I need more screen resolution options.

I tried win10 on a system with a Radeon 9250 display card.
Works, but I can't select widescreen resolutions, so the
display is "stretched".
Googling suggests that there is no actual driver for anything
past XP.
I have options for 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024.
The 1280x1024 selections puts out something that none of my
monitors can use. Just get the monitor error screen telling me that
I should use 1280x1024.

I found mention that you can add screen resolutions to
the default windows 10 display driver, but the link was dead.

I found a utility called cru.exe
It senses the monitor capabilities and purports to
be able to set up the display card to use them.
When I try it, it deletes all the options and puts
me into 1024x768 with the option to change greyed out.

It's not worth changing the video card on this crap system.

I do have a similar problem with more competent video cards
trying to drive the HDMI input of a TV. Can't get them to
use the maximum resolution of the TV. Would be nice to fix that
too.

Would be nice to learn how to set custom screen resolutions.
Anybody know what to tweak?

On 11/4/2015 8:05 PM, mike wrote:
I tried win10 on a system with a Radeon 9250 display card.
Works, but I can't select widescreen resolutions, so the
display is "stretched".
Googling suggests that there is no actual driver for anything
past XP.

Get a new video card?

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On 2015-11-04 7:30 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 11/4/2015 8:05 PM, mike wrote:
I tried win10 on a system with a Radeon 9250 display card.
Works, but I can't select widescreen resolutions, so the
display is "stretched".
Googling suggests that there is no actual driver for anything
past XP.

Get a new video card?

People can get a video card which is a lot more powerful than anything
produced during the XP era for about $40 nowadays. There's no excuse for
holding onto a 9250 nowadays.


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mike wrote:

I tried win10 on a system with a Radeon 9250 display card.
Works, but I can't select widescreen resolutions, so the
display is "stretched".
Googling suggests that there is no actual driver for anything
past XP.
I have options for 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024.
The 1280x1024 selections puts out something that none of my
monitors can use. Just get the monitor error screen telling me that
I should use 1280x1024.

I found mention that you can add screen resolutions to
the default windows 10 display driver, but the link was dead.

I found a utility called cru.exe
It senses the monitor capabilities and purports to
be able to set up the display card to use them.
When I try it, it deletes all the options and puts
me into 1024x768 with the option to change greyed out.

It's not worth changing the video card on this crap system.

I do have a similar problem with more competent video cards
trying to drive the HDMI input of a TV. Can't get them to
use the maximum resolution of the TV. Would be nice to fix that
too.

Would be nice to learn how to set custom screen resolutions.
Anybody know what to tweak?

I went to:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

and selected

Type of system = Desktop Graphics
Product family = Radeon 9xxx series
Product = Radeon 9250 Series

When I went to select an OS, the only listed as available we

Windows XP - 32 bit
Windows 2000 - Professional
Windows ME \ 98
Linux x86
Linux x86_64

So AMD did not produce drivers that supported later versions of Windows.
It's an old card and long discontinued. No company is going to expend
resources to continue developing drivers for discontinued products.
Since they stopped producing a driver for this video card starting with
Windows Vista, then Windows 7, Windows 8[.1], and Windows 10 won't have
a driver from them to support those later versions of Windows.

That a later version of Windows supports old and sometimes discontinued
hardware does not mean it supports it well. Since AMD doesn't provide a
driver for Windows 10, you can either hope a driver they do provide for
an older Windows version will work in a later version or use the generic
drivers included in Windows which likely do not support all features of
the hardware. In devmgmt.msc, what driver is being used to support that
video card?

As for the monitor, what type is it? CRT or LCD? The old CRTs would
sometimes not work if the frequency was slightly offset from what they
expect. You had to use the sizing controls on the CRT to adjust the
size of the screen (make it a bit bigger or a bit smaller) to get it to
accept the frequency outputted by the video card at a particular
resolution. Also, just because a video card can produce a high
resolution does not mean the monitor can use it. Does your monitor
actually have specs claiming it supports 1280x1024?

Another problem is that you may see a list of resolutions that the
monitor cannot support. Sometimes a monitor manufacturer will provide
an .inf file that you install. It defines the support resolutions for
that monitor so you get a correct list shown when using the Windows
dialog to change resolutions. Will probably different for wizard
navigation in Windows 10, under Windows 7 when I run
"C:\Windows\System32\control.exe /name Microsoft.Display" and select
"Change display settings", my actual monitor model number is listed in
the Display field. I don't know if I had previously installed the .inf
"driver" file (actually a list of operational definitions) or if
Microsoft had coded my monitor's model into their embedded list. Looks
something like:

http://www.presentationteam.com/imag...f-displays.png

except lacking Multiple Displays field since I only have one monitor
connected to the video card (and no onboard video). What monitor model
is shown for your setup? I haven't played with the Landscape and
Portrait orientation mode but perhaps it might help you. Mine is set to
Landscape (because I have drivers for the video card for the OS) but you
might try Portrait (if your setup is currently using Landscape). That
means you'll get a square screen which also means losing use of some of
the monitor realestate to the sides.

My aunt has old hardware so getting a new 16:9 LCD monitor would mean
everything looked squashed. Instead I got her a 4:3 square LCD monitor
(used, from Craigslist) so what she saw would have the same proportions
as her old CRT monitor.

Or do as others have mentioned: get a newer video card. To make sure it
has Windows 10 drivers, see if you can search in reverse order. Most
users buy a video card and then check what drivers are available. At
AMD's web site, go to their Support Center and instead search on either
"Windows 10 (32-bit)" or "Windows 10 (64-bit)" (you never mentioned
bitwidth of your Win10 setup) to see what video cards have drivers for
those OSes. The driver descriptions mention some video card model
numbers so you know the Win10 driver works with those.

Because you are asking about the old Radeon 9250 video which only had
VGA outputs, make sure a new card also has a VGA connector; else, you'll
need converter dongles and possible a new video cable. Windows 10 has
DirectX v12 but getting a video card that supports it will significantly
hike up the price. So will DX11.2 and DX11.1 support. Just go with
DX11 for now. You can even get newer video cards that are fanless: less
noise, one less fan to scrub the grime plastered to the blades with an
ear swab to blow clean. You never mentioned the make and model of your
monitor(s). Doesn't sound like this old hardware is going to be running
games under Win10, anyway. Get a card that supports its max resolution.
For an LCD monitor, run it at its native resolution (often its highest
resolution) to eliminate artifacts; e.g., fuzzy focus, color tinging of
text characters or borders. So, for LCD, get a video card that can run
the LCD monitor at its native resolution.

If you buy online, make sure the product is sold by the online vendor.
For example, Newegg allows other sellers to use the Newegg site. For
returns, you have to deal with the actual seller. Newegg is pretty good
on returns but other sellers not so much. So if you buy from Newegg, be
sure to select Newegg as the seller in a search there. Choose someone
else and you might find returns to be much more difficult. I'd stay
away from the refurbished goods and stick with retail or OEM. Some
refurbished goods (considered used) are returns from customers that
ordered the wrong item but may also be due to defects in the goods.
Don't bother ordering out-of-stock goods. Even if they show an expected
delivery date, they don't know if and when they might get them and
meanwhile you're waiting and waiting.

http://tinyurl.com/o8brdu8 is a narrowed search of what I found at
Newegg but may not exactly match your hardware criteria. Of those
listed in that search, I'd probably go with Sapphire ($40) or Asus ($45)
in that preferential order based on quality (not necessarily price).
I'd only get XFX if that was the only brand that matched the criteria
since that company overclocks their products trying to gain an edge on
other vendors, plus I would go through a 48-hour burn-in on any XFX
product to help ensure it lasts. Plus I prefer not overclocking by me
or by the manufacturer. Stability is more important to me than a micro
increase in performance which typically only shows up in benchmarks.
Performance is worthless for a crashing device or software. I've had
better luck with Sapphire than with Asus. Sapphire lists Win10 32- and
64-bit drivers for their HD 6450 video card. I'd presume so does Asus
but check.

Of course, on that old "crap system", maybe you should not be trying to
install a version of Windows outside the era for that old crappy
hardware. Is it worth spending $40-$45 to get a new video card when the
rest of the hardware, like an old CPU, old mobo, slow RAM, slow HDDs,
will throttle the performance of the OS? If you start upgrading some
hardware, you'll probably end up upgrading other hardware. Probably
better to start with a new build as you'll eventually end up there,
anyway, with a bunch of incremental hardware upgrades.

mike wrote:
I tried win10 on a system with a Radeon 9250 display card.
Works, but I can't select widescreen resolutions, so the
display is "stretched".
Googling suggests that there is no actual driver for anything
past XP.
I have options for 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024.
The 1280x1024 selections puts out something that none of my
monitors can use. Just get the monitor error screen telling me that
I should use 1280x1024.

I found mention that you can add screen resolutions to
the default windows 10 display driver, but the link was dead.

I found a utility called cru.exe
It senses the monitor capabilities and purports to
be able to set up the display card to use them.
When I try it, it deletes all the options and puts
me into 1024x768 with the option to change greyed out.

It's not worth changing the video card on this crap system.

I do have a similar problem with more competent video cards
trying to drive the HDMI input of a TV. Can't get them to
use the maximum resolution of the TV. Would be nice to fix that
too.

Would be nice to learn how to set custom screen resolutions.
Anybody know what to tweak?


You're using the fallback video driver.
It is perilously close to a "BIOS mode" of
operating a frame buffer. It has no acceleration.
The resolution choices might be part of some
VESA definition for such modes.

I'm not sure any non PCI-Express video cards
have Win10 drivers. So swapping video out, would
likely require a PCI Express video card. And the
machine may not have a slot for it.

In both Windows and Linux, there is the notion
of a Mode Line. PowerStrip was an example of a
utility for entering mode line input (for programming
a projector to work with a computer, the projector
having no EDID information on the cable). But
this has only been tested up to Win7. Same goes
for video cards. The best video card I could
find, would be a candidate for Win7, not Win10.
I would expect this program to behave like CRU.
(The ATI and NVidia drivers have a custom resolution
interface, which this program would like. The VESA fallback
driver should be missing virtually everything
of interest. So the odds of this program talking
to the VESA driver, are poor. If you're desperate,
give it a try. Maybe do a backup of C:, before
messing about and losing video entirely.)

http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm

(FAQ articles)

http://forums.entechtaiwan.com/index.php?board=7.0

Paul

Paul wrote:

I'm not sure any non PCI-Express video cards have Win10 drivers.

Many do but those are newer video cards.

So swapping video out, would likely require a PCI Express video card.
And the machine may not have a slot for it.

The OP said he had a Radeon 9250 video card. I only see PCI listed for
its specifications, not PCI-e. So, yep, the OP might need a new mobo.
Considering his RAM, video, HDD, and mobo are slow, upgrading one will
lead to needing to upgrade the others. I don't think the OP wants to
incrementally upgrade his "crap system".

Without knowing what mobo the OP has, no idea if he can use a better
and newer video card (and one with Win10 drivers).

On 11/4/2015 11:57 PM, Slimer wrote:

Get a new video card?

People can get a video card which is a lot more powerful than anything
produced during the XP era for about $40 nowadays. There's no excuse for
holding onto a 9250 nowadays.

Well... It's still fun to keep something alive and well till the end of
time!

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On 11/4/2015 11:33 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
mike wrote:

I tried win10 on a system with a Radeon 9250 display card.
Works, but I can't select widescreen resolutions, so the
display is "stretched".
Googling suggests that there is no actual driver for anything
past XP.
I have options for 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024.
The 1280x1024 selections puts out something that none of my
monitors can use. Just get the monitor error screen telling me that
I should use 1280x1024.

I found mention that you can add screen resolutions to
the default windows 10 display driver, but the link was dead.

I found a utility called cru.exe
It senses the monitor capabilities and purports to
be able to set up the display card to use them.
When I try it, it deletes all the options and puts
me into 1024x768 with the option to change greyed out.

It's not worth changing the video card on this crap system.

I do have a similar problem with more competent video cards
trying to drive the HDMI input of a TV. Can't get them to
use the maximum resolution of the TV. Would be nice to fix that
too.

Would be nice to learn how to set custom screen resolutions.
Anybody know what to tweak?

I went to:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

and selected

Type of system = Desktop Graphics
Product family = Radeon 9xxx series
Product = Radeon 9250 Series

When I went to select an OS, the only listed as available we

Windows XP - 32 bit
Windows 2000 - Professional
Windows ME \ 98
Linux x86
Linux x86_64

So AMD did not produce drivers that supported later versions of Windows.
It's an old card and long discontinued. No company is going to expend
resources to continue developing drivers for discontinued products.
Since they stopped producing a driver for this video card starting with
Windows Vista, then Windows 7, Windows 8[.1], and Windows 10 won't have
a driver from them to support those later versions of Windows.

That a later version of Windows supports old and sometimes discontinued
hardware does not mean it supports it well. Since AMD doesn't provide a
driver for Windows 10, you can either hope a driver they do provide for
an older Windows version will work in a later version or use the generic
drivers included in Windows which likely do not support all features of
the hardware. In devmgmt.msc, what driver is being used to support that
video card?

As for the monitor, what type is it? CRT or LCD? The old CRTs would
sometimes not work if the frequency was slightly offset from what they
expect. You had to use the sizing controls on the CRT to adjust the
size of the screen (make it a bit bigger or a bit smaller) to get it to
accept the frequency outputted by the video card at a particular
resolution. Also, just because a video card can produce a high
resolution does not mean the monitor can use it. Does your monitor
actually have specs claiming it supports 1280x1024?

Another problem is that you may see a list of resolutions that the
monitor cannot support. Sometimes a monitor manufacturer will provide
an .inf file that you install. It defines the support resolutions for
that monitor so you get a correct list shown when using the Windows
dialog to change resolutions. Will probably different for wizard
navigation in Windows 10, under Windows 7 when I run
"C:\Windows\System32\control.exe /name Microsoft.Display" and select
"Change display settings", my actual monitor model number is listed in
the Display field. I don't know if I had previously installed the .inf
"driver" file (actually a list of operational definitions) or if
Microsoft had coded my monitor's model into their embedded list. Looks
something like:

http://www.presentationteam.com/imag...f-displays.png

except lacking Multiple Displays field since I only have one monitor
connected to the video card (and no onboard video). What monitor model
is shown for your setup? I haven't played with the Landscape and
Portrait orientation mode but perhaps it might help you. Mine is set to
Landscape (because I have drivers for the video card for the OS) but you
might try Portrait (if your setup is currently using Landscape). That
means you'll get a square screen which also means losing use of some of
the monitor realestate to the sides.

My aunt has old hardware so getting a new 16:9 LCD monitor would mean
everything looked squashed. Instead I got her a 4:3 square LCD monitor
(used, from Craigslist) so what she saw would have the same proportions
as her old CRT monitor.

Or do as others have mentioned: get a newer video card. To make sure it
has Windows 10 drivers, see if you can search in reverse order. Most
users buy a video card and then check what drivers are available. At
AMD's web site, go to their Support Center and instead search on either
"Windows 10 (32-bit)" or "Windows 10 (64-bit)" (you never mentioned
bitwidth of your Win10 setup) to see what video cards have drivers for
those OSes. The driver descriptions mention some video card model
numbers so you know the Win10 driver works with those.

Because you are asking about the old Radeon 9250 video which only had
VGA outputs, make sure a new card also has a VGA connector; else, you'll
need converter dongles and possible a new video cable. Windows 10 has
DirectX v12 but getting a video card that supports it will significantly
hike up the price. So will DX11.2 and DX11.1 support. Just go with
DX11 for now. You can even get newer video cards that are fanless: less
noise, one less fan to scrub the grime plastered to the blades with an
ear swab to blow clean. You never mentioned the make and model of your
monitor(s). Doesn't sound like this old hardware is going to be running
games under Win10, anyway. Get a card that supports its max resolution.
For an LCD monitor, run it at its native resolution (often its highest
resolution) to eliminate artifacts; e.g., fuzzy focus, color tinging of
text characters or borders. So, for LCD, get a video card that can run
the LCD monitor at its native resolution.

If you buy online, make sure the product is sold by the online vendor.
For example, Newegg allows other sellers to use the Newegg site. For
returns, you have to deal with the actual seller. Newegg is pretty good
on returns but other sellers not so much. So if you buy from Newegg, be
sure to select Newegg as the seller in a search there. Choose someone
else and you might find returns to be much more difficult. I'd stay
away from the refurbished goods and stick with retail or OEM. Some
refurbished goods (considered used) are returns from customers that
ordered the wrong item but may also be due to defects in the goods.
Don't bother ordering out-of-stock goods. Even if they show an expected
delivery date, they don't know if and when they might get them and
meanwhile you're waiting and waiting.

http://tinyurl.com/o8brdu8 is a narrowed search of what I found at
Newegg but may not exactly match your hardware criteria. Of those
listed in that search, I'd probably go with Sapphire ($40) or Asus ($45)
in that preferential order based on quality (not necessarily price).
I'd only get XFX if that was the only brand that matched the criteria
since that company overclocks their products trying to gain an edge on
other vendors, plus I would go through a 48-hour burn-in on any XFX
product to help ensure it lasts. Plus I prefer not overclocking by me
or by the manufacturer. Stability is more important to me than a micro
increase in performance which typically only shows up in benchmarks.
Performance is worthless for a crashing device or software. I've had
better luck with Sapphire than with Asus. Sapphire lists Win10 32- and
64-bit drivers for their HD 6450 video card. I'd presume so does Asus
but check.

Of course, on that old "crap system", maybe you should not be trying to
install a version of Windows outside the era for that old crappy
hardware. Is it worth spending $40-$45 to get a new video card when the
rest of the hardware, like an old CPU, old mobo, slow RAM, slow HDDs,
will throttle the performance of the OS? If you start upgrading some
hardware, you'll probably end up upgrading other hardware. Probably
better to start with a new build as you'll eventually end up there,
anyway, with a bunch of incremental hardware upgrades.

This isn't my first rodeo.



Thanks. I know you guys are trying to be helpful.
But, I'd really like suggestions about my question instead of rambling
discussion about new video cards. I buy whole computers for a buck,
so a $40 video card is not in the cards...pun intended.

It's a Dell Precision 370. I was surprised at how well it manages
windows-10,
except for the video card. I really don't care much.

What I do care about is getting 1680x1050 native resolution out the HDMI
port of a different
system to talk to the TV I want to use as a monitor.
Turns out that Cheap TV's are short on specifications.
Maybe all I need is numbers to put into a .inf file.
I have no idea what the video card supports, but it's happy at 1920x1200.
Needs same solution.

Windows 10 seems to have taken a step backwards in monitor/graphics card
configurability.
I was hoping that there might be some simple registry entries to
add what I need.

In linux, the tool is xrandr. It's way too complicated for me,
but there's an app that takes your resolution numbers and creates
the gory timing details...and it just works.

Paul suggested a windows app. Thanks.
It looks like I need to know all the timing info to use it,
but I lost interest when I saw the word "shareware" and the ~$30 price.

All this is a hobby and I like to learn new things.
The hobby is "being cheap". Computers are merely the vehicle.
I have no use for the stuff, but I like to fix it.

On 11/4/2015 10:18 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Paul wrote:

I'm not sure any non PCI-Express video cards have Win10 drivers.

Many do but those are newer video cards.

So swapping video out, would likely require a PCI Express video card.
And the machine may not have a slot for it.

The OP said he had a Radeon 9250 video card. I only see PCI listed for
its specifications, not PCI-e. So, yep, the OP might need a new mobo.
Considering his RAM, video, HDD, and mobo are slow, upgrading one will
lead to needing to upgrade the others. I don't think the OP wants to
incrementally upgrade his "crap system".

Without knowing what mobo the OP has, no idea if he can use a better
and newer video card (and one with Win10 drivers).

That's not the issue.
I don't want to know what I can change it to.
I want to figger out how to get the best from what it already has.

On 11/5/2015 9:20 PM, mike wrote:
All this is a hobby and I like to learn new things.
The hobby is "being cheap". Computers are merely the vehicle.
I have no use for the stuff, but I like to fix it.

Then remember to keep a copy of all drivers related to your old
hardware. You might not be able to find them again later as they got
displaced by new devices.

mike wrote:

This isn't my first rodeo.

And how would anyone know? We are not your buddies at work or your
family to know your history of experience. Hell, you didn't even bother
to give the brand and models despite your claim of expertise.

Thanks. I know you guys are trying to be helpful.
But, I'd really like suggestions about my question instead of rambling
discussion about new video cards.

You were told. You were told there are no drivers for that video card
designed or distributed by AMD that support Windows 10.

But you didn't want to be told what you already knew so you asked for
suggestions. Well, guess what? The suggestions are you get a better
video card. That the solution is not what you want doesn't alter that
it is a solution. You didn't like what you have to do for a solution.
That's no surprise considering the "crap system" you are trying to drag
to a new OS.

I buy whole computers for a buck,
so a $40 video card is not in the cards...pun intended.

So you buy junky old crap and then you want suggestions on how to make
that old crap work with a new OS. Uh huh. You really don't want
suggestions. You want a magic bullet to make ancient hardware work with
new software.

It's a Dell Precision 370. I was surprised at how well it manages
windows-10,
except for the video card. I really don't care much.

What I do care about is getting 1680x1050 native resolution out the HDMI
port of a different
system to talk to the TV I want to use as a monitor.

You are using a TV as a monitor? By the time you are far enough away to
not see the pixelation of static images, you might have well as gotten a
small monitor.

This criteria was never mentioned in your starter post. You mentioned
trying to connect to a TV via HDMI but that was a "too" statement
meaning that was not the primary setup you were trying to resolve sizing
issues. I figured you would be using a real computer monitor and why I
suggested portrait mode to see if that made the display unsquashed.
You'll lose screen real estate on the sides but the display should no
longer be squashed (or stretched).

Windows 10 seems to have taken a step backwards in monitor/graphics card
configurability.
I was hoping that there might be some simple registry entries to
add what I need.

Did you ever run through the device wizard? Back in Windows XP and 7,
you could run devmgmt.msc and change the driver for the display adapter.
Windows comes with a set of embedded drivers from which you can select.
It's possible your video card is in their list. What you'll get is a
generic driver but it might support more resolutions that what you got
with whatever generic driver you are using now. See if updating the
driver and using "Let me pick" and deselecting "Show compatible
hardware" lists the ATI 9250. In Windows 7 Home, it wasn't listed but
the 9550 and 9600 were. You could see if another driver gives more
control over resolution.

For its specs, the 9250 is supposed the following screen resolutions:

1152x864
XGA (1024x768) --.-- you mentioned seeing these listed
1920x1200 |
1920x1440 |
HDTV (1920x1080) | -- Does your TV support 1080p?
QXGA (2048x1536) |
SVGA (800x600) --|
SXGA (1280x1024) --'
UXGA (1600x1200)
VGA (640x480)

Have you tried resolutions other than 1280x1024? Just because the video
card supports a greater number of resolution choices doesn't mean the
monitor does. Where are you seeing the choice of resolutions? In a
Windows supplied list? That only shows what it has been told are the
resolutions supported by the monitor, not by the video card (and its
ancilliary software to change resolution). Did you try changing
resolution in the Catalyst Control Center ancilliary program (Desktop
Management - Desktop Properties)?

Did you check if the *monitor* maker (not some TV) has an .inf file so
Windows knows what resolutions the *monitor* can support? If you are
using a generic monitor definition, it won't have the same set of
resolutions as an .inf definition file from the monitor maker. Alas,
I'm not sure if you even have a computer monitor and are only using a TV
with its HDMI input. Maybe that TV maker has an .inf file you can
install into Windows (devmgmt.msc, properties of monitor, not display
adapter, choose a different driver, let me pick, point at the .inf file
from the monitor or TV maker).

For now, I don't know if you are looking at a list of resolutions for
what Windows knows about the monitor or if you are looking at a list of
resolutions for what the Catalyst program shows as supported by the
video card. Although there is no Win10 driver for the 9250, you should
still be able to install the Catalyst software (if it wasn't there
already since the Win10 you have is probably the free upgrade version).

With the screen resolutions noted in the specs for the 9250 video card,
the lack of resolution selections is due to what the monitor itself
supports. Can't help you with connecting to a TV via HDMI. TVs have
always looked crappy as monitors to me. You'll notice the store
displays always have video that is changing, like showing a movie, and
not a static screen, like for a desktop with some idle apps open.

I picked a non-CRT TV (since I and others have no idea what you have):
Samsung 32" UN32J5003AFXZA. This is an LED TV. One of the warnings in
the manual is "Avoid displaying still images (such as jpeg picture
files) or still image elements (such as TV channel logos, panorama or
4:3 image format, stock or news bars at screen bottom etc.) on the
screen. Constant displaying of still pictures can cause ghosting of
LED screen, which will affect image quality." Shades of burned in image
problem with CRTs. The manual at http://tinyurl.com/osnfyux has a table
of supported screen resolutions via its HDMI inputs. It has 2 entries
for 1280x1024, each operating at different frequencies. So, although
the TV supports 1280x1024, could be the video card at that claimed
supported screen resolution is putting out the wrong frequencies
(horizontal or vertical).

In the Catalyst program (not the monitor resolutions shown in the
Windows 'Display' applet which is about the monitor, not video card),
under Desktop Management - Desktop Properties, not only can you select
the screen resolution but you can select the frequency (vertical only).
Changing that to what your TV supports (or your monitor which is unknown
to me and others) might get the display to look better.

All this is a hobby and I like to learn new things.
The hobby is "being cheap". Computers are merely the vehicle.
I have no use for the stuff, but I like to fix it.

Try changing the driver using one from those embedded in Windows by
using the driver wizard. Try using portrait mode to unsquash the
display. Try changing the refresh rate (frequency) of the video card.

Trying to define custom screen resolutions does not mean that will
magically alter the hardware (video card) to support those new
resolutions or change the monitor or TV hardware to support them.
That's why I mentioned seeing if the monitor maker has an .inf file so
Windows knows what resolutions and frequencies to list for that monitor.
I don't recall TVs having an .inf file and instead just list what
resolutions they support on particular inputs.

For digital monitors, if that's what you have, you should be running it
at its native resolution. If the monitor has a native resolution of
1920x1080 (native is often the highest resolution listed) then use that.
Any other resolution will resolution in video artifacts, like fuzziness
in focus or color tinging around text characters or borders. If the
text gets too small for you to read then up the DPI in Windows. After
all, if you got a higher resolution monitor then use it to increase the
number of pixels used per character to make it sharper.

Are you using a computer monitor? For the TV "too", is that a secondary
"monitor"? Maybe someone could tell you if the monitor has an .inf file
or its set of supported screen resolutions as well as for the TV if you
identified them. While Catalyst will let you select resolutions
supported by the video card as well as changing frequencies, that won't
help if whatever you have for a monitor or TV doesn't support those.

On 11/5/2015 7:38 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-11-04 07:05, mike wrote:
[...]
Would be nice to learn how to set custom screen resolutions.
[...]

The best resolution for any flat screen is the native one. If the
graphics card can't drive the screen at that resolution, change the card
or attach a screen the card can handle.

I'm curious: why do you want to change resolutions?

to make the display look reasonable.
it's a wide screen format.
the default windows 10 driver does
800x600
1024x768
1280x1024
and the 1280x1024 doesn't work at all with this display card
and windows 10. I haven't bothered to turn on the oscilloscope
to see why, because I still don't have any idea how to change it.

monitor is 1440x900 native.

And the problem is not limited to this card. For display cards
not recognized/as supported, even tho you can get drivers from the
vendor, I've only seen those three choices for the default driver.

Linux has the same problem. The driver is WAY more capable than
what is allowed by the default user interface. You can fix that with
xrandr.

I merely asked if there were a similar fix for windows 10.

What I keep getting are condescending lectures on why
someone else would do
something different, and repeating over and over the alternative
things one would do to resolve the problem. That's the way newsgroups
work. I find that if I hang in there long enough answers often
bubble to the surface.
Condescending lectures are much more palatable when accompanied
by an actual answer to the question asked.

The hope was that one could add resolutions to the default
win10 display driver. I guess not.

Have a good day,

On 11/5/2015 6:17 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 11/5/2015 9:20 PM, mike wrote:
All this is a hobby and I like to learn new things.
The hobby is "being cheap". Computers are merely the vehicle.
I have no use for the stuff, but I like to fix it.

Then remember to keep a copy of all drivers related to your old
hardware. You might not be able to find them again later as they got
displaced by new devices.

It's not that simple.
Ever tried to find a modern commodity motherboard with a IDE port?
Or a serial port? Or a parallel port? And don't tell me that all
that is available on plugin cards. Newer boards have fewer slots.
And they're all spoken for.
And the drivers that came with the devices don't work in the current
OS.
I get it. Time marches on.
I'm here asking for a software workaround for one little issue.

On 11/5/2015 7:20 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
mike wrote:

This isn't my first rodeo.

And how would anyone know? We are not your buddies at work or your
family to know your history of experience. Hell, you didn't even bother
to give the brand and models despite your claim of expertise.

Thanks. I know you guys are trying to be helpful.
But, I'd really like suggestions about my question instead of rambling
discussion about new video cards.

You were told. You were told there are no drivers for that video card
designed or distributed by AMD that support Windows 10.

But you didn't want to be told what you already knew so you asked for
suggestions. Well, guess what? The suggestions are you get a better
video card. That the solution is not what you want doesn't alter that
it is a solution. You didn't like what you have to do for a solution.
That's no surprise considering the "crap system" you are trying to drag
to a new OS.

I asked for a tweak to the existing
default win10 display driver configuration to add resolutions.
It's right there in the subject line.

You made your input several posts ago. When you're out of ideas,
just quit posting. Yelling, "get a new video card" isn't helping.
I've got a box of video cards.
What I do is MY choice. If you can't or don't want to help with a
creative solution, that's OK.
Just take a chill pill, quit posting, and the thread will die.

Are we having fun yet?

On 2015-11-05 10:46 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-11-05 08:20, mike wrote:
What I do care about is getting 1680x1050 native resolution out the HDMI
port of a different
system to talk to the TV I want to use as a monitor.

HD TV is 1920x1080. Mismatch.

Have a good day,

Actually, TV is considered HD as of 1280x720. 1920x1080p is considered
Full HD. However, most programming is in 1920x1080i.


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