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Windows Live [Essentials] Mail on Windows 10
Just got told by Microsoft's Outlook eMail that to keep running Windows
Live Mail (2012) I had to download and install a patch "because we are going to being making some changes in the next few weeks..." They also recommend Windows 10 indigenous new mail app. The patch was only about 1MB. I downloaded it and applied it. It is now "Windows Live Mail 2012, Version 2012, (Build 16.4.3563.0918). The first couple of times I launched WLM, I got a system squawk dialog that said "problem, must shut down" [only WLM]... and BAP! It would dissolve into the Windows wallpaper. Then I would relaunch it... Same thing... I rebooted... This time the system squawk said it was having problems accessing my calendar... but it said "We will try to resolve these issues" and BAP! It would dissapate into the Windows wallpaper... Today, it launched and everything worked just fine. D'uh. I don't know what Microsoft did, but they seem to have fixed it. HTH. -- I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and, It's like Yogi Berra, RIP 9/22/2015, always used to say: "The future ain't what it used to be!" http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1 |
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Windows Live [Essentials] Mail on Windows 10
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:27:30 +0000, Bucky Breeder wrote:
Just got told by Microsoft's Outlook eMail that to keep running Windows Live Mail (2012) I had to download and install a patch "because we are going to being making some changes in the next few weeks..." They also recommend Windows 10 indigenous new mail app. I got the same message. I'm using Hotmail which is now called Outlook. I'm hoping whatever they intend, it doesn't mess up my Hotmail account since I'm using it on Linux and Android as well as the wife's laptop running windows 7. There seems to be a redundancy of mail programs in windows and I can't be sure exactly which program they are talking about, but I hope none of this makes the program inoperable on other platforms. |
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Windows Live [Essentials] Mail on Windows 10
I am still using WLM 2009 and got no email. Hope it continues working!
"Bucky Breeder" wrote in message ... Just got told by Microsoft's Outlook eMail that to keep running Windows Live Mail (2012) I had to download and install a patch "because we are going to being making some changes in the next few weeks..." They also recommend Windows 10 indigenous new mail app. The patch was only about 1MB. I downloaded it and applied it. It is now "Windows Live Mail 2012, Version 2012, (Build 16.4.3563.0918). The first couple of times I launched WLM, I got a system squawk dialog that said "problem, must shut down" [only WLM]... and BAP! It would dissolve into the Windows wallpaper. Then I would relaunch it... Same thing... I rebooted... This time the system squawk said it was having problems accessing my calendar... but it said "We will try to resolve these issues" and BAP! It would dissapate into the Windows wallpaper... Today, it launched and everything worked just fine. D'uh. I don't know what Microsoft did, but they seem to have fixed it. HTH. -- I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and, It's like Yogi Berra, RIP 9/22/2015, always used to say: "The future ain't what it used to be!" http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1 |
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Windows Live [Essentials] Mail on Windows 10
On 14/12/15 18:59, Don wrote:
I am still using WLM 2009 and got no email. Hope it continues working! Microsoft has specifically stated that It won't be supported. however, if you are using it to access other email accounts other than Microsoft's own branded then it won't matter, unless, of course, they too decide to upgrade their technologies!! Also, I understand it you reconfigure the settings to use IMAP or Pop3 then it might work. I tried to configure one of my newer accounts "Preview" versions in Thunderbird using IMAP and it worked!!!!!!! Please note I don't use WLM in my Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 machines so I don't know anything about it. However, my Windows 7 machine does use WLM 2012 but I haven't applied any patches yet. When it stops working, I will move them to Outlook 2013 and/or OL 2016. I have all OL versions since 2003 but only 2010, 2013 and 2016 is used extensively. Windows Live Essentials 2009 and 2011 are not supported any more, and you will need to update to Windows 8/8.1 or Windows 10 and use the Mail app, or use _www.outlook.com_. *//* |
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Windows Live [Essentials] Mail on Windows 10
On 14/12/15 16:37, Dave C wrote:
I got the same message. I'm using Hotmail which is now called Outlook. I'm hoping whatever they intend, it doesn't mess up my Hotmail account since I'm using it on Linux and Android as well as the wife's laptop running windows 7. There seems to be a redundancy of mail programs in windows and I can't be sure exactly which program they are talking about, but I hope none of this makes the program inoperable on other platforms. If you are using IMAP or POP3 then there is no problem; Therefore, if you are using any of the nix versions then you should be alright because that is the only thing (IMAP and POP3) you can use on them. Also, WLM can be used to access GMAIL or AOL or YAHOO emails. Alternatively, people can use TB to use IMAP and/OR POP3 connections. -- */ps: This message is best read in Mozilla Thunderbird as it uses 21st century technology./* |
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Windows Live [Essentials] Mail on Windows 10
"Don" wrote in message ... "Bucky Breeder" wrote in message ... Just got told by Microsoft's Outlook eMail that to keep running Windows Live Mail (2012) I had to download and install a patch "because we are going to being making some changes in the next few weeks..." They also recommend Windows 10 indigenous new mail app. The patch was only about 1MB. I downloaded it and applied it. It is now "Windows Live Mail 2012, Version 2012, (Build 16.4.3563.0918). The first couple of times I launched WLM, I got a system squawk dialog that said "problem, must shut down" [only WLM]... and BAP! It would dissolve into the Windows wallpaper. Then I would relaunch it... Same thing... I rebooted... This time the system squawk said it was having problems accessing my calendar... but it said "We will try to resolve these issues" and BAP! It would dissapate into the Windows wallpaper... Today, it launched and everything worked just fine. D'uh. I don't know what Microsoft did, but they seem to have fixed it. HTH. I am still using WLM 2009 and got no email. Hope it continues working! Same here, but only for news. I use MS Office Outlook 2003 for my ISP mail and Gmail. -- SC Tom |
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Windows Live [Essentials] Mail on Windows 10
Good Guy wrote on 12/14/2015 4:15 PM:
On 14/12/15 16:37, Dave C wrote: I got the same message. I'm using Hotmail which is now called Outlook. I'm hoping whatever they intend, it doesn't mess up my Hotmail account since I'm using it on Linux and Android as well as the wife's laptop running windows 7. There seems to be a redundancy of mail programs in windows and I can't be sure exactly which program they are talking about, but I hope none of this makes the program inoperable on other platforms. If you are using IMAP or POP3 then there is no problem; Therefore, if you are using any of the nix versions then you should be alright because that is the only thing (IMAP and POP3) you can use on them. Also, WLM can be used to access GMAIL or AOL or YAHOO emails. Alternatively, people can use TB to use IMAP and/OR POP3 connections. -- */ps: This message is best read in Mozilla Thunderbird as it uses 21st century technology./* Not entirely true. Once the account is migrated to the Office 365 platform POP3 will not function until the end-user logs on to the MSFT account at Outlook.com and toggles the use POP option. - i.e. it doesn't matter which client is being used (or Windows or Linux or iOS o/s) when using POP3 - that POP enable box needs to be 'On'. -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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Windows Live [Essentials] Mail on Windows 10
Good Guy wrote on 12/14/2015 4:08 PM:
On 14/12/15 18:59, Don wrote: I am still using WLM 2009 and got no email. Hope it continues working! Microsoft has specifically stated that It won't be supported. however, if you are using it to access other email accounts other than Microsoft's own branded then it won't matter, unless, of course, they too decide to upgrade their technologies!! Also, I understand it you reconfigure the settings to use IMAP or Pop3 then it might work. I tried to configure one of my newer accounts "Preview" versions in Thunderbird using IMAP and it worked!!!!!!! Please note I don't use WLM in my Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 machines so I don't know anything about it. However, my Windows 7 machine does use WLM 2012 but I haven't applied any patches yet. When it stops working, I will move them to Outlook 2013 and/or OL 2016. I have all OL versions since 2003 but only 2010, 2013 and 2016 is used extensively. Windows Live Essentials 2009 and 2011 are not supported any more, and you will need to update to Windows 8/8.1 or Windows 10 and use the Mail app, or use _www.outlook.com_. *//* The notice needs to be read in the frame of reference in which it was written as applicable to Win7/8x/10. 2009 isn't supported since it was for XP which is past its lifecycle 2011 is for Vista thus in the above frame of reference not supported for 7/8x/10 2009 and 2011 are not supported because there is no patch replacing DeltaSynce with EAS. Only WLM12 gets the patch. - thus it would be incorrect to state a need to update to 8x/10, 10 Mail app, or outlook.com. Bottom line...this notice is about DeltaSync being replaced with EAS due to backend server and account migration to the Office 365 platform which does not support DeltaSync) - IMAP for Outlook.com accounts are not impacted. POP3 accounts should use the newer pop3/smtp servers and once migrated enable POP in the web UI. After account migration DeltaSync users in WLM12 need to install the patch and Outlook 07 through 2010 users need to remove the Outlook Connector and remove/resetup the account. -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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Windows Live [Essentials] Mail on Windows 10
Dave C wrote on 12/14/2015 11:37 AM:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:27:30 +0000, Bucky Breeder wrote: Just got told by Microsoft's Outlook eMail that to keep running Windows Live Mail (2012) I had to download and install a patch "because we are going to being making some changes in the next few weeks..." They also recommend Windows 10 indigenous new mail app. I got the same message. I'm using Hotmail which is now called Outlook. I'm hoping whatever they intend, it doesn't mess up my Hotmail account since I'm using it on Linux and Android as well as the wife's laptop running windows 7. There seems to be a redundancy of mail programs in windows and I can't be sure exactly which program they are talking about, but I hope none of this makes the program inoperable on other platforms. First the message means your account is being migrated from the old backend server to the Office 365 server. For WLM: That patch replaces the DeltaSync server with the EAS server in WLM's built in code. - it does not update or change what one sees using the Http/DeltaSync protocol in the Outlook.com type email account's properties - that server field hasn't been relevant for years since the server is built-in-code in WLM's mail engine. Thus if you are using DeltaSync for an Outlook.com type account(Outlook/Live/Hotmail/MSn.com) the patch is necessary for EAS functionality *****after the account is migrated**** to the Office 365 platform that supports EAS but not DeltaSync. - it would also be appropriate after account migration to remove the DeltaSync configured email account and let WLM set it up automatically using the EAS server and rebuild the EAS folder structure - Messages saved to the account's Drafts folder will be available in WLM's Storage folders/Drafts subfolder (i.e. an EAS account in WLM doesn't have a local Drafts folder). If one is using IMAP for the Outlook.com type account the patch just updates shared files that WLM uses for all 3 protocols(POP3/IMAP/EAS) If one is using POP3 for Outlook.com type accounts it would be wise to change the servers from pop3.live.com/smtp.live.com to pop-mail.outlook.com/smtp-mail.outlook.com now or after the account is migrated to the Office 365 platform. Additionally after the account is migrated to the Office 365 platform send and receive using POP3 will **not* function with any of the above servers producing a timeout and error....to correct, logon to the account at Outlook.com, access Settings, and enable the option to use POP. If using a Microsoft account to sign on to Microsoft (formerly Live) services in WLM to sync contacts and calendar in WLM (or Office 2003) then after the account is migrated sync will cease to function for contacts and calendars. The Office 365 platform only supports Contact and Calendar sync in Outlook 2007/2010/2013/2016 or Win 8x/10 Mail app or the emclient(http://www.emclient.com/) Other changes will be necessary if using Outlook 2007/10. -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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