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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windows overWiFi?
On 12/22/2015 08:12 PM, hank williams wrote:
Periodically I have large video files that I'd like to transfer (copy or move) from Linux to Windows (rarely the other way) over my local network. What's the easiest way to transfer large files from Linux to Windows? scp, nfs, if you have a newer version of the spyware, then it has support for ssh and nfs, how good they are, is another question. -- //Aho |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windows over WiFi?
"J.O. Aho" wrote in message
... On 12/22/2015 08:12 PM, hank williams wrote: Periodically I have large video files that I'd like to transfer (copy or move) from Linux to Windows (rarely the other way) over my local network. In my experience, forget copying via wifi and use Ethernet instead. Even with a supposedly 300 Mbps wireless router and a good signal strength (eg laptop right next to router), I get very much lower transfers speeds for laptop to/from desktop over wifi than over Ethernet. In both cases, the desktop is connected to the router by Ethernet, so the only difference is laptop to router by wifi or by Ethernet. Wifi is notoriously poor when it's carrying two different signals (eg laptop to router and router to desktop) which is why I've eliminated that by having the desktop connected by Ethernet. For normal usage, you'd not notice the difference, but when you do a large transfer (eg copying a 1 GB file from local c:\folder\filename to remote \\server\sharename\filename) the difference is very apparent. For example (copying using Windows Explorer): 1. Copy 2.1 GB file from c: on laptop to \\desktop\sharename over wifi which is reporting 72 Mbps and is typically using about 40-60% of the bandwidth - takes 10m 38s (transfer speed reported at about 3.4 MB/sec) 2. Copy same file to same sharename over Ethernet (ie disable laptop's wifi and plug in Ethernet cable) - flat-out 99% usage of 100 Mbps - takes 3m 10s (transfer speed is about 11 MB/sec) This is for Windows 7 to Windows 7. I'm not sure whether Linux shows as much difference between transfer rates for wireless and Ethernet. |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windowsover WiFi?
On 2015-12-30, NY wrote:
"J.O. Aho" wrote in message ... On 12/22/2015 08:12 PM, hank williams wrote: Periodically I have large video files that I'd like to transfer (copy or move) from Linux to Windows (rarely the other way) over my local network. In my experience, forget copying via wifi and use Ethernet instead. Even with a supposedly 300 Mbps wireless router and a good signal strength (eg laptop right next to router), I get very much lower transfers speeds for laptop to/from desktop over wifi than over Ethernet. In both cases, the desktop is connected to the router by Ethernet, so the only difference is laptop to router by wifi or by Ethernet. As someone who copies 25 to 50 GB files many times daily I can agree with this. Even if you have to use a USB to Ethernet dongle, it is worth doing. WiFi is good for the internet, but Gigabit Ethernet is much faster. And now we can see 10G on the horizon. I'm already considering it right now. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windows over WiFi?
"Marek Novotny" wrote in message
... On 2015-12-30, NY wrote: "J.O. Aho" wrote in message ... On 12/22/2015 08:12 PM, hank williams wrote: Periodically I have large video files that I'd like to transfer (copy or move) from Linux to Windows (rarely the other way) over my local network. In my experience, forget copying via wifi and use Ethernet instead. Even with a supposedly 300 Mbps wireless router and a good signal strength (eg laptop right next to router), I get very much lower transfers speeds for laptop to/from desktop over wifi than over Ethernet. In both cases, the desktop is connected to the router by Ethernet, so the only difference is laptop to router by wifi or by Ethernet. As someone who copies 25 to 50 GB files many times daily I can agree with this. Even if you have to use a USB to Ethernet dongle, it is worth doing. WiFi is good for the internet, but Gigabit Ethernet is much faster. And now we can see 10G on the horizon. I'm already considering it right now. Ethernet also has the advantage that it is far more reliable. I find that I occasionally have to disconnect and reconnect the wireless connection on wireless-connected devices when they lose the ability to talk (on a variety of Windows, Android and Apple iPad devices, and to a variety of Netgear, Belkin and TPLink routers); sometimes it's even necessary to reboot a computer or a router to get normal service back. Ethernet doesn't suffer from that. I have an always-on PC that I use (amongst other things) for recording TV and which I sometimes access remotely via TeamViewer when I'm away from home (eg to schedule new programmes to be recorded) and you can't disconnect/reconnect wireless on this PC if your only way of accessing the PC is via that wireless connection! That's why I made sure the router is physically close to that PC, so I can use Ethernet. If I want to transfer large (eg multi GB) files/folders to/from my wireless laptop, I always plug in an Ethernet lead to the laptop to do that. As you say, wireless is fine for almost all purposes, but it's slower for bulk transfers of data and it's not quite 100% reliable. |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windowsover WiFi?
On Thursday, December 31st, 2015, at 10:43:09h +0000, NY noted:
As you say, wireless is fine for almost all purposes Never attempt firmware upgrades on devices connected by WiFi and not ethernet. |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windows over WiFi?
"J G Miller" wrote in message
... On Thursday, December 31st, 2015, at 10:43:09h +0000, NY noted: As you say, wireless is fine for almost all purposes Never attempt firmware upgrades on devices connected by WiFi and not ethernet. Quite. And ideally, only update firmware if you have a fully-charged battery or else are running off UPS-backed mains. And we all follow that rule slavishly, don't we, children? :-) |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windows overWiFi?
On 12/31/2015 07:48 PM, crankypuss wrote:
NY wrote: "J G Miller" wrote in message ... On Thursday, December 31st, 2015, at 10:43:09h +0000, NY noted: As you say, wireless is fine for almost all purposes Never attempt firmware upgrades on devices connected by WiFi and not ethernet. Quite. And ideally, only update firmware if you have a fully-charged battery or else are running off UPS-backed mains. And we all follow that rule slavishly, don't we, children? :-) I happen to follow it because there's really no choice; all of my electricity is battery-backed, even when I'm running off generator instead of solar. The wifi imprecation, not so much; wifi is about the best connection I get unless I'm staying in a hotel that provides an ethernet cable, Thought of ethernet over powerline? *AND* I'm using my old Acer 32-bit machine that actually *HAS* an ethernet port to attach the cable to. Newer laptops, as you might have noticed, seem to have fewer ports overall, so they can beat their chests about how slim their device is. snort The wast majority of thin laptops do still have ethernet, tables is a different question even if they may be thicker than the laptop. -- //Aho |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windows overWiFi?
On 23-Dec-15 2:12 AM, hank williams wrote:
Periodically I have large video files that I'd like to transfer (copy or move) from Linux to Windows (rarely the other way) over my local network. What's the easiest way to transfer large files from Linux to Windows? I tried setting up samba on linux but that failed miserably. I'm thinking a second bet might be an ftp server on linux? What do you use to transfer large files from linux to windows over your local LAN? https://nitroshare.net/ |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windowsover WiFi?
On 2016-01-01, J.O. Aho wrote:
On 12/31/2015 07:48 PM, crankypuss wrote: NY wrote: "J G Miller" wrote in message ... On Thursday, December 31st, 2015, at 10:43:09h +0000, NY noted: As you say, wireless is fine for almost all purposes Never attempt firmware upgrades on devices connected by WiFi and not ethernet. Quite. And ideally, only update firmware if you have a fully-charged battery or else are running off UPS-backed mains. And we all follow that rule slavishly, don't we, children? :-) I happen to follow it because there's really no choice; all of my electricity is battery-backed, even when I'm running off generator instead of solar. The wifi imprecation, not so much; wifi is about the best connection I get unless I'm staying in a hotel that provides an ethernet cable, Thought of ethernet over powerline? *AND* I'm using my old Acer 32-bit machine that actually *HAS* an ethernet port to attach the cable to. Newer laptops, as you might have noticed, seem to have fewer ports overall, so they can beat their chests about how slim their device is. snort The wast majority of thin laptops do still have ethernet, tables is a different question even if they may be thicker than the laptop. Well, I do not know if it is the majority. I had one laptop (Dell XPS13-1915) which had none. Just an ethernet 3 port which you could plug and ethernet to USB3 adapter into. (the thickness of the laptop was less than the height of an ethernet port.) |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windows over WiFi?
On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 02:41:13 -0700, crankypuss
wrote: J.O. Aho wrote: On 12/31/2015 07:48 PM, crankypuss wrote: NY wrote: "J G Miller" wrote in message ... On Thursday, December 31st, 2015, at 10:43:09h +0000, NY noted: As you say, wireless is fine for almost all purposes Never attempt firmware upgrades on devices connected by WiFi and not ethernet. Quite. And ideally, only update firmware if you have a fully-charged battery or else are running off UPS-backed mains. And we all follow that rule slavishly, don't we, children? :-) I happen to follow it because there's really no choice; all of my electricity is battery-backed, even when I'm running off generator instead of solar. The wifi imprecation, not so much; wifi is about the best connection I get unless I'm staying in a hotel that provides an ethernet cable, Thought of ethernet over powerline? Powerline? We're totally offgrid, there is not a single cable or pipe crossing our property-line. The property line is irrelevant. All that matters is that you have some kind of wire connecting two or more rooms in the house, whether it be electrical, phone, or coax. Adapters exist for any of those. I used powerline networking for years, first with a pair of *200 units and later with a pair of *500 units. Both generally sucked. I'm currently using coax (the adapters are Actiontec EBC6200 MOCA 2.0) and I consistently get 900+ megabits per second on file transfers. The best I ever saw with powerline was about 120 Mbps, but 20-30 Mbps was much more typical. |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windowsover WiFi?
crankypuss wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
William Unruh wrote: Well, I do not know if it is the majority. I had one laptop (Dell XPS13-1915) which had none. Just an ethernet 3 port which you could plug and ethernet to USB3 adapter into. (the thickness of the laptop was less than the height of an ethernet port.) What is an "ethernet 3 port"? William meant to write "USB 3", not "ethernet 3". Maybe my XPS13 has one and I'm too stupid to recognize it. It does have 2 USB3 ports, into which I can plug a cable to my phone to tether it. But I know it has some port to plug in a high-res TV, so I guess that's good enough for the modern user, seems pretty obvious where the trends are headed when you have to press Ctl + F3 to get a simple F3 instead of some media control function. I think usually there's some way to switch the default keycode for those kinds of keyboards. Microsoft's "Sculpt" ergonominc keyboard as a little switch you can slide to have the Fn keys be Fn keys or idiot buttons, at your preference. If it does have an "ethernet 3 port" I'd like to know how to recognize it. It definitely has no holes big enough to accept a traditional ethernet cable, let alone of the right size and connection configuration. As an aside, this ASUS I'm using has a wired ethernet port that is as thin as a USB port, but accomodates a standard RJ45 connector by having a hinged bottom lip. -- Just to have it is enough. |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windows over WiFi?
On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 01:28:45 -0700, crankypuss
wrote: What's the deal with the computer hardware industry anyway, they must be so starving for profits that they never think of things like fat USB sticks preventing each other from fitting into adjacent ports. Out of the 3 dozen or so USB sticks I have around here, only a couple are too wide to fit side by side. If I need to use those two together, I stick one on a 6-inch extension. If not the hardware, doubtless the software. Keyboards are a PITA at the best of times, it takes 3 fingers on left hand plus 2 fingers on right hand to select-to-end, some keyboards have a one-finger PgUp/PgDn and others require Ctl, etc etc. Select-to-end is Ctrl-Shift-End, 3 keys. How are you needing 5 keys? |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windows over WiFi?
On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 00:59:02 -0700, crankypuss
wrote: Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 02:41:13 -0700, crankypuss wrote: J.O. Aho wrote: On 12/31/2015 07:48 PM, crankypuss wrote: NY wrote: "J G Miller" wrote in message ... On Thursday, December 31st, 2015, at 10:43:09h +0000, NY noted: As you say, wireless is fine for almost all purposes Never attempt firmware upgrades on devices connected by WiFi and not ethernet. Quite. And ideally, only update firmware if you have a fully-charged battery or else are running off UPS-backed mains. And we all follow that rule slavishly, don't we, children? :-) I happen to follow it because there's really no choice; all of my electricity is battery-backed, even when I'm running off generator instead of solar. The wifi imprecation, not so much; wifi is about the best connection I get unless I'm staying in a hotel that provides an ethernet cable, Thought of ethernet over powerline? Powerline? We're totally offgrid, there is not a single cable or pipe crossing our property-line. The property line is irrelevant. That's what the critters think. I thought we were talking about distributing Internet access throughout a home. In that case, what crosses the property line is certainly irrelevant. It's unlikely that you get Internet access via 'critters'. All that matters is that you have some kind of wire connecting two or more rooms in the house, whether it be electrical, phone, or coax. No, I don't think that matters at all. Of course it does. You can distribute your Internet connection via WiFi, but it won't likely be as fast or as reliable as non-wireless solutions. Consider the source of the signal, it's some cell tower miles away. What's most convenient is just to plug my BlackBerry into the wall and tell it to be a wifi hotspot. Then by all means do that. That certainly wouldn't be acceptable for me, but your needs and expectations are obviously different from mine. Adapters exist for any of those. I used powerline networking for years, first with a pair of *200 units and later with a pair of *500 units. Landlord? Huh? Powerline adapters, HPNA phone adapters, and MOCA coax adapters all use the existing wiring, assuming their respective wiring exists in the first place. No changes to that wiring are required. Why would you need to be a landlord to use any of them? Both generally sucked. And so you're recommending it, nice. I didn't recommend powerline networking. I said that I used it extensively and I thought it sucked. I'm currently using MOCA (media over coax) and it doesn't suck, so that's what I'd recommend if I were to recommend something. I'm currently using coax (the adapters are Actiontec EBC6200 MOCA 2.0) and I consistently get 900+ megabits per second on file transfers. The best I ever saw with powerline was about 120 Mbps, but 20-30 Mbps was much more typical. Fast is nice, on metered broadband, not so much. Fast isn't the only consideration. It's also nice to have reliable Internet access wherever in the house that you need it, simultaneously and seamlessly. If you can do that by carrying your Blackberry around, then that's great. |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windowsover WiFi?
crankypuss wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote: crankypuss wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: William Unruh wrote: Well, I do not know if it is the majority. I had one laptop (Dell XPS13-1915) which had none. Just an ethernet 3 port which you could plug and ethernet to USB3 adapter into. (the thickness of the laptop was less than the height of an ethernet port.) What is an "ethernet 3 port"? William meant to write "USB 3", not "ethernet 3". Hey, us old guys do that from time to time (ie, constantly), just wait until it's *your* turn to start running into address collisions. g I'm not as young as you might think. But it's interesting to consider "ethernet to USB3 adapter", seems like something I might be able to use on occasion, this is what you're talking about right? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833166088 I need to snag a couple of better USB3 hubs, the ones I have are kind of a PITA. I have this one, it is decent: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008ZGKWQI What's the deal with the computer hardware industry anyway, they must be so starving for profits that they never think of things like fat USB sticks preventing each other from fitting into adjacent ports. You can now get up to 128Gb in a tiny little dongle about the depth and width of a small thumbnail. I think usually there's some way to switch the default keycode for those kinds of keyboards. If not the hardware, doubtless the software. Keyboards are a PITA at the best of times, it takes 3 fingers on left hand plus 2 fingers on right hand to select-to-end, some keyboards have a one-finger PgUp/PgDn and others require Ctl, etc etc. Yeah, they're all different. So I use the window manager and xmodmap to provide a consistent experience for me no matter what. Ironically, the ****ing "Windows monopoly" key is a key part of my keystroke paradigm unification. Microsoft's "Sculpt" ergonominc keyboard as a little switch you can slide to have the Fn keys be Fn keys or idiot buttons, at your preference. I have a nice Logitech bluetooth keyboard, but haven't yet set up the bluetooth drivers on the new systems (the Acer is old enough that it has no bluetooth hardware). As an aside, this ASUS I'm using has a wired ethernet port that is as thin as a USB port, but accomodates a standard RJ45 connector by having a hinged bottom lip. What model? Hard to visualize from "hinged bottom lip". ASUS n551jq-ds71. Can't find a good image of the port, however. If I was better at installing linux on linux-unfriendly laptops, I'd probably have a NextBook 10" (nicely made imo), but when BIOS does not support booting from USB it's kinda tough. On Android systems though, there's a development mode which I think is defined into Android, so you can transfer files from your PC. If you have the time and aren't concerned about bricking it. That won't brick squat. However, my Galaxy S5's USB 3.0 mode is "Window only". Dafuq! So I have to use the crappy MTP or PTP mode to transfer files. Wife thinks I have too many laptops already, she's probably right LOL, now I'm thinking that I've seen clues that linux will run on a Mac so who knows what's next. g As long as you're having fun and not catting around with young chicks! -- You seek to shield those you love and you like the role of the provider. |
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Easiest way to transfer large (video) from Linux to Windows overWiFi?
On 01/02/2016 11:25 AM, crankypuss wrote:
Char Jackson wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 01:28:45 -0700, crankypuss wrote: What's the deal with the computer hardware industry anyway, they must be so starving for profits that they never think of things like fat USB sticks preventing each other from fitting into adjacent ports. Out of the 3 dozen or so USB sticks I have around here, only a couple are too wide to fit side by side. If I need to use those two together, I stick one on a 6-inch extension. Ever take a good look at an aircard? Sure, you can always hook another hub to each hub port, sellers love that. If not the hardware, doubtless the software. Keyboards are a PITA at the best of times, it takes 3 fingers on left hand plus 2 fingers on right hand to select-to-end, some keyboards have a one-finger PgUp/PgDn and others require Ctl, etc etc. Select-to-end is Ctrl-Shift-End, 3 keys. How are you needing 5 keys? Lemme see here. Gosh it's only 4 keys, Shift+Ctrl+Fn+End on this XPS13, silly me to be disappointed that it takes those extra keystrokes and ties my fingers in a knot! Also seems silly of them to have blank spots above Home and End keys instead of putting something useful there. Keybinding? You could have one button to press and do the same thing. -- //Aho |
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