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Old July 2nd 15, 01:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Alek
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Default app suspended?

I saw this on a mailing list...

"I happened to be looking at Process Explorer just after I had closed
the Flipboard App with the upper right corner X, and I saw that its
state was 'suspended'.

"I killed it, and started it up again. This time I used alt-F4. When I
checked Process Explorer, there was no sign of Flipboard.

"So, what does this signify???"


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Old July 2nd 15, 01:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default app suspended?

Alek wrote:

I saw this on a mailing list...

"I happened to be looking at Process Explorer just after I had closed
the Flipboard App with the upper right corner X, and I saw that its
state was 'suspended'.

"I killed it, and started it up again. This time I used alt-F4. When I
checked Process Explorer, there was no sign of Flipboard.

"So, what does this signify???"


That the app has an option to minimize its process to a tray icon or
hide its window when "closing" its window (using the titlebar X icon)
and that option is enabled. The function of the X object for the window
object can change. Use File - Exit instead. Alt+F4 requests the
process to exit, not merely close or hide its window. A process can run
without a window.
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Old July 2nd 15, 01:58 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Default app suspended?

Alek wrote:
I saw this on a mailing list...

"I happened to be looking at Process Explorer just after I had closed
the Flipboard App with the upper right corner X, and I saw that its
state was 'suspended'.

"I killed it, and started it up again. This time I used alt-F4. When I
checked Process Explorer, there was no sign of Flipboard.

"So, what does this signify???"



http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsappde...windows-8.aspx

As we saw in the "managing app lifecycle" blog post, a Metro style
app can transition between various runtime states. Based on this app
lifecycle, we like to think of these key areas of verification:

* Activated: verify the app through several activation paths
* Running: verify the app at runtime
* Suspended: verify the app suspends correctly
* Resumed: verify the app resumes correctly
* Terminated: verify the app terminates
* Not running: verify behavior when your app is not running

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsappde...live-quot.aspx

The app lifecycle model in Windows 8 means that users no longer need to
manage which apps are running. It also makes it easy for developers to
craft a great user experience that doesn’t affect the device's battery
or performance when the app is in the background. Using the new lifecycle
events, your app will always feel alive, even though it never runs when
it is off-screen.

[The rest of that article goes on to explain the concepts]

*******

Now you know why the XBOX Music player in Win10 Preview,
stops playing music when you iconify it. As soon as the
application loses focus, the music stops. And you can see
that to have the music playing, is a violation of the above
model. For XBOX Music to work, they'll need a new state in
the model, that allows a program to continue running, but
without the GUI being visible on the screen.

Also, the above article omits one other state. The Windows
OS continues to have a "zombie" state for a process. And
that state even existed in Unix, so the concept has been
around for decades. A zombie is a task that needs to be
harvested by Init (or whatever the boss task is in the
system), but it hasn't happened yet. As a user, there's
nothing you can do to make a zombie go away (short of
rebooting). On Windows, such a zombie would exist as an
oversight, rather than by design. Yet, the OS needs a
notation for such a situation, which is why you might
see such a status in Task Manager some day. Normally, a
task entering the "terminating" state, disappears rapidly.
But if there is a problem with the shutdown process for
the thing, then it gets a zombie status, and as far
as the user can tell, absolutely nothing on the computer
cares about it any more.

Paul
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Old July 2nd 15, 02:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Jack Smith
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Default app suspended?

Maybe Windows 8.1 has been updated. I tried close button and Alt+F4 with a
few Apps and now Alt+F4 closes effectively the App.

"Alek" escreveu na mensagem ...

I saw this on a mailing list...

"I happened to be looking at Process Explorer just after I had closed
the Flipboard App with the upper right corner X, and I saw that its
state was 'suspended'.

"I killed it, and started it up again. This time I used alt-F4. When I
checked Process Explorer, there was no sign of Flipboard.

"So, what does this signify???"

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Old July 2nd 15, 05:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Alek
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Default app suspended?

Wolf K wrote on 7/2/2015 9:18 AM:
On 2015-07-01 8:37 PM, Alek wrote:
I saw this on a mailing list...

"I happened to be looking at Process Explorer just after I had closed
the Flipboard App with the upper right corner X, and I saw that its
state was 'suspended'.

"I killed it, and started it up again. This time I used alt-F4. When I
checked Process Explorer, there was no sign of Flipboard.

"So, what does this signify???"


That the app is still in memory, not running. The OS can restart it
without having to reload it. Usually, it also means that related current
data, or pointers to it, is preserved.


Huh! I thought that the X was the same as for a desktop program.
 




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