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Old May 13th 16, 03:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ortiga
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Default Which software is needed for apps?

Hello Windows Users,

Can you tell me which software one needs to make apps for Windows Store?

Thanks

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Old May 13th 16, 07:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil
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Default Which software is needed for apps?

On 5/13/2016 10:01 AM, Ortiga wrote:
Hello Windows Users,

Can you tell me which software one needs to make apps for Windows Store?

Thanks

Visual Studio is one...

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Neil
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Old May 13th 16, 10:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Which software is needed for apps?

Ortiga wrote:
Hello Windows Users,

Can you tell me which software one needs to make apps for Windows Store?

Thanks


You are in for a world of pain.

There is a lengthy submission process, to have
an App you design, added to the official Microsoft Store.
As a developer, this process will kill your enthusiasm.

Maybe you can design a Universal App that runs outside
the Store, but getting it submitted and approved for
inside the Store, is another matter.

You can download Visual Studio Community Edition DVD,
if you need a platform for development. Apps are
designed with stuff like Javascript. Regular applications
might be C++ or C#. So you might even have different
programming languages, depending on the intended target.
Microsoft forced developers to shred what they already
know, and invest in learning new stuff, just to keep up.

Paul
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Old May 13th 16, 11:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ortiga
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Default Which software is needed for apps?

What about this site:

https://appstudio.windows.com/en-us ?

"Paul" escreveu na mensagem ...

Ortiga wrote:
Hello Windows Users,

Can you tell me which software one needs to make apps for Windows Store?

Thanks


You are in for a world of pain.

There is a lengthy submission process, to have
an App you design, added to the official Microsoft Store.
As a developer, this process will kill your enthusiasm.

Maybe you can design a Universal App that runs outside
the Store, but getting it submitted and approved for
inside the Store, is another matter.

You can download Visual Studio Community Edition DVD,
if you need a platform for development. Apps are
designed with stuff like Javascript. Regular applications
might be C++ or C#. So you might even have different
programming languages, depending on the intended target.
Microsoft forced developers to shred what they already
know, and invest in learning new stuff, just to keep up.

Paul

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Old May 14th 16, 01:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Default Which software is needed for apps?

Ortiga wrote:
What about this site:

https://appstudio.windows.com/en-us ?


The article in Wikipedia on it sucks.
I had to find a small site with information on it.

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/17...rsal-apps.html

"App Studio now generates C# code that you can
load into Visual Studio as the basis for your
app. The big problem is that this particular
app generator is very restricted in what you
can generate."

"it seems very limited"

And this is where unusable garbage comes from
in the Windows Store.

At some point, you will need to use a procedural
programming language (C#) to add "meat" to the
App. If you need to work out a Bessel function
or a Fast Fourier Transform, you don't get that
by "moving around Facebook icons". You have to
write code. At some point, real computer programs,
require real code. Not icons and fluff.

Once you get in Visual Studio, then you'll be
very sorry.

Doing "Hello World" is an all day job, after you
install Visual Studio. (It's easier
to do "Hello World", if you have a web site with
a step by step recipe for creating a project,
setting the output to debug or release, and
so on.) I think I actually managed to do
Hello World in Visual Studio. Once.

Part of the problem, is Visual Studio Express/Community
is not bug free. And some of the problems, just never
get fixed. Leaving the user to find long discussion
threads, many of which contain the wrong answers
(from beginner programmers). So many people participate
in the repair threads, it's hard to tell what the
correct answer is.

So if you think flipping around a few Facebook icons
in a blank canvas makes you a programmer, welcome
to the Microsoft App Store! :-)

Paul
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Old May 14th 16, 03:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ortiga
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Default Which software is needed for apps?

Real software costs can be very high, sometimes you can't even buy them.
These modern apps at least are suitable for small budgets. Not everyone
feels like going for business. There is a lot of home users who need Windows
just to collect information about movies and songs and other stuff we may
access.

"Paul" escreveu na mensagem ...

Ortiga wrote:
What about this site:

https://appstudio.windows.com/en-us ?


The article in Wikipedia on it sucks.
I had to find a small site with information on it.

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/17...rsal-apps.html

"App Studio now generates C# code that you can
load into Visual Studio as the basis for your
app. The big problem is that this particular
app generator is very restricted in what you
can generate."

"it seems very limited"

And this is where unusable garbage comes from
in the Windows Store.

At some point, you will need to use a procedural
programming language (C#) to add "meat" to the
App. If you need to work out a Bessel function
or a Fast Fourier Transform, you don't get that
by "moving around Facebook icons". You have to
write code. At some point, real computer programs,
require real code. Not icons and fluff.

Once you get in Visual Studio, then you'll be
very sorry.

Doing "Hello World" is an all day job, after you
install Visual Studio. (It's easier
to do "Hello World", if you have a web site with
a step by step recipe for creating a project,
setting the output to debug or release, and
so on.) I think I actually managed to do
Hello World in Visual Studio. Once.

Part of the problem, is Visual Studio Express/Community
is not bug free. And some of the problems, just never
get fixed. Leaving the user to find long discussion
threads, many of which contain the wrong answers
(from beginner programmers). So many people participate
in the repair threads, it's hard to tell what the
correct answer is.

So if you think flipping around a few Facebook icons
in a blank canvas makes you a programmer, welcome
to the Microsoft App Store! :-)

Paul

 




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