WIndows 8.1 upgrade stops computer

It happened again this morning. I turned on the computer, and tried to
access the internet with Firefox. FF error out and wanted to be reset.
As usual I rebooted the Windows 8.1 computer, and FF started and work
perfectly. I then tried to access my email and newsgroups with
Thunderbird. TB worked for a while then appeared to lock up, I
rebooted the computer, and that allowed me to access thunderbird, but it
would not work. I rebooted again and I got a message that there was a
Windows 8.1 update. The update was a couple of MB that took 5 minutes to
download. The connection normally runs at 3mb. After the update was
complete, I rebooted the computer even though it did not say it was
needed and now the computer is working.

Why does Windows 8.1 upgrade need to interfere with the computer
operation until the upgrade is installed

On 9/24/2014 7:55 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
It happened again this morning. I turned on the computer, and tried to
access the internet with Firefox. FF error out and wanted to be reset.
As usual I rebooted the Windows 8.1 computer, and FF started and work
perfectly. I then tried to access my email and newsgroups with
Thunderbird. TB worked for a while then appeared to lock up, I
rebooted the computer, and that allowed me to access thunderbird, but it
would not work. I rebooted again and I got a message that there was a
Windows 8.1 update. The update was a couple of MB that took 5 minutes to
download. The connection normally runs at 3mb. After the update was
complete, I rebooted the computer even though it did not say it was
needed and now the computer is working.

Why does Windows 8.1 upgrade need to interfere with the computer
operation until the upgrade is installed

Is the computer using a wireless connection?
Some of the wireless drivers can cause the problems you mentioned.
I suspect that the drivers in question are sensitive to a change
between win 7 and 8. Has to do with buss resets and USB.

Keith Nuttle wrote:
It happened again this morning. I turned on the computer, and tried
to access the internet with Firefox. FF error out and wanted to be
reset. As usual I rebooted the Windows 8.1 computer, and FF started
and work perfectly. I then tried to access my email and newsgroups
with Thunderbird. TB worked for a while then appeared to lock up,
I rebooted the computer, and that allowed me to access thunderbird,
but it would not work. I rebooted again and I got a message that
there was a Windows 8.1 update. The update was a couple of MB that
took 5 minutes to download. The connection normally runs at 3mb.
After the update was complete, I rebooted the computer even though it
did not say it was needed and now the computer is working.

Why does Windows 8.1 upgrade need to interfere with the computer
operation until the upgrade is installed

Since you are having repeated problems with the Windows upgrade process
while others of us have experienced no such difficulties, it may be a good
idea to take a closer look at your computer. It seems to me that it may not
be completely compatible with Win8.1.
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best regards,

Neil

On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 07:55:26 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:

Why does Windows 8.1 upgrade need to interfere with the computer
operation until the upgrade is installed

It doesn't. You have a problem with the computer or with your internet
connection.

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Keith Nuttle wrote:
It happened again this morning. I turned on the computer, and tried to
access the internet with Firefox. FF error out and wanted to be reset.
As usual I rebooted the Windows 8.1 computer, and FF started and work
perfectly. I then tried to access my email and newsgroups with
Thunderbird. TB worked for a while then appeared to lock up, I
rebooted the computer, and that allowed me to access thunderbird, but it
would not work. I rebooted again and I got a message that there was a
Windows 8.1 update. The update was a couple of MB that took 5 minutes to
download. The connection normally runs at 3mb. After the update was
complete, I rebooted the computer even though it did not say it was
needed and now the computer is working.

Why does Windows 8.1 upgrade need to interfere with the computer
operation until the upgrade is installed

What was the Windows 8.1 update ?


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...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

Charlie wrote:
On 9/24/2014 7:55 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
It happened again this morning. I turned on the computer, and tried to
access the internet with Firefox. FF error out and wanted to be reset.
As usual I rebooted the Windows 8.1 computer, and FF started and work
perfectly. I then tried to access my email and newsgroups with
Thunderbird. TB worked for a while then appeared to lock up, I
rebooted the computer, and that allowed me to access thunderbird, but it
would not work. I rebooted again and I got a message that there was a
Windows 8.1 update. The update was a couple of MB that took 5 minutes to
download. The connection normally runs at 3mb. After the update was
complete, I rebooted the computer even though it did not say it was
needed and now the computer is working.

Why does Windows 8.1 upgrade need to interfere with the computer
operation until the upgrade is installed

Is the computer using a wireless connection?
Some of the wireless drivers can cause the problems you mentioned.
I suspect that the drivers in question are sensitive to a change
between win 7 and 8. Has to do with buss resets and USB.
?

Between Win7 and Win8 ?
- there was no mention of Win7...based on the info only 8.1 was
involved thus differences between 7/8, buss resets, usb would be a poor
guess.


--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On 9/25/2014 3:35 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
It happened again this morning. I turned on the computer, and tried to
access the internet with Firefox. FF error out and wanted to be reset.
As usual I rebooted the Windows 8.1 computer, and FF started and work
perfectly. I then tried to access my email and newsgroups with
Thunderbird. TB worked for a while then appeared to lock up, I
rebooted the computer, and that allowed me to access thunderbird, but it
would not work. I rebooted again and I got a message that there was a
Windows 8.1 update. The update was a couple of MB that took 5 minutes to
download. The connection normally runs at 3mb. After the update was
complete, I rebooted the computer even though it did not say it was
needed and now the computer is working.

Why does Windows 8.1 upgrade need to interfere with the computer
operation until the upgrade is installed

What was the Windows 8.1 update ?


In this most recent event KB2998527 and KB2990967.

But as I said this has been going on for months.

The computer is a laptop and set to accept notifications of upgrades,
not install them automatically

Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 9/25/2014 3:35 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
It happened again this morning. I turned on the computer, and tried to
access the internet with Firefox. FF error out and wanted to be reset.
As usual I rebooted the Windows 8.1 computer, and FF started and work
perfectly. I then tried to access my email and newsgroups with
Thunderbird. TB worked for a while then appeared to lock up, I
rebooted the computer, and that allowed me to access thunderbird, but it
would not work. I rebooted again and I got a message that there was a
Windows 8.1 update. The update was a couple of MB that took 5 minutes to
download. The connection normally runs at 3mb. After the update was
complete, I rebooted the computer even though it did not say it was
needed and now the computer is working.

Why does Windows 8.1 upgrade need to interfere with the computer
operation until the upgrade is installed

What was the Windows 8.1 update ?


In this most recent event KB2998527 and KB2990967.

But as I said this has been going on for months.

The computer is a laptop and set to accept notifications of upgrades,
not install them automatically



Doubtful that a Time Zone and One Drive update have any impact on FF
requiring a reset to function or TB lockup. The notification to
download and/or install also is an unlikely factor.



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...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On 9/25/2014 3:37 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Charlie wrote:
On 9/24/2014 7:55 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
It happened again this morning. I turned on the computer, and tried to
access the internet with Firefox. FF error out and wanted to be reset.
As usual I rebooted the Windows 8.1 computer, and FF started and work
perfectly. I then tried to access my email and newsgroups with
Thunderbird. TB worked for a while then appeared to lock up, I
rebooted the computer, and that allowed me to access thunderbird, but it
would not work. I rebooted again and I got a message that there was a
Windows 8.1 update. The update was a couple of MB that took 5 minutes to
download. The connection normally runs at 3mb. After the update was
complete, I rebooted the computer even though it did not say it was
needed and now the computer is working.

Why does Windows 8.1 upgrade need to interfere with the computer
operation until the upgrade is installed

Is the computer using a wireless connection?
Some of the wireless drivers can cause the problems you mentioned.
I suspect that the drivers in question are sensitive to a change
between win 7 and 8. Has to do with buss resets and USB.
?

Between Win7 and Win8 ?
- there was no mention of Win7...based on the info only 8.1 was
involved thus differences between 7/8, buss resets, usb would be a poor
guess.


That's the only difference I noticed between my win 7 and win 8 desktop
behavior during the update process. Admittedly, it may be win 8 AMD
support chip drivers. The win 8 machine was shutting down the Wi-FI
connection to the router, then bringing it back up, but windows
did not reconnect to the USB / wi fi adapter. The status led
indicates that it's up. A reboot, or removing and re-inserting the
adapter into the USB socket makes the problem go away.
The number of observable USB Buss resets is greater with Win 8 than 7
and 8.1 ???