
In article ,

pjp
wrote:

I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor

desire.
Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an
hour away.


you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all.

https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...-set-new-wifi-

distance-r
ecord-237-miles/
WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher
Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382
kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan

Andes


He certainly is NOT the lone exception, Myself, My son and at least two
friends do not own and will probably never buy a cell phone.

Rene



My cell phone is a Tracfone with a pay as you go setup. I hardly ever use
it myself, except when my son calls, or I am calling for the taxi. I have
an adroid tablet that is always with me that I use as a super DayTimer,
wifi only. Works for me.
  #21  
Old February 12th 19, 05:15 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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On 02/11/2019 8:45 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire.
Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an
hour away.

you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all.

https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...ifi-distance-r
ecord-237-miles/
WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher
Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382
kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan Andes


He certainly is NOT the lone exception, Myself, My son and at least two
friends do not own and will probably never buy a cell phone.


meanwhile, more than 2 *billion* smartphones are in use.


That brings up a great experience I just had (not).

1. About four days ago I went to a doctors appointment and Clearly
printed on 2 large signs "please turn off cellphones when entering this
office", Guess what? I counted 5 people texting or talking on their cell
phones.

2. From there I had to go to the hospital for some tests, so after
those were done I decided to go to their cafeteria and have lunch, as I
was sitting there having lunch I see a young lady at the microwave oven
banks put there for Staff and visitors to warm up lunches brought from
home, She was trying to set up 2 microwave ovens to heat 2 different
dishes while at the same time trying to hold and talk on her cellphone
with her none existent 3rd hand and ended up spilling one dish as she
tried holding the phone between her shoulder and ear.

3. As if that wasn't enough, on the way home I stopped at Safeway to
pick up a few grocery's, And going down one Aisle found it rather
blocked by 32 ladies standing in the middle with not enough room for me
to pass, I said excuse me could I pass through here twice before they
moved, they where oblivious of their surroundings, I carried on with my
shopping and a couple aisles further another lady walked full tilt into
me texting on her phone as I was standing still looking for an item.

And you wonder why I don't own or use a cursed cellphone and be lumped
in with all these Idiots?

Not a chance in Hell.

Rene



  #23  
Old February 12th 19, 05:25 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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On 02/11/2019 10:15 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 02/11/2019 8:45 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire.
Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an
hour away.

you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all.

https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...ifi-distance-r

ecord-237-miles/
¬*¬*¬* WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher
¬*¬*¬* Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382
¬*¬*¬* kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan
Andes

He certainly is NOT the lone exception, Myself, My son and at least two
friends do not own and will probably never buy a cell phone.


meanwhile, more than 2 *billion* smartphones are in use.


That brings up a great experience I just had (not).

¬*1. About four days ago I went to a doctors appointment and Clearly
printed on 2 large signs "please turn off cellphones when entering this
office", Guess what? I counted 5 people texting or talking on their cell
phones.

¬*2. From there I had to go to the hospital for some tests, so after
those were done I decided to go to their cafeteria and have lunch, as I
was sitting there having lunch I see a young lady at the microwave oven
banks put there for Staff and visitors to warm up lunches brought from
home, She was trying to set up 2 microwave ovens to heat 2 different
dishes while at the same time trying to hold and talk on her cellphone
with her none existent 3rd hand and ended up spilling one dish as she
tried holding the phone between her shoulder and ear.

¬*3. As if that wasn't enough, on the way home I stopped at Safeway to
pick up a few grocery's, And going down one Aisle found it rather
blocked by 32 ladies standing in the middle with not enough room for me
to pass, I said excuse me could I pass through here twice before they
moved, they where oblivious of their surroundings, I carried on with my
shopping and a couple aisles further another lady walked full tilt into
me texting on her phone as I was standing still looking for an item.

And you wonder why I don't own or use a cursed cellphone and be lumped
in with all these Idiots?

Not a chance in Hell.

Rene




Error- 2 ladies Not 32... Big fingers = poor typing

Rene

  #24  
Old February 12th 19, 05:29 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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Default Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:


That brings up a great experience I just had (not).

1. About four days ago I went to a doctors appointment and Clearly
printed on 2 large signs "please turn off cellphones when entering this
office", Guess what? I counted 5 people texting or talking on their cell
phones.

2. From there I had to go to the hospital for some tests, so after
those were done I decided to go to their cafeteria and have lunch, as I
was sitting there having lunch I see a young lady at the microwave oven
banks put there for Staff and visitors to warm up lunches brought from
home, She was trying to set up 2 microwave ovens to heat 2 different
dishes while at the same time trying to hold and talk on her cellphone
with her none existent 3rd hand and ended up spilling one dish as she
tried holding the phone between her shoulder and ear.

3. As if that wasn't enough, on the way home I stopped at Safeway to
pick up a few grocery's, And going down one Aisle found it rather
blocked by 32 ladies standing in the middle with not enough room for me
to pass, I said excuse me could I pass through here twice before they
moved, they where oblivious of their surroundings, I carried on with my
shopping and a couple aisles further another lady walked full tilt into
me texting on her phone as I was standing still looking for an item.

And you wonder why I don't own or use a cursed cellphone and be lumped
in with all these Idiots?


just because a few people are oblivious to their surroundings doesn't
mean everyone is.
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Old February 12th 19, 05:34 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 12/02/2019 03.08, pjp wrote:
And my take is "the product clearly had defects when it was "sold" to me
otherwise there'd be no need for fixes" therefore they are obligated to
fix any and all problems for "eternity". If not then they should be
legally obligated to release the source code to public domain so others
can instead.


It was sold "as is".

--
Cheers, Carlos.
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Old February 12th 19, 05:38 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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On 02/11/2019 10:29 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:


That brings up a great experience I just had (not).

1. About four days ago I went to a doctors appointment and Clearly
printed on 2 large signs "please turn off cellphones when entering this
office", Guess what? I counted 5 people texting or talking on their cell
phones.

2. From there I had to go to the hospital for some tests, so after
those were done I decided to go to their cafeteria and have lunch, as I
was sitting there having lunch I see a young lady at the microwave oven
banks put there for Staff and visitors to warm up lunches brought from
home, She was trying to set up 2 microwave ovens to heat 2 different
dishes while at the same time trying to hold and talk on her cellphone
with her none existent 3rd hand and ended up spilling one dish as she
tried holding the phone between her shoulder and ear.

3. As if that wasn't enough, on the way home I stopped at Safeway to
pick up a few grocery's, And going down one Aisle found it rather
blocked by 32 ladies standing in the middle with not enough room for me
to pass, I said excuse me could I pass through here twice before they
moved, they where oblivious of their surroundings, I carried on with my
shopping and a couple aisles further another lady walked full tilt into
me texting on her phone as I was standing still looking for an item.

And you wonder why I don't own or use a cursed cellphone and be lumped
in with all these Idiots?


just because a few people are oblivious to their surroundings doesn't
mean everyone is.



Didn't say "all"

8 in one day is a helluva lot more than a few
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Old February 12th 19, 05:45 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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Default Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

That brings up a great experience I just had (not).

1. About four days ago I went to a doctors appointment and Clearly
printed on 2 large signs "please turn off cellphones when entering this
office", Guess what? I counted 5 people texting or talking on their cell
phones.

2. From there I had to go to the hospital for some tests, so after
those were done I decided to go to their cafeteria and have lunch, as I
was sitting there having lunch I see a young lady at the microwave oven
banks put there for Staff and visitors to warm up lunches brought from
home, She was trying to set up 2 microwave ovens to heat 2 different
dishes while at the same time trying to hold and talk on her cellphone
with her none existent 3rd hand and ended up spilling one dish as she
tried holding the phone between her shoulder and ear.

3. As if that wasn't enough, on the way home I stopped at Safeway to
pick up a few grocery's, And going down one Aisle found it rather
blocked by 32 ladies standing in the middle with not enough room for me
to pass, I said excuse me could I pass through here twice before they
moved, they where oblivious of their surroundings, I carried on with my
shopping and a couple aisles further another lady walked full tilt into
me texting on her phone as I was standing still looking for an item.

And you wonder why I don't own or use a cursed cellphone and be lumped
in with all these Idiots?


just because a few people are oblivious to their surroundings doesn't
mean everyone is.


Didn't say "all"

8 in one day is a helluva lot more than a few


out of 2 billion who use smartphones, no, and you can't extrapolate
from just one day either. how many days did nothing happen? how many
people were using phones and you didn't even notice?
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Old February 12th 19, 07:12 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 22:19:49 -0500, Paul wrote:

I don't own a cellphone/smartphone either. I do use VOIP,
because it's cheaper than the $55 per month they expect
here for a landline.


$55...yikes, someone must be very proud of their telco offering.

As for VoIP being cheaper, I assume you mean free (after acquiring a
VoIP adapter). Google Voice is still free and works pretty well,
although individual calls are limited to 3 hours.

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Old February 12th 19, 07:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy
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On 2/11/2019 5:49 PM, T wrote:
On 2/11/19 5:15 PM, Mike wrote:
Linux¬*has¬*not¬*offered¬*a¬*viable¬*alternative¬* for¬*the¬*desktop.


Actually Linux Desktop are a wonderful substitute from Windows.
I run my shop on Fedora Xfce and am tickled with it.

What keep folks away is that Linux does not have but about 5%
of the application base as Windows, if that.

Your second paragraph contradicts your first paragraph.

Linux is a perfect solution for a closed/limited appliance like your shop.

The missing 95% turns off people with general purpose systems.
Most people are not looking for a hobby fixing linux issues.
They want to get right on to posting pictures of their cat.
It takes only one missing piece to sour the deal.

Linux users are quick to denigrate people with expectations
different from their own. Linux would have far better market
penetration if they'd catered to general users starting 20 years ago.
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Old February 12th 19, 07:25 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Char Jackson
wrote:


I don't own a cellphone/smartphone either. I do use VOIP,
because it's cheaper than the $55 per month they expect
here for a landline.


$55...yikes, someone must be very proud of their telco offering.

As for VoIP being cheaper, I assume you mean free (after acquiring a
VoIP adapter).


usually, voip-voip calls are free, while calls to/from ptsn are not.

Google Voice is still free and works pretty well,
although individual calls are limited to 3 hours.


it's not voip, although there are ways to use it as such.
 




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