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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:52:56 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote in article ag2dc6F9torU1 @mid.individual.net... On 11/08/2012, XS11E posted: "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy" wrote: Then don't post broken URL's. There's no such thing as a broken URL to a decent newsreader... oh, wait, you're using Thunderburp.... GD&R It was broken in Dialog & MesNews too. I suspect it was sent in pieces. There are those who say if you put angle brackets around a link it won't break, as in this test (using ZB's original): http://lifehacker.com/5958507/uninstall-your-windows-product-key-so-you-can-use-the-license-on-another-pc "Angle brackets" is what I call greater and less than signs when they are used as...well, angle brackets. Comes from physics, e.g., bra and ket. I think I tried that but just in case: http://lifehacker.com/5958507/uninst...roduct-key-so- you-can-use-the-license-on-another-pc -- Zaphod Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven years in a row. |
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:40:48 -0500, "Zaphod Beeblebrox"
wrote in article ... On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:52:56 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote in article ag2dc6F9torU1 @mid.individual.net... On 11/08/2012, XS11E posted: "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy" wrote: Then don't post broken URL's. There's no such thing as a broken URL to a decent newsreader... oh, wait, you're using Thunderburp.... GD&R It was broken in Dialog & MesNews too. I suspect it was sent in pieces. There are those who say if you put angle brackets around a link it won't break, as in this test (using ZB's original): http://lifehacker.com/5958507/uninstall-your-windows-product-key-so-you-can-use-the-license-on-another-pc "Angle brackets" is what I call greater and less than signs when they are used as...well, angle brackets. Comes from physics, e.g., bra and ket. I think I tried that but just in case: http://lifehacker.com/5958507/uninst...roduct-key-so- you-can-use-the-license-on-another-pc Oh well. Funny that Gravity preserves the long lines in quoted material (and asks me if it is OK to post them) but doesn't seem to have a way to let me enter one myself. -- Zaphod The secret of flying is to hurl yourself to the ground, and miss. |
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Upgrades are the only retail versions and nullify the prior o/s license. To put it on 2-11 one needs to install the prior o/s and
activate before Win8 can be reinstalled. OEM version are strictly sold via pc manufacturers (e.g. Dell, HP, etc.) and only for use on that pc. Personal Use (System Builder) versions replace the previous o/s retail full versions and the OEM System builder full version. (i.e. Stand-alone full retail versions from MSFT or OEM stand-alone full versions like they were in the past for Win7 and earlier o/s will not be available). The personal use version is intended for virtual environment, separate partition (e.g. dual boot), or personally built pc (they can be used for clean installs or upgrades) -- ....winston msft mvp "Gadfly" wrote in message o.uk... The retail licence can be used on a single computer until you want to keep using Win8. But only on one computer. 10 cold die on you but you can use it on number 11, but not if it is left on any of the previous 10. An OEM licence on a brand-name PC (Dell, HP, etc.) can only be used on the PC it came installed on. Changing the motherboard would require a reactivation that will fail. You'll have to buy a new licence unless you can convince Microsoft on the phone that it's the same PC with a new motherboard. Product Activation - http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/ProductActivation.htm "Ed Cryer" wrote in message ... I'm thinking of buying a copy of Win8 while it's still cheap. I won't use it until necessary as I like Win7. How long will the key last for an install? Ed |
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But in fact... Windows OEM versions have been sold to end users
for ages, and Microsoft has always known that. Almost nobody buys the retail full versions, and the main reason Microsoft has offered them has to do with pretending to relate its prices with fair market value. But in fact, Microsoft prices its (real) products to maintain its grip on its desktop software monopolies. Microsoft's operating system prices obviously have nothing to do with demand. -- "..winston" winstonmvp gmail.com wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "..winston" winstonmvp gmail.com Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-8 Subject: Win8 licence key Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 01:21:24 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 3 Message-ID: k7i8b9$s81$1 dont-email.me References: k7ba8v$ogn$1 dont-email.me TpCdnbHGovfKvAHNnZ2dnUVZ8oKdnZ2d brightview.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 06:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="53e79ddf7cc7bdc6d9c6788430da6b35"; logging-data="28929"; "; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+zOJs9k2W4NeN81/BxJr33bt/1FZEeh/M=" In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3505.912 Importance: Normal Cancel-Lock: sha1:yp8DVsx0ddAX+mnKZrREAD5mPt4= X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3505.912 Xref: mx04.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-8:1081 Upgrades are the only retail versions and nullify the prior o/s license. To put it on 2-11 one needs to install the prior o/s and activate before Win8 can be reinstalled. OEM version are strictly sold via pc manufacturers (e.g. Dell, HP, etc.) and only for use on that pc. Personal Use (System Builder) versions replace the previous o/s retail full versions and the OEM System builder full version. (i.e. Stand-alone full retail versions from MSFT or OEM stand-alone full versions like they were in the past for Win7 and earlier o/s will not be available). The personal use version is intended for virtual environment, separate partition (e.g. dual boot), or personally built pc (they can be used for clean installs or upgrades) -- ...winston msft mvp "Gadfly" wrote in message o.uk... The retail licence can be used on a single computer until you want to keep using Win8. But only on one computer. 10 cold die on you but you can use it on number 11, but not if it is left on any of the previous 10. An OEM licence on a brand-name PC (Dell, HP, etc.) can only be used on the PC it came installed on. Changing the motherboard would require a reactivation that will fail. You'll have to buy a new licence unless you can convince Microsoft on the phone that it's the same PC with a new motherboard. Product Activation - http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/ProductActivation.htm "Ed Cryer" wrote in message ... I'm thinking of buying a copy of Win8 while it's still cheap. I won't use it until necessary as I like Win7. How long will the key last for an install? Ed |
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John Doe wrote:
But in fact... Windows OEM versions have been sold to end users for ages, and Microsoft has always known that. Almost nobody buys the retail full versions, and the main reason Microsoft has offered them has to do with pretending to relate its prices with fair market value. But in fact, Microsoft prices its (real) products to maintain its grip on its desktop software monopolies. Microsoft's operating system prices obviously have nothing to do with demand. I bought the retail package at Staples the other day. I was talking to the salesman about how things had been going and he said that Win8 had been "flowing through here like a river". Ed |
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Ed Cryer wrote:
John Doe wrote: But in fact... Windows OEM versions have been sold to end users for ages, and Microsoft has always known that. Almost nobody buys the retail full versions, and the main reason Microsoft has offered them has to do with pretending to relate its prices with fair market value. But in fact, Microsoft prices its (real) products to maintain its grip on its desktop software monopolies. Microsoft's operating system prices obviously have nothing to do with demand. I bought the retail package at Staples the other day. I was talking to the salesman about how things had been going and he said that Win8 had been "flowing through here like a river". A Google search for "Windows 8 desktop popularity" gives a less enthusiastic view. -- Crash "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." ~ Winston Churchill ~ |
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:43:14 -0700, "XS11E"
wrote in article ... Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:52:56 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch" "Angle brackets" is what I call greater and less than signs when they are used as...well, angle brackets. Comes from physics, e.g., bra and ket. I think I tried that but just in case: http://lifehacker.com/5958507/uninst...-product-key-s o- you-can-use-the-license-on-another-pc Didn't work, arrived wrapped. Yup, I noticed. As always, not a problem for Xnews.... I'm happy for you. I tried Xnews and absolutely hated it so that's not going to happen. -- Zaphod Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven years in a row. |
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Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote: John Doe wrote: But in fact... Windows OEM versions have been sold to end users for ages, and Microsoft has always known that. Almost nobody buys the retail full versions, and the main reason Microsoft has offered them has to do with pretending to relate its prices with fair market value. But in fact, Microsoft prices its (real) products to maintain its grip on its desktop software monopolies. Microsoft's operating system prices obviously have nothing to do with demand. I bought the retail package at Staples the other day. I was talking to the salesman about how things had been going and he said that Win8 had been "flowing through here like a river". A Google search for "Windows 8 desktop popularity" gives a less enthusiastic view. Try "Windows 8 sales figures". Here's one hit; http://tinyurl.com/aj2wc4u Ed -- P.S. Did Churchill really say that about democracy? He was already a hero of mine; doubly so now. |
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Ed Cryer wrote:
Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: John Doe wrote: But in fact... Windows OEM versions have been sold to end users for ages, and Microsoft has always known that. Almost nobody buys the retail full versions, and the main reason Microsoft has offered them has to do with pretending to relate its prices with fair market value. But in fact, Microsoft prices its (real) products to maintain its grip on its desktop software monopolies. Microsoft's operating system prices obviously have nothing to do with demand. I bought the retail package at Staples the other day. I was talking to the salesman about how things had been going and he said that Win8 had been "flowing through here like a river". A Google search for "Windows 8 desktop popularity" gives a less enthusiastic view. Try "Windows 8 sales figures". Here's one hit; http://tinyurl.com/aj2wc4u Here's another, using that same search phrase: http://techland.time.com/2012/10/26/...is-succeeding/ Also, I am referring specifically to desktop PC's. Windows 8 might be a blockbuster on tablets. -- Crash "When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." ~ Otto von Bismarck ~ |
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That wasn't the point...the terminology in MSFT speak has changed.
OEM versions are preinstalled by the pc manufacturer Retail versions are upgrade versions Personal Use-System Builder versions are full versions and replace prior o/s 'Retail' and 'OEM' full versions. Third party retailers are still marketing the System Builder versions as OEM when in fact they are really 'Personal Use System Builder' full versions. Here's the MSFT nomenclature for each. qp OEM RETAIL UPGRADE PERSONAL USE LICENSE (SYSTEM BUILDER) FOR WINDOWS 8 PRO /qp Additionally, one can no longer purchase a full version that includes both 32 bit and 64 bit versions (the prior o/s full retail version did provide both). The Personal Use versions (like prior OEM full versions) include 32 or 64 bit, not both. -- ....winston msft mvp "John Doe" wrote in message ... But in fact... Windows OEM versions have been sold to end users for ages, and Microsoft has always known that. Almost nobody buys the retail full versions, and the main reason Microsoft has offered them has to do with pretending to relate its prices with fair market value. But in fact, Microsoft prices its (real) products to maintain its grip on its desktop software monopolies. Microsoft's operating system prices obviously have nothing to do with demand. -- "..winston" winstonmvp gmail.com wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "..winston" winstonmvp gmail.com Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-8 Subject: Win8 licence key Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 01:21:24 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 3 Message-ID: k7i8b9$s81$1 dont-email.me References: k7ba8v$ogn$1 dont-email.me TpCdnbHGovfKvAHNnZ2dnUVZ8oKdnZ2d brightview.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 06:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="53e79ddf7cc7bdc6d9c6788430da6b35"; logging-data="28929"; "; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+zOJs9k2W4NeN81/BxJr33bt/1FZEeh/M=" In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3505.912 Importance: Normal Cancel-Lock: sha1:yp8DVsx0ddAX+mnKZrREAD5mPt4= X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3505.912 Xref: mx04.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-8:1081 Upgrades are the only retail versions and nullify the prior o/s license. To put it on 2-11 one needs to install the prior o/s and activate before Win8 can be reinstalled. OEM version are strictly sold via pc manufacturers (e.g. Dell, HP, etc.) and only for use on that pc. Personal Use (System Builder) versions replace the previous o/s retail full versions and the OEM System builder full version. (i.e. Stand-alone full retail versions from MSFT or OEM stand-alone full versions like they were in the past for Win7 and earlier o/s will not be available). The personal use version is intended for virtual environment, separate partition (e.g. dual boot), or personally built pc (they can be used for clean installs or upgrades) -- ...winston msft mvp "Gadfly" wrote in message o.uk... The retail licence can be used on a single computer until you want to keep using Win8. But only on one computer. 10 cold die on you but you can use it on number 11, but not if it is left on any of the previous 10. An OEM licence on a brand-name PC (Dell, HP, etc.) can only be used on the PC it came installed on. Changing the motherboard would require a reactivation that will fail. You'll have to buy a new licence unless you can convince Microsoft on the phone that it's the same PC with a new motherboard. Product Activation - http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/ProductActivation.htm "Ed Cryer" wrote in message ... I'm thinking of buying a copy of Win8 while it's still cheap. I won't use it until necessary as I like Win7. How long will the key last for an install? Ed |
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On 11/08/2012, XS11E posted:
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:52:56 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch" "Angle brackets" is what I call greater and less than signs when they are used as...well, angle brackets. Comes from physics, e.g., bra and ket. I think I tried that but just in case: http://lifehacker.com/5958507/uninst...-product-key-s o- you-can-use-the-license-on-another-pc Didn't work, arrived wrapped. As always, not a problem for Xnews.... Oddly, it arrived complete (wrapped but not broken) in this reader (MesNews), and when I clicked on it I got to the web page. Or at least *a* web page. It was in fact the correct page... -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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