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classic shell vs Retro UI
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:54:24 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:51:02 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:36:16 -0500, "R. C. White" wrote: That's why I usually hold down the RIGHT mouse button while Copying or Moving files. Nothing gets committed until I release the button, giving me time to read the popup showing the actual destination. And, even after the release, it lets me choose between Copy and Move (or Cancel), giving me a last chance to verify the destination, too. I do the same thing, RC. I do it for the commitment reason you mention, but mainly because I find it hard to remember under what condition drag-and-drop means "copy" and under what conditions it means "move." With right-drag, I don't have to remember. Feel free to forget the following :-) If it's to the same partition, without control it's move and with control it's copy. If it's to another partition, it's the reverse. It seems that Microsoft thinks you normally want to move a file when you're dragging it within your partition, whereas you normally want to copy a file when you're dragging it between partitions. I have the advantage of remembering that, but in truth, I don't like it very much. Yes, thanks. I've read those rules when I've read them before. But because I see no logic in it, I find it hard to remember. So I choose to right-drag. Before I forget: on my W7 system, when I am dragging a file, there is an icon on the mouse cursor that shows whether the OS plans to move the file or to copy it. Yes, same on Windows 8. I try to remember to look at that icon before releasing the mouse button. Yes, but to me, *trying* to remember is dangerous. I want to know for sure. And again, that's why I right-drag. -- Ken Blake |
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Ken Blake wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:54:24 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:51:02 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:36:16 -0500, "R. C. White" wrote: That's why I usually hold down the RIGHT mouse button while Copying or Moving files. Nothing gets committed until I release the button, giving me time to read the popup showing the actual destination. And, even after the release, it lets me choose between Copy and Move (or Cancel), giving me a last chance to verify the destination, too. I do the same thing, RC. I do it for the commitment reason you mention, but mainly because I find it hard to remember under what condition drag-and-drop means "copy" and under what conditions it means "move." With right-drag, I don't have to remember. Feel free to forget the following :-) If it's to the same partition, without control it's move and with control it's copy. If it's to another partition, it's the reverse. It seems that Microsoft thinks you normally want to move a file when you're dragging it within your partition, whereas you normally want to copy a file when you're dragging it between partitions. I have the advantage of remembering that, but in truth, I don't like it very much. Yes, thanks. I've read those rules when I've read them before. But because I see no logic in it, I find it hard to remember. So I choose to right-drag. Before I forget: on my W7 system, when I am dragging a file, there is an icon on the mouse cursor that shows whether the OS plans to move the file or to copy it. Yes, same on Windows 8. I try to remember to look at that icon before releasing the mouse button. Yes, but to me, *trying* to remember is dangerous. I want to know for sure. And again, that's why I right-drag. There really is a reason for the intrapartition move and interpartition copy. To move a file within the same partition all you have to do is change the address. The file isn't moved, at all. To move a file to a different partition requires physically copying the file to the destination then erasing it from the source. Copying without deleting the source is a simpler operation. So the logic is to perform the simplist operation by default, a move within a partition and a copy between partitions. -- Crash Money may not buy happiness, but it can sure defray a lot of unhappiness. |
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:41:22 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:54:24 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:51:02 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:36:16 -0500, "R. C. White" wrote: That's why I usually hold down the RIGHT mouse button while Copying or Moving files. Nothing gets committed until I release the button, giving me time to read the popup showing the actual destination. And, even after the release, it lets me choose between Copy and Move (or Cancel), giving me a last chance to verify the destination, too. I do the same thing, RC. I do it for the commitment reason you mention, but mainly because I find it hard to remember under what condition drag-and-drop means "copy" and under what conditions it means "move." With right-drag, I don't have to remember. Feel free to forget the following :-) If it's to the same partition, without control it's move and with control it's copy. If it's to another partition, it's the reverse. It seems that Microsoft thinks you normally want to move a file when you're dragging it within your partition, whereas you normally want to copy a file when you're dragging it between partitions. I have the advantage of remembering that, but in truth, I don't like it very much. Yes, thanks. I've read those rules when I've read them before. But because I see no logic in it, I find it hard to remember. So I choose to right-drag. Before I forget: on my W7 system, when I am dragging a file, there is an icon on the mouse cursor that shows whether the OS plans to move the file or to copy it. Yes, same on Windows 8. I try to remember to look at that icon before releasing the mouse button. Yes, but to me, *trying* to remember is dangerous. I want to know for sure. And again, that's why I right-drag. All of which is why I wrote "Feel free to forget the following" :-) Crash's post gives what for me is a mnemonic aid (and probably why I've had no trouble remembering it), namely the rationale for it. Feel free to forget that as well :-) When there are choices, as there often are in Windows, we all[1] adopt the methods that we like best. You are well within your rights to make the choices you mentioned. My remarks were only for your consideration as info, no strings attached. [1] At least the smarter ones :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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