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  #61  
Old May 12th 14, 02:05 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Mon, 12 May 2014 07:45:44 -0400, Caver1
wrote:

Had you followed the advice to reinstall Windows, you would have solved
your problem already. At this point, you're a troll as far as I'm
concerned.


When you buy a computer with Windows preinstalled you no longer get a
Windows iso disk and with the OEM version you cannot just download it.
You have to buy it. Why should I buy something again that I have already
paid for?


You don't have to buy a full new copy of Windows. If you haven't made
an installation DVD yourself there are plenty of people on Ebay
offering these for a much smaller sum reflecting just the cost of
printing and posting the disk, but without an activation code. If your
previously installed copy of Windows 8 was already activated, then you
should find that the new installation is also. I think the activation
information is either stored in the BIOS or obtained from Microsoft
when it goes online to check.

This is what I used when I replaced the hard drive in a laptop with a
solid state drive, and it works just fine. A big advantage of a
completely fresh install on a blank drive is the avoidance of the
crapware that comes with any system installed by a manufacturer. If
you install it yourself you only install what you want to install.

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Old May 12th 14, 02:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 14-05-12 07:45 AM, Caver1 wrote:
On 05/12/2014 05:25 AM, Alias wrote:
Caver1 wrote:
On 05/11/2014 02:42 PM, Alias wrote:
Caver1 wrote:
Maybe if you tried to help like you did this time, instead of find my
ineptness you might get better responses.

You're not getting any more help from me.


The help you have given me here is- "you F*&^$ up" 8.1.
or if I said I didn't all you did was answer back="sure"
You call that help? If you do I don't want your help.


Had you followed the advice to reinstall Windows, you would have solved
your problem already. At this point, you're a troll as far as I'm
concerned.


When you buy a computer with Windows preinstalled you no longer get a
Windows iso disk and with the OEM version you cannot just download it.
You have to buy it. Why should I buy something again that I have already
paid for?


The recovery disks are available in a separate partition. In most cases,
the bundled Windows installation provides software which easily allows
you to make that recovery media and even reminds you to do so.

So how was I going to be able to reinstall Windows? So that that was no
solution.


There's a product key sticker on your computer. Look for it. If it's
Windows 8, your best bet is to go into the Preferences and simply click
on the option which allows you to clean the computer (including all of
the programs) to restart from scratch. Its exact name escapes me at the
moment. To get there, go into the start menu, move your cursor to the
top-right corner, then down. A menu will appear on the right side and
the last option at the bottom will bring you to the preferences which
bring you to that area.

How is trying to find a solution to a problem being a solution being a
troll? So me one place that I posted misinformation.
Believe what you want. It doesn't change the truth.


Generally, a knowledgeable computer user would have figured out how to
do this on their own and not even required any help in the first place.

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Old May 12th 14, 03:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 05/12/2014 08:00 AM, Alias wrote:



You dissed each and every advice you got just like you will this one.


No. I either explained that I had already tried that solution and it
didn't work or I tried it because I hadn't yet.
I never dissed anything. Show me 1 post where I did. You can't do it.
I refuted where certain people said as to what I did shouldn't be done
because it couldn't be done without breaking Windows, and I proved it
from MS's site that it could be done. Only those persons wouldn't
believe MS either. That's not dissing help.
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Old May 12th 14, 04:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Caver1 wrote in :

Remember I said that I had never seen Windows 8. Saying such How was I
to know. In fact I said "I don't know"



I think we're dealing with a troll, Winston. He doesn't want help. He
knows it all; just ask him.


Why do you think I am here?


I dunno. It's a Windows 8 newsgroup. Why ARE you here?

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Old May 12th 14, 05:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Caver1 wrote:
Where have I refused Help? Show me.


I advised you to reinstall Windows. You refused to do so.

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Old May 12th 14, 05:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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But you can reinstall Windows and you can download it. Either use the
DVDs you hopefully made when you got the machine or use the option in
Windows itself. If you don't know how to do that, go to the support web
site for the machine you bought. You can download a version that will
work with the product key affixed to the computer and won't come with
the bloat that OEMs put on their machines.



Yes I have restore copies made. I have been using computers long enough
to know to make backups of any OS you are using. Thanks for asking.
No Dell does not have any links to download Windows isos or any restore
to factory default disks. Nor do they have any available if you call
them. I know people that have tried. Also there are many complaints
about this on the web. Dell isn't putting much if any bloat on there
computers any more. There are a couple of Dell utilities on it. And
McAfee Internet Security 30 day trial nothing else. I wouldn't call
that bloatware myself.


That is a restore and not a reinstall. Yes I know how to make and use a
restore point. If you use your latest restore point you restore those
changes. If you use a restore point before you get rid of bloatware then
you have to deal with that again.


I'm not talking about that kind of restore. Again, sigh, go to the
website of the computer manufacturer to find out how to reinstall
Windows. On my Spanish computer, it says Recuperation Drive. That drive
has the original Windows the machine came with. How to access it can
only be known by going to the computer manufacturer's web site.
You can not download the Windows 8.1
iso with an OEM key you Have to have a retail key.


Did the machine come with 8.0 or 8.1?


I know how to boot up to a do a factory default restore.
It came with 8.1 OEM

See
http://www.eightforums.com/installat...1-oem-key.html



It stated at that site;
"You can't download from Microsoft's page, if you have Windows 8.1 OEM
product key.'
And it was repeated a couple of times. If their solution works they
wouldn't say where to get a Windows iso. I have found plenty of sites
that state download it here in the past but they were either trying to
lure you in for something else or what they had to offer was an illegal
copy.
Yes MS has generic keys out there but they wont work at MS"s site as the
were put out for the preview version of 8.1. After it quits working you
have to buy the retail version if you want it. And as being that 8.1 has
been released I doubt that you can even get the preview version any more.
The restore points wont do me any good as this problem I've had is from
the start. It wasn't one that developed as changes were made to the system.
Resetting to factory settings wont do any good either for the same reason.
How can I clean it up if I don't know what the problem is?


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Old May 12th 14, 05:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Mon, 12 May 2014 07:45:44 -0400, Caver1
wrote:


When you buy a computer with Windows preinstalled you no longer get a
Windows iso disk and with the OEM version you cannot just download it.
You have to buy it. Why should I buy something again that I have already
paid for?



Sorry, that's not at all true. No need to buy any such thing. When you
buy a computer with Windows preinstalled you get a recovery partition.
That partition can be used to used to reinstall Windows and it also
can be (*should* be) used to burn an installation DVD from it.

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Old May 12th 14, 05:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 12/05/2014 14:05, Roderick Stewart wrote:
You don't have to buy a full new copy of Windows. If you haven't made
an installation DVD yourself there are plenty of people on Ebay



It is not a good idea to buy from Ebay. If the machine was from
Toshiba, then Toshiba can send you the recovery disks. If the machine
is from DELL then it is still possible to create the recovery disks.
Recovery disks can be created even at this late stage. All you need is
to ask a specific question either here or on Microsoft Forums. I feel
sorry for the OP. The guy wants help and people have started attacking
him for nothing. I also feel guilty in this because I didn't understand
his original question. I thi9nk the OP should start a new thread about
recovering his computer and we can all start helping him. This thread
is contaminated with all sorts of industry language and it undermines
the help we are trying to give here.




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Old May 12th 14, 05:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 12/05/2014 17:27, Alias wrote:
Caver1 wrote:
Where have I refused Help? Show me.


I advised you to reinstall Windows. You refused to do so.

Alias,

He hasn't refused anything; He simply doesn't know how to do without
the disks. We should be telling him about recovery disks and all that
instead of attacking him. The guy seriously needs help and we should
help him as much as we can.



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Old May 12th 14, 06:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 05/12/2014 09:05 AM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
You don't have to buy a full new copy of Windows. If you haven't made
an installation DVD yourself there are plenty of people on Ebay
offering these for a much smaller sum reflecting just the cost of
printing and posting the disk, but without an activation code. If your
previously installed copy of Windows 8 was already activated, then you
should find that the new installation is also. I think the activation
information is either stored in the BIOS or obtained from Microsoft
when it goes online to check


From what I understand it's in the BIOS.
..

This is what I used when I replaced the hard drive in a laptop with a
solid state drive, and it works just fine. A big advantage of a
completely fresh install on a blank drive is the avoidance of the
crapware that comes with any system installed by a manufacturer. If
you install it yourself you only install what you want to install.


Yes a clean install would be nice. At the same time those on Ebay aren't
"legal" copies. Dell doesn't put any bloatware on their computers any
more.At least my wife's new Dell doesn't have any.
Istill would like to know why IE is still loading when it has been
disabled. And how it's doing it since there is no exe file for it to be
found since it was diabled.

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Old May 12th 14, 06:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 12/05/2014 18:00, Caver1 wrote:
On 05/12/2014 09:05 AM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
You don't have to buy a full new copy of Windows. If you haven't made
an installation DVD yourself there are plenty of people on Ebay
offering these for a much smaller sum reflecting just the cost of
printing and posting the disk, but without an activation code. If your
previously installed copy of Windows 8 was already activated, then you
should find that the new installation is also. I think the activation
information is either stored in the BIOS or obtained from Microsoft
when it goes online to check


From what I understand it's in the BIOS.
.

This is what I used when I replaced the hard drive in a laptop with a
solid state drive, and it works just fine. A big advantage of a
completely fresh install on a blank drive is the avoidance of the
crapware that comes with any system installed by a manufacturer. If
you install it yourself you only install what you want to install.


Yes a clean install would be nice. At the same time those on Ebay
aren't "legal" copies. Dell doesn't put any bloatware on their
computers any more.At least my wife's new Dell doesn't have any.
Istill would like to know why IE is still loading when it has been
disabled. And how it's doing it since there is no exe file for it to
be found since it was diabled.



For dell try this link:

https://www.dell.com/support/diagnostics/us/en/19/nondiagnostichome

You have to be US resident for this to work.


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Old May 12th 14, 06:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 05/12/2014 09:13 AM, Silver Slimer wrote:



How is trying to find a solution to a problem being a solution being a
troll? So me one place that I posted misinformation.
Believe what you want. It doesn't change the truth.


Generally, a knowledgeable computer user would have figured out how to
do this on their own and not even required any help in the first place.



Never said I knew everything about computers. I do have a fair
knowledge of computers. This is the first time I have gone to a
newsgroup or a forum to help solve a problem in Windows.

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Old May 12th 14, 06:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 12/05/2014 18:00, Caver1 wrote:
On 05/12/2014 09:05 AM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
You don't have to buy a full new copy of Windows. If you haven't made
an installation DVD yourself there are plenty of people on Ebay
offering these for a much smaller sum reflecting just the cost of
printing and posting the disk, but without an activation code. If your
previously installed copy of Windows 8 was already activated, then you
should find that the new installation is also. I think the activation
information is either stored in the BIOS or obtained from Microsoft
when it goes online to check


From what I understand it's in the BIOS.
.

This is what I used when I replaced the hard drive in a laptop with a
solid state drive, and it works just fine. A big advantage of a
completely fresh install on a blank drive is the avoidance of the
crapware that comes with any system installed by a manufacturer. If
you install it yourself you only install what you want to install.


Yes a clean install would be nice. At the same time those on Ebay
aren't "legal" copies. Dell doesn't put any bloatware on their
computers any more.At least my wife's new Dell doesn't have any.
Istill would like to know why IE is still loading when it has been
disabled. And how it's doing it since there is no exe file for it to
be found since it was diabled.


You might also want to read this:

http://dellwindowsreinstallationguide.com/a-clean-install-of-windows/windows-8-1-installation/


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Old May 12th 14, 06:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 14-05-12 01:13 PM, Caver1 wrote:
On 05/12/2014 09:13 AM, Silver Slimer wrote:



How is trying to find a solution to a problem being a solution being a
troll? So me one place that I posted misinformation.
Believe what you want. It doesn't change the truth.


Generally, a knowledgeable computer user would have figured out how to
do this on their own and not even required any help in the first place.



Never said I knew everything about computers. I do have a fair
knowledge of computers. This is the first time I have gone to a
newsgroup or a forum to help solve a problem in Windows.


Either way, a full reinstallation with optical media is probably not
necessary. Restarting from scratch using only the features Windows 8
puts at your disposal is likely to be enough.

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Old May 12th 14, 06:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 12/05/2014 18:18, Silver Slimer wrote:
On 14-05-12 01:13 PM, Caver1 wrote:
On 05/12/2014 09:13 AM, Silver Slimer wrote:


How is trying to find a solution to a problem being a solution being a
troll? So me one place that I posted misinformation.
Believe what you want. It doesn't change the truth.
Generally, a knowledgeable computer user would have figured out how to
do this on their own and not even required any help in the first place.


Never said I knew everything about computers. I do have a fair
knowledge of computers. This is the first time I have gone to a
newsgroup or a forum to help solve a problem in Windows.

Either way, a full reinstallation with optical media is probably not
necessary. Restarting from scratch using only the features Windows 8
puts at your disposal is likely to be enough.


I think I agree with you. The guy has got a brand new machine and all
he wants to do is to make some other browser default. Reinstalling and
recovering the machine is like using the sledge hammer to crack the nut.



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