Lost classic start menu after latest windows 10 update

Windows 10 proudly announced this morning that it had updated my PC.
It seems two immediate consequences are

1. The lost of my Classic Start Menu, which for the moment I can no
longer find how to re-install.

2. The loss of the 'theme' I was using after much experiment months
ago. My blue title bars have become black.

Before I get stuck into resolving these, has anyone already done so
and able to give me a quick summary please.

And is this folder I've just found
C:\Windows.old\Program Files
another consequence of this update?

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Terry Pinnell wrote:

Windows 10 proudly announced this morning that it had updated my PC.
It seems two immediate consequences are

1. The lost of my Classic Start Menu, which for the moment I can no
longer find how to re-install.

2. The loss of the 'theme' I was using after much experiment months
ago. My blue title bars have become black.

Before I get stuck into resolving these, has anyone already done so
and able to give me a quick summary please.

And is this folder I've just found
C:\Windows.old\Program Files
another consequence of this update?

OK, sorted thanks

#1. I downloaded latest version 4.3.0 and re-installed. Haven't
thoroughly checked but looks OK at a glance.

#2 Proved trivial once I got my brain in gear: Control Panel\All
Control Panel Items\Personalisation and choose.

Maybe my query about C:\Windows.old\Program Files is unrelated?

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

On 25-Sep-16 5:50 PM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
Windows 10 proudly announced this morning that it had updated my PC.
It seems two immediate consequences are

1. The lost of my Classic Start Menu, which for the moment I can no
longer find how to re-install.

Click on the MS 'Window' bottom left hand corner. Notice a change?

2. The loss of the 'theme' I was using after much experiment months
ago. My blue title bars have become black.

Go to Control Panel/themes

Before I get stuck into resolving these, has anyone already done so
and able to give me a quick summary please.

And is this folder I've just found
C:\Windows.old\Program Files
another consequence of this update?

I'm sorry - I don't know, Terry.

--
David B.
"The truth begins in your heart".

On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 18:10:13 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:

Maybe my query about C:\Windows.old\Program Files is unrelated?


C:\Windows.old\ contains files from your previous "version" of Windows.

The Anniversary Update installs like a Windows version upgrade,
and saves your previous "version" of Windows in C:\Windows.old.



--
Kind regards
Ralph
🦊

In article , David B
writes
1. The lost of my Classic Start Menu, which for the moment I can no
longer find how to re-install.

Click on the MS 'Window' bottom left hand corner. Notice a change?

Did the same to me yesterday, I now have a permanent Recently Added and
an alphabetical list of programs plus a tiny log on photo.

I suppose I'll get used to it but it's a bit annoying when I allegedly
have things set up to warn me of updates.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

On 09/25/16 11:34, Ralph Fox so wittily quipped:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 18:10:13 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:

Maybe my query about C:\Windows.old\Program Files is unrelated?


C:\Windows.old\ contains files from your previous "version" of Windows.

and probably is a pain in the ass to get rid of, taking up 10G of space
(or something unreasonably large) like its equivalent did in the insider
program...


The Anniversary Update installs like a Windows version upgrade,
and saves your previous "version" of Windows in C:\Windows.old.

and, apparently, overwrites ANY preferences that you've configured
"other than Micro-shaft's way" with "THEIR way" [or the highway],
including the use of a REASONABLE shell (i.e. NOT the 'start thing' with
built-in advertising).

with so FEW preferences remaining, you'd think they could just LEAVE!
THEM! THE! ****! ALONE!! but, NOooooo... because, Micro-shaft!

On 25 Sep 2016, Big Bad Bob
wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

On 09/25/16 11:34, Ralph Fox so wittily quipped:

C:\Windows.old\ contains files from your previous "version" of
Windows.

and probably is a pain in the ass to get rid of, taking up 10G of
space (or something unreasonably large) like its equivalent did in
the insider program...

It is perfectly simple to get rid of Windows.old. All you have to do is
run Disk Cleanup. This has always been true, including with the Insider
Program.

The Anniversary Update installs like a Windows version upgrade,
and saves your previous "version" of Windows in C:\Windows.old.

and, apparently, overwrites ANY preferences that you've configured
"other than Micro-shaft's way" with "THEIR way" [or the highway],
including the use of a REASONABLE shell (i.e. NOT the 'start
thing' with built-in advertising).

with so FEW preferences remaining, you'd think they could just
LEAVE! THEM! THE! ****! ALONE!! but, NOooooo... because,
Micro-shaft!

This is also patently falso. Your bile seems to blind you from reality
and makes you post misinformation.

Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/25/16 11:34, Ralph Fox so wittily quipped:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 18:10:13 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:

Maybe my query about C:\Windows.old\Program Files is unrelated?

C:\Windows.old\ contains files from your previous "version" of Windows.

and probably is a pain in the ass to get rid of

No. Use "cleanmgr.exe" which is also known as Disk Cleanup.
Click the system files button, rescan. The Windows.old entry
will show as the 10GB to 20GB of files. Cleanmgr will take
care of the permissions while removing that.

*******

In Cleanmgr, be careful when selecting a "cleanup of Windows Update"
materials, as sometimes that involves NTFS compression
of portions of WinSXS, which can stretch on for a while.
You can click "Cancel" of course, if you get bored.
Programmatically, this option should only have been
invoked on machines with 32GB MMC storage, as they
really need compression where ever it makes sense.
Compressing the contents of C: on ordinary hard drives
or even modern SSDs, is a waste of electricity
(NTFS compression is ****-poor at the best of times).

I first noticed this, when changes to cleanmgr were backported
to Windows 8.1, and it spent three hours compressing files
in WinSXS. There was some tool I could use, which displays
attribute fields, and I could detect "compressed" that
way. I had to write a script to filter the results and
make sense of it. Good fun.

*******

The contents of "C:\Windows.old\Program Files" warns you
about untoward changes to your system. So you would want
to have a look inside there, and compare to the
current C:\Program Files or whatever.

Paul

I'm running Avast 12.3.3154.6 on my Windows 10 1607 X64 box, which I
believe is the latest version of Avast, and I don't have this problem at
all. I'm not sure why you are experiencing this. Avast doesn't wake my
machine up all the time, and it doesn't have insomnia.

Did you try using their extensive uninstall program?

https://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility

Then do a reinstall?

That might undo whatever has happened to your systems.

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 16:51:53 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Zaghadka
wrote:

I'm running Avast 12.3.3154.6 on my Windows 10 1607 X64 box, which I
believe is the latest version of Avast, and I don't have this problem at
all. I'm not sure why you are experiencing this. Avast doesn't wake my
machine up all the time, and it doesn't have insomnia.

Did you try using their extensive uninstall program?

https://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility

Then do a reinstall?

That might undo whatever has happened to your systems.

Sorry, fat fingered the wrong thread. Disregard the parent reply.

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

Ralph Fox wrote:

On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 18:10:13 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:

Maybe my query about C:\Windows.old\Program Files is unrelated?


C:\Windows.old\ contains files from your previous "version" of Windows.

The Anniversary Update installs like a Windows version upgrade,
and saves your previous "version" of Windows in C:\Windows.old.

Thanks Ralph.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK