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  #1  
Old January 15th 15, 06:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
giorgio.m76
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Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello


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  #2  
Old January 15th 15, 06:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello


The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.

Paul
  #3  
Old January 15th 15, 06:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Posts: 18,275
Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello


The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.

Paul
  #4  
Old January 15th 15, 07:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 01:53:05 -0500, Paul wrote:

giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello


The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.


I'm curious, why is flac support interesting? We've had flac support for a
decade or more. Will it be different somehow in the new OS?

  #5  
Old January 15th 15, 07:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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Posts: 10,449
Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 01:53:05 -0500, Paul wrote:

giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello


The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.


I'm curious, why is flac support interesting? We've had flac support for a
decade or more. Will it be different somehow in the new OS?

  #6  
Old January 15th 15, 08:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 01:53:05 -0500, Paul wrote:

giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello

The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.


I'm curious, why is flac support interesting? We've had flac support for a
decade or more. Will it be different somehow in the new OS?


For me, it's the perception of it being the "only new feature".
It was announced well before being available, and they could
just as easily announced it when it was actually available
(in the currently delivered build).

The rest of Win10TP has been "deck chair movement".

On my WinXP install here, GSpot lists FLAC in the CODEC
list, but actual FLAC files cannot be played. They can be
played in third party tools (like VLC). So it's not like
I can't play them. I actually had to hunt down some
FLAC test files, because it's not a format I've used before.
But getting something from Microsoft is like "Christmas".
The Windows Media Center in Windows 8 (optional add-on),
gives you a grand total of two new codecs for your money.
So getting CODECS out of Microsoft, is like extracting
pocket change from Scrooge McDuck :-)

Paul
  #7  
Old January 15th 15, 08:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Posts: 18,275
Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 01:53:05 -0500, Paul wrote:

giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello

The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.


I'm curious, why is flac support interesting? We've had flac support for a
decade or more. Will it be different somehow in the new OS?


For me, it's the perception of it being the "only new feature".
It was announced well before being available, and they could
just as easily announced it when it was actually available
(in the currently delivered build).

The rest of Win10TP has been "deck chair movement".

On my WinXP install here, GSpot lists FLAC in the CODEC
list, but actual FLAC files cannot be played. They can be
played in third party tools (like VLC). So it's not like
I can't play them. I actually had to hunt down some
FLAC test files, because it's not a format I've used before.
But getting something from Microsoft is like "Christmas".
The Windows Media Center in Windows 8 (optional add-on),
gives you a grand total of two new codecs for your money.
So getting CODECS out of Microsoft, is like extracting
pocket change from Scrooge McDuck :-)

Paul
  #8  
Old January 15th 15, 03:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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Posts: 10,449
Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 03:16:22 -0500, Paul wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 01:53:05 -0500, Paul wrote:

giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello
The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.


I'm curious, why is flac support interesting? We've had flac support for a
decade or more. Will it be different somehow in the new OS?


For me, it's the perception of it being the "only new feature".
It was announced well before being available, and they could
just as easily announced it when it was actually available
(in the currently delivered build).

The rest of Win10TP has been "deck chair movement".

On my WinXP install here, GSpot lists FLAC in the CODEC
list, but actual FLAC files cannot be played. They can be
played in third party tools (like VLC). So it's not like
I can't play them. I actually had to hunt down some
FLAC test files, because it's not a format I've used before.
But getting something from Microsoft is like "Christmas".
The Windows Media Center in Windows 8 (optional add-on),
gives you a grand total of two new codecs for your money.
So getting CODECS out of Microsoft, is like extracting
pocket change from Scrooge McDuck :-)


I can't even call it a new feature, even if it's technically new to Windows.
I don't think MS had to pay anything to include it, (it's free, after all),
and it's been freely available since forever, so I don't see the big deal.

Those of us who are interested in lossless digital music formats have
probably been using flac since it became available, somewhere around 2001.
I don't mind if MS wants to start including it in their new OS, but I just
hope they don't somehow screw it up for the rest of us.

  #9  
Old January 15th 15, 03:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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Posts: 10,449
Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 03:16:22 -0500, Paul wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 01:53:05 -0500, Paul wrote:

giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello
The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.


I'm curious, why is flac support interesting? We've had flac support for a
decade or more. Will it be different somehow in the new OS?


For me, it's the perception of it being the "only new feature".
It was announced well before being available, and they could
just as easily announced it when it was actually available
(in the currently delivered build).

The rest of Win10TP has been "deck chair movement".

On my WinXP install here, GSpot lists FLAC in the CODEC
list, but actual FLAC files cannot be played. They can be
played in third party tools (like VLC). So it's not like
I can't play them. I actually had to hunt down some
FLAC test files, because it's not a format I've used before.
But getting something from Microsoft is like "Christmas".
The Windows Media Center in Windows 8 (optional add-on),
gives you a grand total of two new codecs for your money.
So getting CODECS out of Microsoft, is like extracting
pocket change from Scrooge McDuck :-)


I can't even call it a new feature, even if it's technically new to Windows.
I don't think MS had to pay anything to include it, (it's free, after all),
and it's been freely available since forever, so I don't see the big deal.

Those of us who are interested in lossless digital music formats have
probably been using flac since it became available, somewhere around 2001.
I don't mind if MS wants to start including it in their new OS, but I just
hope they don't somehow screw it up for the rest of us.

  #10  
Old January 15th 15, 07:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Big_Al[_4_]
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Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

Paul wrote on 1/15/2015 1:53 AM:
giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello


The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.

Paul

I "joined" the test and downloaded the first version, and it has updated to the latest version constantly. But my VM
crashed so I had to reload the ISO. I got it not from that join but from another MS link and just downloaded it.
They compare at least byte wise to each other but I when I check for new build since I'm one behind right now, there is
none available.
I also don't see where that fast/slow mode thing they talk about is. So I wonder if I really do have a different ISO.

  #11  
Old January 15th 15, 07:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Big_Al[_4_]
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Posts: 431
Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

Paul wrote on 1/15/2015 1:53 AM:
giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello


The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.

Paul

I "joined" the test and downloaded the first version, and it has updated to the latest version constantly. But my VM
crashed so I had to reload the ISO. I got it not from that join but from another MS link and just downloaded it.
They compare at least byte wise to each other but I when I check for new build since I'm one behind right now, there is
none available.
I also don't see where that fast/slow mode thing they talk about is. So I wonder if I really do have a different ISO.

  #12  
Old January 15th 15, 09:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Posts: 18,275
Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

Big_Al wrote:
Paul wrote on 1/15/2015 1:53 AM:
giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello

The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.

Paul

I "joined" the test and downloaded the first version, and it has updated to the latest version constantly. But my VM
crashed so I had to reload the ISO. I got it not from that join but from another MS link and just downloaded it.
They compare at least byte wise to each other but I when I check for new build since I'm one behind right now, there is
none available.
I also don't see where that fast/slow mode thing they talk about is. So I wonder if I really do have a different ISO.


PC Settings : Update and Recovery : Preview Builds ?

There is a "Change the way..." link there.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

I didn't know about that, until I saw it in some promotional
material from Microsoft, with a picture of one of their managers
on the page. (The same guy that was onstage at the BUILD conference.)

Paul
  #13  
Old January 15th 15, 09:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Posts: 18,275
Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

Big_Al wrote:
Paul wrote on 1/15/2015 1:53 AM:
giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello

The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.

Paul

I "joined" the test and downloaded the first version, and it has updated to the latest version constantly. But my VM
crashed so I had to reload the ISO. I got it not from that join but from another MS link and just downloaded it.
They compare at least byte wise to each other but I when I check for new build since I'm one behind right now, there is
none available.
I also don't see where that fast/slow mode thing they talk about is. So I wonder if I really do have a different ISO.


PC Settings : Update and Recovery : Preview Builds ?

There is a "Change the way..." link there.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

I didn't know about that, until I saw it in some promotional
material from Microsoft, with a picture of one of their managers
on the page. (The same guy that was onstage at the BUILD conference.)

Paul
  #14  
Old January 15th 15, 11:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Big_Al[_4_]
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Posts: 431
Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

Paul wrote on 1/15/2015 4:46 PM:
Big_Al wrote:
Paul wrote on 1/15/2015 1:53 AM:
giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello
The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.

Paul

I "joined" the test and downloaded the first version, and it has updated to the latest version constantly. But my VM
crashed so I had to reload the ISO. I got it not from that join but from another MS link and just downloaded it.
They compare at least byte wise to each other but I when I check for new build since I'm one behind right now, there is
none available.
I also don't see where that fast/slow mode thing they talk about is. So I wonder if I really do have a different ISO.


PC Settings : Update and Recovery : Preview Builds ?

There is a "Change the way..." link there.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

I didn't know about that, until I saw it in some promotional
material from Microsoft, with a picture of one of their managers
on the page. (The same guy that was onstage at the BUILD conference.)

Paul

I found this link
http://www.krauspe.eu/r/Windows10/co...preview_build/
I changed the registry setting this points to and that allowed me to download the next build.

I'm almost sure I looked at that 'change the way..." link but it didn't seem to have anything that applied to getting
builds. Of course I have the latest builds and then immediately there were updates to that build so I'm up to date
now, maybe that link is different.

  #15  
Old January 15th 15, 11:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Big_Al[_4_]
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Default Downloaded Win10 TP without registration ProgramInsider

Paul wrote on 1/15/2015 4:46 PM:
Big_Al wrote:
Paul wrote on 1/15/2015 1:53 AM:
giorgio.m76 wrote:
I downloaded W10TP wanted to know if this TP contains the previously builds
released?
I can download builds only if enrolled in the program-insider?
And how does the MS to recognize the WindowsUpdate if they are registered or
not?
hello
The Microsoft webpage with Win10TP on it, still has the
originally released version. I used the checksum value listed,
and compared to my copies. And what is offered there, has not
changed since it was released.

There is an Updates sub-panel in Win10TP, that allows you to
upgrade to the latest build, without a Store account. It
doesn't even tell you what build you're getting.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

The original 64 bit TP is 4GB.
The update (new build) I got yesterday was 2.8GB more download.
That is the only new build that I have pulled to date.

And it still doesn't support FLAC, which comes around Jan22
or so.

Paul

I "joined" the test and downloaded the first version, and it has updated to the latest version constantly. But my VM
crashed so I had to reload the ISO. I got it not from that join but from another MS link and just downloaded it.
They compare at least byte wise to each other but I when I check for new build since I'm one behind right now, there is
none available.
I also don't see where that fast/slow mode thing they talk about is. So I wonder if I really do have a different ISO.


PC Settings : Update and Recovery : Preview Builds ?

There is a "Change the way..." link there.

http://img.schieb.de/wp-content/uplo...view-build.jpg

I didn't know about that, until I saw it in some promotional
material from Microsoft, with a picture of one of their managers
on the page. (The same guy that was onstage at the BUILD conference.)

Paul

I found this link
http://www.krauspe.eu/r/Windows10/co...preview_build/
I changed the registry setting this points to and that allowed me to download the next build.

I'm almost sure I looked at that 'change the way..." link but it didn't seem to have anything that applied to getting
builds. Of course I have the latest builds and then immediately there were updates to that build so I'm up to date
now, maybe that link is different.

 




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