IE8 cannot connect to one website

Problem with www.sciencenews.org and ONLY on www.sciencenews.org.
It is a https site.

XP3: IE8 will NOT connect to the website:
"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage".
"It appears you are connected to the Internet, but you might want to try
to reconnect to the Internet.

Same machine as above, XP3 Sea Monkey 1119 CAN view website.
w7/32 IE8 CAN view website.
w7/64 IE9 CAN view website.

Settings between XP IE8 and W7/32 IE8 using IE tools panel are identical.
Running XP3 IE in safe mode still will not connect to website.

Suggestions wanted for fixing the xp3 no connect.

Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Problem with www.sciencenews.org and ONLY on www.sciencenews.org.
It is a https site.

XP3: IE8 will NOT connect to the website:
"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage".
"It appears you are connected to the Internet, but you might want to try
to reconnect to the Internet.

Same machine as above, XP3 Sea Monkey 1119 CAN view website.
w7/32 IE8 CAN view website.
w7/64 IE9 CAN view website.

Settings between XP IE8 and W7/32 IE8 using IE tools panel are identical.
Running XP3 IE in safe mode still will not connect to website.

Suggestions wanted for fixing the xp3 no connect.

The analysis here, predicts the same thing.

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/anal...ciencenews.org

It could be related to protocol fallback behavior.

Paul

Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Problem with www.sciencenews.org and ONLY on www.sciencenews.org.
It is a https site.

XP3: IE8 will NOT connect to the website:
"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage".
"It appears you are connected to the Internet, but you might want to
try to reconnect to the Internet.

Same machine as above, XP3 Sea Monkey 1119 CAN view website.
w7/32 IE8 CAN view website.
w7/64 IE9 CAN view website.

Settings between XP IE8 and W7/32 IE8 using IE tools panel are identical.
Running XP3 IE in safe mode still will not connect to website.

Suggestions wanted for fixing the xp3 no connect.

The analysis here, predicts the same thing.

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/anal...ciencenews.org

It could be related to protocol fallback behavior.

Paul

Thank you Paul.
Reading about "protocol fallback behavior" now.
I'll call SciNews after Jan 1 to discuss.

In article , , Paul in
Houston TX says...

Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Problem with www.sciencenews.org and ONLY on www.sciencenews.org.
It is a https site.

XP3: IE8 will NOT connect to the website:
"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage".
"It appears you are connected to the Internet, but you might want to
try to reconnect to the Internet.

Same machine as above, XP3 Sea Monkey 1119 CAN view website.
w7/32 IE8 CAN view website.
w7/64 IE9 CAN view website.

Settings between XP IE8 and W7/32 IE8 using IE tools panel are identical.
Running XP3 IE in safe mode still will not connect to website.

Suggestions wanted for fixing the xp3 no connect.

The analysis here, predicts the same thing.

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/anal...ciencenews.org

It could be related to protocol fallback behavior.

Paul

Thank you Paul.
Reading about "protocol fallback behavior" now.
I'll call SciNews after Jan 1 to discuss.

Why not install an up-to-date browser? (that supports new HTML, CSS
etc).

If you consider Google's Chrome to be too erm... instrusive (with it's
tracking), then check out SR-Ware's Iron ...
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php

--
Duncan.

| If you consider Google's Chrome to be too erm... instrusive (with it's
| tracking), then check out SR-Ware's Iron ...
| http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php
|

I'd be interested to hear thoughts on this from people
who've tried it or other chromium derivatives. It might save
some time in researching and trying out the products.

In general I've avoided Chrome for just about every reason:
spyware, auto-search, built-in Flash, minimalism... Can I
even get a menu and remove tabs in a chromium browser?
The Google design aspects remind me of why I don't like Macs
(in addition to the high price): I don't like the product designer
deciding how I should use the product and blocking my
control. My sense has been that Chrome is attractive
to people who are "consumers" -- shopping and Facebooking
with no concern for privacy and no interest in understanding
anything under the surface. In other words, sitting ducks for
Google's strategic herding and spyware. In that respect, Iron
looks interesting.
Thoughts or comments based on experience, anyone?

On 12/24/2014 02:36 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Problem with www.sciencenews.org and ONLY on www.sciencenews.org.
It is a https site.

XP3: IE8 will NOT connect to the website:
"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage".
"It appears you are connected to the Internet, but you might want to try
to reconnect to the Internet.

Same machine as above, XP3 Sea Monkey 1119 CAN view website.
w7/32 IE8 CAN view website.
w7/64 IE9 CAN view website.

Settings between XP IE8 and W7/32 IE8 using IE tools panel are identical.
Running XP3 IE in safe mode still will not connect to website.

Suggestions wanted for fixing the xp3 no connect.



Though I do not know why IE8 cannot connect and cannot guess your reason
for wanting to use Internet Explorer...I assume you have some reason for
doing so.

The only thing I can suggest is to give the Maxthon browser a try.

It uses the components of Internet Explorer but is generally reviewed
favorably as compared to IE.

philo* wrote in :

XP3: IE8 will NOT connect to the website:
"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage".
"It appears you are connected to the Internet, but you might want to try
to reconnect to the Internet.

Same machine as above, XP3 Sea Monkey 1119 CAN view website.
w7/32 IE8 CAN view website.
w7/64 IE9 CAN view website.


Seems odd to me that IE8 in w7 can connect while the XP iteration cannot.
I'd imagine you've done all the "clear the cache and cookies" type of
things. Add ons? Ad blockers? Hosts file? Internet settings?

--

Pat

email: phartzATcoxDOTnet

Phantom Post wrote:
philo wrote in :

XP3: IE8 will NOT connect to the website:
"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage".
"It appears you are connected to the Internet, but you might want to try
to reconnect to the Internet.

Same machine as above, XP3 Sea Monkey 1119 CAN view website.
w7/32 IE8 CAN view website.
w7/64 IE9 CAN view website.

Seems odd to me that IE8 in w7 can connect while the XP iteration cannot.
I'd imagine you've done all the "clear the cache and cookies" type of
things. Add ons? Ad blockers? Hosts file? Internet settings?


WinXP cannot have any SSL/TLS logic patched (no more Windows Updates
added), whereas the other OSes can. Maybe it's some service the browser
calls, rather than code in the browser itself ?

There was even an Schannel patch for the other OSes, which
wasn't made available for WinXP. To get that, you might have
to tweak your OS so it can use the POS (Point Of Sale version
of WinXP), to get some patches. That's if you're into that
sort of thing.

Paul

On 12/25/2014 03:17 PM, Paul wrote:


WinXP cannot have any SSL/TLS logic patched (no more Windows Updates
added), whereas the other OSes can. Maybe it's some service the browser
calls, rather than code in the browser itself ?

There was even an Schannel patch for the other OSes, which
wasn't made available for WinXP. To get that, you might have
to tweak your OS so it can use the POS (Point Of Sale version
of WinXP), to get some patches. That's if you're into that
sort of thing.

Paul



FWIW: I did confirm the same thing with IE8 using both XP 32 bit and XP
64 bit


However Maxthon did work and since it uses the components of IE is
probably going to do the job for the OP..



I can even get into Microsoft's "Internet Explorer only" pages by using
Maxthon on my Linux machine. On Linux of course it does not use IE
components but evidently spoofs it pretty well.

On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 2:36:35 PM UTC-6, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Problem with www.sciencenews.org and ONLY on www.sciencenews.org.
It is a https site.

XP3: IE8 will NOT connect to the website:
"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage".
"It appears you are connected to the Internet, but you might want to try
to reconnect to the Internet.

Same machine as above, XP3 Sea Monkey 1119 CAN view website.
w7/32 IE8 CAN view website.
w7/64 IE9 CAN view website.

Settings between XP IE8 and W7/32 IE8 using IE tools panel are identical.
Running XP3 IE in safe mode still will not connect to website.

Suggestions wanted for fixing the xp3 no connect.

No problem with Firefox 24.6 or SeaMonkey 2.30.

On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 4:20:02 PM UTC-6, Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Problem with www.sciencenews.org and ONLY on www.sciencenews.org.
It is a https site.

XP3: IE8 will NOT connect to the website:
"Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage".
"It appears you are connected to the Internet, but you might want to try
to reconnect to the Internet.

Same machine as above, XP3 Sea Monkey 1119 CAN view website.
w7/32 IE8 CAN view website.
w7/64 IE9 CAN view website.

Settings between XP IE8 and W7/32 IE8 using IE tools panel are identical.
Running XP3 IE in safe mode still will not connect to website.

Suggestions wanted for fixing the xp3 no connect.

The analysis here, predicts the same thing.

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/anal...ciencenews.org

It could be related to protocol fallback behavior.

Paul

http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/09/mi...l-3-0-removal/

A follow-up on Iron, in case anyone's curious.
I asked for opinions before taking the time to try
it myself, but no one answered. I finally got
around to trying Iron. I'd say it's easily the worst
browser I've ever looked at. (Though I never
tried Chrome long enough to compare the two
in detail.) I didn't even try Iron online. There
were too many problems to want to get that far.

* First, it's 3 times the size of Firefox. (150 MB!)

(Yes, hard disks are giant these days. But bloated
design is not a good sign. Whether I have space
to store the bloat is neither here nor there.)

* Second, there are no GUI controls at all. I can't
get rid of tabs. I can't get a menu. I assume
there's no status bar, but didn't get that far.
I *can* have a bookmarks toolbar. How bizarre!
I can't even get back/forward buttons but I can
get a pointless bookmarks toolbar.

The flat Metro-esque design is unhelpful and
distracting. A program with a "skin" or otherwise
gimmicky UI should always, also, provide an option
for a normal Windows UI and not impose preferences.
That's always been one of the best things about
Windows: Aside from a handful of music players
or other entertainment software, nearly all Windows
programs are designed to respect one's UI preferences.
Some people like the sparse design of hiding all options
behind a 3-bar button, but that shouldn't be forced.
I don't see any advantage in the extra steps required
to access things. I do see an advantage in having a
traditional menubar with a traditional layout, so that I
know where to look for things.

* What settings there are provide no explanations
and are poorly laid out. Local data settings seem to
include both cookies and "supercookie" data storage,
but there's really no way to know. The whole settings
UI seems to have been designed by Apple people: lots
of space; few options; no explanations. Altogether
a very Steve Jobsian job: "No, we don't allow you to
control the software, but isn't it beautiful in its
pseudo-Zennie sparseness?" Well, yes, I suppose it
is... sort of... a little bit... if what I wanted was a
greeting card and not a software settings UI.

* There seem to be a number of settings for sharing
and allowing websites to do things such as controlling
a microphone or camera. None of those settings are
explained and most default to insecure options.

* Despite claiming to be more private than Chrome,
Iron still seems to be very Google-connected, including
functionality to "log into Iron using your Google ID".
Why in the world would anyone want to log in to a
browser website? Why does Iron default to trying to
reach its homepage when the browser starts, without
asking? How could one hope to be free of Google spying
if one "logs in" and maintains a Google ID? What would
be the point? Allowing Google cookies will allow Google
to spy on one's activities at most websites, anyway,
so why bother avoiding Chrome in that case?

I was curious to try WebKit in terms of browser
functionality, but the package is so bad that I think
I've cured that curiosity for awhile. (I've heard so
much bad about Safari that I've never even tried that,
and have no reason to think that Apple might provide
a usable product.)
And since Chrome requires a complete rebuild to purge
Google spyware from the program libraries, I'm thinking
that the whole Chrome/Chromium idea is just not a very
good one in the first place. Beginning software development
with an extensive repair job doesn't make much sense.

Anyway.... my 2 cents. For anyone with sensibilities
similar to my own, perhaps I've saved you some time.

In article , am,
Mayayana says...

A follow-up on Iron, in case anyone's curious.

snip

Jeez, it *has* been a long time since you've used Chrome.

And yes, that *is* what Chrome looks like (it *is* Google's Chrome,
withe the "talk back home" stripped out).

(I've never used the "sign in to Iron" - didn't even know it was there
)

--
Duncan.