All Apps icon from the desktop?

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:40:21 -0800, Todd wrote:

I was guessing he meant mouse pad, but the context seemed to allow for a
bit of ambiguity :-)

Or sometimes it is called a Glide Pad.

I had not previously heard of either glide pad or slide pad.

I had a customer that bought a pail of them for his business
years back. I hated the things. So did every one else,
but him. He eventually relented and let everyone else
use regular mice. Eventually he did too.

I use my mouse pad; others I know hate them. A clear case of either (a)
personal preference, or (b) I don't use it enough to get annoyed :-)

You can not rest your wrist on them. So your arm gets
tired of having to hold your hand in the air all the
time. (Hmmmm, I wonder if the W8 designers thought about
holding your arms in the air to operate a touch screen
monitor on a desktop?)

I have seen some comments, but I forget where, from people who think
that using a touch screen on a desktop, or even a laptop, will be
fatiguing. They seem to think it'll be OK for a tablet.

I agree with you and with them, and I haven't even tried it :-)

My friend one computer over plays FreeCell on the touch screen of her
Windows 7 all-in-one desktop computer. It doesn't seem to bother her,
but she's not available to ask at this moment. I don't think she uses
the touchscreen for other things, but I don't know.

Sometimes, my Windows laptop users have me disable the
glide/slide pad and revert to an external mouse so they
can type in peace with their wrist laying on the
glide/slide pad. (The "P" in "PC" stands for personal.)

I am rambling.

:-)

-T

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

You're going to have to clarify where a router admin settings (192.168.1.1) including accessing its configuration menu comes into
play here and any relation to Windows 8 features - Start Screen (Modern UI), All Apps, and Control Panel

--
....winston
msft mvp


"Todd" wrote in message ...

On 01/13/2013 11:04 PM, ..winston wrote:

"Todd" wrote in message ...

Apparently, when in the Desktop, you can get the Control
Panel from the Setup pop up. But, when in the Idiot Screen,
you have to get it from All Apps.

In All Apps, just right click on the Control Panel tile and
select Pin to Start Screen.

I keep forgetting I can do that. Then I could remove it
before giving it back to the customer.


Once the tile is on the Start Screen you can move (drag) it to
another location or tile group.

Did this with Firefox. (IE wouldn't let me talk to her
router. Just kept searching Bing for 192.168.1.1.) Hand
got tired and whacked the slide pad by accident. Took me
several tries. I hate slide pads. Should have done this with
Control Panel too.


Alternately, from the Modern UI (Start Screen) just start
typing Control Panel...the first few letters should be
sufficient to enable the Search engine and show
an icon for the Control Panel (click it to open)

This is the only way I found Paint. (I needed to copy a screen
shot of her router config.) Never did figure where Paint
actually resided.

- likewise that icon can also be rt. clicked and added
to the Start Screen


Cool. Thank you for the tips!

-T

I know I can create a w7 style Start button in the Desktop,
but I really want to force myself to learn the new way.
Hope I do not loose my mind in the process.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:55:16 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch" not-
lid wrote in article
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:40:21 -0800, Todd wrote:

I was guessing he meant mouse pad, but the context seemed to allow for a
bit of ambiguity :-)

Or sometimes it is called a Glide Pad.

I had not previously heard of either glide pad or slide pad.

Nor I - or if I did, I wasn't paying attention.

I had a customer that bought a pail of them for his business
years back. I hated the things. So did every one else,
but him. He eventually relented and let everyone else
use regular mice. Eventually he did too.

I use my mouse pad; others I know hate them. A clear case of either (a)
personal preference, or (b) I don't use it enough to get annoyed :-)

I also like them, but know several people who don't - emphatically.

You can not rest your wrist on them. So your arm gets
tired of having to hold your hand in the air all the
time. (Hmmmm, I wonder if the W8 designers thought about
holding your arms in the air to operate a touch screen
monitor on a desktop?)

I have seen some comments, but I forget where, from people who think
that using a touch screen on a desktop, or even a laptop, will be
fatiguing. They seem to think it'll be OK for a tablet.

I agree with you and with them, and I haven't even tried it :-)


Having used Windows 8 both on a desktop PC with a touch screen and on a
tablet, I agree - for a desktop, it is too tiring but on a tablet it
works well. That also mimics my opinion of the new Windows 8 UI...

--
Zaphod

Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, ya know? - Gag Halfrunt

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0800, Todd wrote:

On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:

I hate slide pads.

What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?

They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
They are sometimes called "Touch Pads". Here is
a picture of one:

http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...g/touchpad.gif

For one, I had never heard of the term "slide pad", and Google
was not any help. "touch pad" is the term that I have heard.

Don't lay your wrist down on one or all hell
breaks loose under W8.

Depending on what your hands are like, you might not even have to
touch it. Maybe, it is my extremely dry hands, but I have clicked
using one when I was not even touching it. I checked later, and I was
able to cause a click action when my finger was about 1/16" away from
the touchpad.

Guess who much prefers a regular mouse with his laptop.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

On 01/14/2013 10:57 AM, ..winston wrote:
You're going to have to clarify where a router admin settings
(192.168.1.1) including accessing its configuration menu comes into play
here and any relation to Windows 8 features - Start Screen (Modern UI),
All Apps, and Control Panel

I am not sure what you are getting at. But, W8 comes with IE
and Bing preinstalled. So unless you install Chrome or Firefox,
it is a pain in the neck to configure a consumer level router.

There is a work around. Press ctrlO and type the I.P.
directly into the box. (Note: Cltr not Win and the letter
"O" not zero.)

As a security enhancement, it is a good idea to get your
customers off IE anyway. I was just trying to save time.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0800, Todd wrote:

On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:
Hi, Todd.

I hate slide pads.

What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?

RC

They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
They are sometimes called "Touch Pads".


I, and the rest of us here I'm sure, certainly know what a touchpad
is. But I've never hear it called a "slide pad" before.


--
Ken Blake

On 01/14/2013 04:42 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0800, Todd wrote:

On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:
Hi, Todd.

I hate slide pads.

What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?

RC

They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
They are sometimes called "Touch Pads".


I, and the rest of us here I'm sure, certainly know what a touchpad
is. But I've never hear it called a "slide pad" before.

I may be remembering something from 15 years ago

On 01/14/2013 06:25 PM, Todd wrote:
On 01/14/2013 04:42 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0800, Todd wrote:

On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:
Hi, Todd.

I hate slide pads.

What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?

RC

They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
They are sometimes called "Touch Pads".


I, and the rest of us here I'm sure, certainly know what a touchpad
is. But I've never hear it called a "slide pad" before.

I may be remembering something from 15 years ago


I went looking to see if I could even find mention of
those external abominations from 15 years ago. Could not
find a thing. (Maybe they were blocked from memory.)

I may be remembering some trade name.

My point...the router has nothing to do with All Apps or the Windows Start Screen or the Windows Control Panel (which was your
original purpose in asking a question)

Bing has nothing to do with setting up a router.

Every single router I've configured on Win8 has been done without the need for Chrome or Firefox.
- no workaround
- IE10 (Desktop)


To access the router admin I just type the ip address into the browser's address bar.

Another question if I may...
- were you using IE 10 Modern UI/Start Screen (fka IE Metro which operates in full screen, no menu/command bar mode) when
attempting to configure a router or were you using IE10 Desktop which provides the traditional IE browser mode ?



--
....winston
msft mvp


"Todd" wrote in message ...

On 01/14/2013 10:57 AM, ..winston wrote:
You're going to have to clarify where a router admin settings
(192.168.1.1) including accessing its configuration menu comes into play
here and any relation to Windows 8 features - Start Screen (Modern UI),
All Apps, and Control Panel

I am not sure what you are getting at. But, W8 comes with IE
and Bing preinstalled. So unless you install Chrome or Firefox,
it is a pain in the neck to configure a consumer level router.

There is a work around. Press ctrlO and type the I.P.
directly into the box. (Note: Cltr not Win and the letter
"O" not zero.)

As a security enhancement, it is a good idea to get your
customers off IE anyway. I was just trying to save time.

On 01/14/2013 10:26 PM, ..winston wrote:
My point...the router has nothing to do with All Apps or the Windows
Start Screen or the Windows Control Panel (which was your
original purpose in asking a question)

Topics can tend to drift. Especially amongst friends.

Bing has nothing to do with setting up a router.

Things settled down after I removed Bing and installed
Google as the search tool. Bing is terrible anyway.
Better off without it. Could not figure out how to get
Start Page (my favorite) installed. Perhaps for W8
friendly yet. I make Start Page her home page.

Every single router I've configured on Win8 has been done without the
need for Chrome or Firefox.
- no workaround
- IE10 (Desktop)

Perhaps some routers are different. I got the ctrlO tip
from Frontier tech support. They are the ones who identified
the Bing problem for me. When you typed in the IP, the IP resolved
to a huge, long string of stuff that was not in the router.


To access the router admin I just type the ip address into the browser's
address bar.

Another question if I may...
- were you using IE 10 Modern UI/Start Screen (fka IE Metro which
operates in full screen, no menu/command bar mode) when attempting to
configure a router or were you using IE10 Desktop which provides the
traditional IE browser mode ?

I started IE from the Desktop. Not for any particular reason
other than the customer was in Desktop when she handed it to me.
I thought she was using W7 for about 30 seconds before I uttered
my first swear word. (I got a lot of retraining to get use to W8.
Folks are going to need a lot of help.)

-T

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:25:20 -0800, Todd wrote:

On 01/14/2013 04:42 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0800, Todd wrote:

On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:
Hi, Todd.

I hate slide pads.

What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?

RC

They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
They are sometimes called "Touch Pads".


I, and the rest of us here I'm sure, certainly know what a touchpad
is. But I've never hear it called a "slide pad" before.

I may be remembering something from 15 years ago


I've been using computers since 1962, and personal computers since
1987. I don't remember coming across the term "slide pad" fifteen
years ago or any time before then either.

I suppose it's possible that I heard or saw the term somewhere and
have just forgotten, but it's not possible that it was commonly used,
or I wouldn't have forgotten it.



--
Ken Blake

On 01/15/2013 08:27 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:25:20 -0800, Todd wrote:

On 01/14/2013 04:42 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0800, Todd wrote:

On 01/14/2013 07:54 AM, R. C. White wrote:
Hi, Todd.

I hate slide pads.

What is a "slide pad"? Is that a new term you've invented? Or is it
something that comes with a touch screen - which I do not have?

RC

They are usually found on laptops. It is the touch
sensitive area, usually above the mouse buttons,
that you use your fingers on to move the mouse.
They are sometimes called "Touch Pads".


I, and the rest of us here I'm sure, certainly know what a touchpad
is. But I've never hear it called a "slide pad" before.

I may be remembering something from 15 years ago


I've been using computers since 1962, and personal computers since
1987. I don't remember coming across the term "slide pad" fifteen
years ago or any time before then either.

I suppose it's possible that I heard or saw the term somewhere and
have just forgotten, but it's not possible that it was commonly used,
or I wouldn't have forgotten it.

I may also have my head up my ...