On now this is annoying: 4 pitch key

Hi All,

Just blowing off some steam.

I am erasing my preview w8 and installing my w8-oem in
a virtual. The stinkin' key on the oem package is
in 2 pitch and a lot of it written with black ink on
a dark blue background.

I had to put an ultra bright white light on it and
use the double lens on a magnifying glass. I am
sorry, but what a bunch of idiots. Not even a
child's eyes could have read it. I hope the rest
of the thing goes better.

Sorry for the steam.
-T

On 6/01/2013 6:04 PM, Todd wrote:
Hi All,

Just blowing off some steam.

I am erasing my preview w8 and installing my w8-oem in
a virtual. The stinkin' key on the oem package is
in 2 pitch and a lot of it written with black ink on
a dark blue background.

I had to put an ultra bright white light on it and
use the double lens on a magnifying glass. I am
sorry, but what a bunch of idiots. Not even a
child's eyes could have read it. I hope the rest
of the thing goes better.

Sorry for the steam.
-T


As mine is still hasn't been loaded I see what you mean.

Get yourself a 30x loop makes life easier.

Todd wrote:
Hi All,

Just blowing off some steam.

I am erasing my preview w8 and installing my w8-oem in
a virtual. The stinkin' key on the oem package is
in 2 pitch and a lot of it written with black ink on
a dark blue background.

I had to put an ultra bright white light on it and
use the double lens on a magnifying glass. I am
sorry, but what a bunch of idiots. Not even a
child's eyes could have read it. I hope the rest
of the thing goes better.

Sorry for the steam.
-T

Noted over here too :-)

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...1-3ece458593a0

Paul

On 01/06/2013 01:07 AM, Paul wrote:
Todd wrote:
Hi All,

Just blowing off some steam.

I am erasing my preview w8 and installing my w8-oem in
a virtual. The stinkin' key on the oem package is
in 2 pitch and a lot of it written with black ink on
a dark blue background.

I had to put an ultra bright white light on it and
use the double lens on a magnifying glass. I am
sorry, but what a bunch of idiots. Not even a
child's eyes could have read it. I hope the rest
of the thing goes better.

Sorry for the steam.
-T

Noted over here too :-)

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...1-3ece458593a0


Paul

We will see it M$ pays any attention. Usually they don't.

Man this stinker took FOREVER to install! It is on now.
I am leaving off the w7 look alike stuff to force me to
learn the Metro UI. AHHHHHHH!

-T

Todd wrote:

I am leaving off the w7 look alike stuff to force me to
learn the Metro UI. AHHHHHHH!

Let us know how that goes ...

On 6/01/2013 8:07 PM, Paul wrote:
Todd wrote:
Hi All,

Just blowing off some steam.

I am erasing my preview w8 and installing my w8-oem in
a virtual. The stinkin' key on the oem package is
in 2 pitch and a lot of it written with black ink on
a dark blue background.

I had to put an ultra bright white light on it and
use the double lens on a magnifying glass. I am
sorry, but what a bunch of idiots. Not even a
child's eyes could have read it. I hope the rest
of the thing goes better.

Sorry for the steam.
-T

Noted over here too :-)

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...1-3ece458593a0


Paul


Maybe its because everyone is supposedly buying the upgrade and do a
direct download which has the key included.

"Todd" wrote:

I am erasing my preview w8 and installing my w8-oem in
a virtual. The stinkin' key on the oem package is
in 2 pitch and a lot of it written with black ink on
a dark blue background.

I had to put an ultra bright white light on it and
use the double lens on a magnifying glass. I am
sorry, but what a bunch of idiots. Not even a
child's eyes could have read it. I hope the rest
of the thing goes better.

If it's any consolation, one of the most absurd examples of poor font/size
for the serial number sticker was from Adobe. IIRC this was on Acrobat
version 6 where the font used was small, blurred, and included letterforms
that were ambiguous; more recent versions didn't repeat that stupidity.

You would think that a company that sells so many excellent fonts would have
paid attention to details like this.

Joe

"Todd" wrote:

Man this stinker took FOREVER to install! It is on now.

What part of the install is taking a long time? Compared to installing
Windows XP, setup for Windows 8 runs blazingly fast. I'm running an
automated install, which cuts down on the delays caused by waiting for user
responses, but that doesn't in and of itself significantly affect the time
required for an installation.

One of the slowest parts is from within one of my scripts, where I install
..NET 3.5 from the files on the DVD (i.e., not downloading anything). Given
the number of .NET applications written to .NET 2 or 3 (both of which are
supported in 3.5) I'm mystified as to why Microsoft didn't make this part of
the base configuration.

Or maybe I shouldn't be so mystified; Microsoft has some very strange ideas
about the needs of its customers.

Joe

On 2013-01-06, Joe Morris wrote:
"Todd" wrote:

I am erasing my preview w8 and installing my w8-oem in
a virtual. The stinkin' key on the oem package is
in 2 pitch and a lot of it written with black ink on
a dark blue background.

I had to put an ultra bright white light on it and
use the double lens on a magnifying glass. I am
sorry, but what a bunch of idiots. Not even a
child's eyes could have read it. I hope the rest
of the thing goes better.

If it's any consolation, one of the most absurd examples of poor font/size
for the serial number sticker was from Adobe. IIRC this was on Acrobat
version 6 where the font used was small, blurred, and included letterforms
that were ambiguous; more recent versions didn't repeat that stupidity.

You would think that a company that sells so many excellent fonts would have
paid attention to details like this.

Joe


It is the Jobs-Apple way. The macs have tiny system fonts that cannot
be changed; I checked because I also have a mini-mac for "use" only
because of the "fink" software that allows me to do unix-bsd.

The complaints of the tiny system fonts have been around since 2005
& have seen referencees to 1998. microsoft has default tiny fonts even
on their own dialogue boxes which the vendors followed; there have been
some improvement in some win7 appps but vendors still do tiny fonts that
don't account for the large hi resolution monitors. I appears that the
higher the resolution, the tinyer the fonts unless one degrades the
hi resolution which defeats its purchase.

On 06/01/2013 18:08, anotherpaul wrote:
On 2013-01-06, Joe Morris wrote:
"Todd" wrote:

I am erasing my preview w8 and installing my w8-oem in
a virtual. The stinkin' key on the oem package is
in 2 pitch and a lot of it written with black ink on
a dark blue background.

I had to put an ultra bright white light on it and
use the double lens on a magnifying glass. I am
sorry, but what a bunch of idiots. Not even a
child's eyes could have read it. I hope the rest
of the thing goes better.

If it's any consolation, one of the most absurd examples of poor font/size
for the serial number sticker was from Adobe. IIRC this was on Acrobat
version 6 where the font used was small, blurred, and included letterforms
that were ambiguous; more recent versions didn't repeat that stupidity.

You would think that a company that sells so many excellent fonts would have
paid attention to details like this.

Joe


It is the Jobs-Apple way. The macs have tiny system fonts that cannot
be changed; I checked because I also have a mini-mac for "use" only
because of the "fink" software that allows me to do unix-bsd.

The complaints of the tiny system fonts have been around since 2005
& have seen referencees to 1998. microsoft has default tiny fonts even
on their own dialogue boxes which the vendors followed; there have been
some improvement in some win7 appps but vendors still do tiny fonts that
don't account for the large hi resolution monitors. I appears that the
higher the resolution, the tinyer the fonts unless one degrades the
hi resolution which defeats its purchase.


Replyquestion error at line 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.........

On 01/06/2013 07:41 AM, Joe Morris wrote:
"Todd" wrote:

Man this stinker took FOREVER to install! It is on now.

What part of the install is taking a long time? Compared to installing
Windows XP, setup for Windows 8 runs blazingly fast. I'm running an
automated install, which cuts down on the delays caused by waiting for user
responses, but that doesn't in and of itself significantly affect the time
required for an installation.

One of the slowest parts is from within one of my scripts, where I install
.NET 3.5 from the files on the DVD (i.e., not downloading anything). Given
the number of .NET applications written to .NET 2 or 3 (both of which are
supported in 3.5) I'm mystified as to why Microsoft didn't make this part of
the base configuration.


Hi Joe,

The slow part was the sitting at the four box windows logo
for about 30 minutes. My Virtual Machine manager showed
virtually CPU activity. I thought it had frozen. So, I
wiped and started over twice, before I just left it do
its thing.

Or maybe I shouldn't be so mystified; Microsoft has some
very strange ideas
about the needs of its customers.

1+

Joe

-T

On 01/06/2013 03:47 AM, Rob wrote:
On 6/01/2013 8:07 PM, Paul wrote:
Todd wrote:
Hi All,

Just blowing off some steam.

I am erasing my preview w8 and installing my w8-oem in
a virtual. The stinkin' key on the oem package is
in 2 pitch and a lot of it written with black ink on
a dark blue background.

I had to put an ultra bright white light on it and
use the double lens on a magnifying glass. I am
sorry, but what a bunch of idiots. Not even a
child's eyes could have read it. I hope the rest
of the thing goes better.

Sorry for the steam.
-T

Noted over here too :-)

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...1-3ece458593a0



Paul


Maybe its because everyone is supposedly buying the upgrade and do a
direct download which has the key included.

And no one will be buying a new computer. Geez!

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 09:09:33 -0800, Todd wrote:


The slow part was the sitting at the four box windows logo
for about 30 minutes.


Not an attack on you, or anything like that, but just a comment. Those
four things you call "boxes" are meant to be, I assume, panes of glass
in a window.


Or maybe I shouldn't be so mystified; Microsoft has some
very strange ideas
about the needs of its customers.

1+


Ditto from me too. Not all the time, but at least some of the time.


--
Ken Blake

On 01/07/2013 10:49 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 09:09:33 -0800, Todd wrote:


The slow part was the sitting at the four box windows logo
for about 30 minutes.


Not an attack on you, or anything like that, but just a comment.

No offense taken.

Those
four things you call "boxes" are meant to be, I assume, panes of glass
in a window.

And they are being used as a "Please Wait" indicator. Since
my VM manager said nothing was going on, it was easy for me to
think it had crashed.


Or maybe I shouldn't be so mystified; Microsoft has some
very strange ideas
about the needs of its customers.

1+


Ditto from me too. Not all the time, but at least some of the time.