Upgraded to Win 8 from Win 7... Licence query

Ok, all went well. I'm pleased (generally) with the set-up and have tweaked
to suit my requirements.

The upgrade from Win7 obviously leaves me with the old Win7 DVD. Which as I
see it is now not installed on that machine any more as Win 8 is now the O.S
alone.

Question is, can I now use that Win 7 DVD in another PC that I wish to
upgrade from XP to Win 7 ?

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:08:51 -0000, "Nthkentman"
wrote in article ...

Ok, all went well. I'm pleased (generally) with the set-up and have tweaked
to suit my requirements.

The upgrade from Win7 obviously leaves me with the old Win7 DVD. Which as I
see it is now not installed on that machine any more as Win 8 is now the O.S
alone.

Question is, can I now use that Win 7 DVD in another PC that I wish to
upgrade from XP to Win 7 ?

If you used an upgrade license for Win 8, then that license invalidates
the Win 7 license so technically you cannot use that Win 7 license
anymore.

--
Zaphod

Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
years in a row.

"Zaphod Beeblebrox" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:08:51 -0000, "Nthkentman"
wrote in article ...

Ok, all went well. I'm pleased (generally) with the set-up and have
tweaked
to suit my requirements.

The upgrade from Win7 obviously leaves me with the old Win7 DVD. Which as
I
see it is now not installed on that machine any more as Win 8 is now the
O.S
alone.

Question is, can I now use that Win 7 DVD in another PC that I wish to
upgrade from XP to Win 7 ?

If you used an upgrade license for Win 8, then that license invalidates
the Win 7 license so technically you cannot use that Win 7 license
anymore.


So why would it invalidate it?... If the downloaded Win 8 Upgrade has a new
licence, and is now the primary and only O.S why should the Win 7 licence
not still be valid?

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:08:51 -0000, "Nthkentman"
wrote:

Ok, all went well. I'm pleased (generally) with the set-up and have tweaked
to suit my requirements.

The upgrade from Win7 obviously leaves me with the old Win7 DVD. Which as I
see it is now not installed on that machine any more as Win 8 is now the O.S
alone.

Question is, can I now use that Win 7 DVD in another PC that I wish to
upgrade from XP to Win 7 ?


No. When you buy and use an Upgrade, you end up with one license, not
two. That's why the Upgrade costs less than the Full version.


--
Ken Blake

On 11/7/2012 4:08 PM, Nthkentman wrote:
Ok, all went well. I'm pleased (generally) with the set-up and have
tweaked to suit my requirements.

The upgrade from Win7 obviously leaves me with the old Win7 DVD. Which
as I see it is now not installed on that machine any more as Win 8 is
now the O.S alone.

Question is, can I now use that Win 7 DVD in another PC that I wish to
upgrade from XP to Win 7 ?



You're not supposed to but it will probably activate and be declared
genuine by MS.

--
Alias

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:40:15 -0000, "Nthkentman"
wrote in article ...

"Zaphod Beeblebrox" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:08:51 -0000, "Nthkentman" nthkentman2
@gmail.com
wrote in article ...

Ok, all went well. I'm pleased (generally) with the set-up and
have
tweaked
to suit my requirements.

The upgrade from Win7 obviously leaves me with the old Win7 DVD.
Which as
I
see it is now not installed on that machine any more as Win 8 is
now the
O.S
alone.

Question is, can I now use that Win 7 DVD in another PC that I
wish to
upgrade from XP to Win 7 ?

If you used an upgrade license for Win 8, then that license
invalidates
the Win 7 license so technically you cannot use that Win 7 license
anymore.


So why would it invalidate it?... If the downloaded Win 8 Upgrade has a new
licence, and is now the primary and only O.S why should the Win 7 licence
not still be valid?

Because the Win 8 Upgrade license is only valid if you upgrade an
existing Windows installation, and is specifies that the existing
license you upgraded is now tied to the new Win 8 upgrade license.

--
Zaphod

Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
years in a row.

RETAIL UPGRADE
We do not sell our software or your copy of it – we only license it.
Under our license, we grant you the right to install and run
that one copy on one computer (the licensed computer), for
use by one person at a time, but only if you comply with all the
terms of this agreement. Typically, this means you can install one
copy of the software on a personal computer and then you can
use the software on that computer

After I upgrade, can I use my old Windows version on a separate
partition or on another PC? Can I give it away or sell it?
The software covered by this agreement is an upgrade to your
existing operating system software, so the upgrade replaces the
original software that you are upgrading. You do not retain any
rights to the original software after you have upgraded and you may
not continue to use it or transfer it in any way.



--
....winston
msft mvp


"Nthkentman" wrote in message ...

Ok, all went well. I'm pleased (generally) with the set-up and have tweaked
to suit my requirements.

The upgrade from Win7 obviously leaves me with the old Win7 DVD. Which as I
see it is now not installed on that machine any more as Win 8 is now the O.S
alone.

Question is, can I now use that Win 7 DVD in another PC that I wish to
upgrade from XP to Win 7 ?

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:05:09 -0500, "..winston"
wrote:

RETAIL UPGRADE
We do not sell our software or your copy of it – we only license it.
Under our license, we grant you the right to install and run
that one copy on one computer (the licensed computer), for
use by one person at a time, but only if you comply with all the
terms of this agreement. Typically, this means you can install one
copy of the software on a personal computer and then you can
use the software on that computer

After I upgrade, can I use my old Windows version on a separate
partition or on another PC? Can I give it away or sell it?
The software covered by this agreement is an upgrade to your
existing operating system software, so the upgrade replaces the
original software that you are upgrading. You do not retain any
rights to the original software after you have upgraded and you may
not continue to use it or transfer it in any way.

Suppose you upgrade from 7 to 8, decide you do not like 8 and want to
revert to your 7 again. Are you saying that if you revert to 7 using a
disk clone it won't work because the 7 licence has been invalidated?
So how do you remove 8 to get your 7 back again.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

On 11/9/2012 4:06 PM, Robin Bignall wrote:
On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:05:09 -0500, "..winston"
wrote:

RETAIL UPGRADE
We do not sell our software or your copy of it – we only license it.
Under our license, we grant you the right to install and run
that one copy on one computer (the licensed computer), for
use by one person at a time, but only if you comply with all the
terms of this agreement. Typically, this means you can install one
copy of the software on a personal computer and then you can
use the software on that computer

After I upgrade, can I use my old Windows version on a separate
partition or on another PC? Can I give it away or sell it?
The software covered by this agreement is an upgrade to your
existing operating system software, so the upgrade replaces the
original software that you are upgrading. You do not retain any
rights to the original software after you have upgraded and you may
not continue to use it or transfer it in any way.

Suppose you upgrade from 7 to 8, decide you do not like 8 and want to
revert to your 7 again. Are you saying that if you revert to 7 using a
disk clone it won't work because the 7 licence has been invalidated?
So how do you remove 8 to get your 7 back again.


You buy a new copy to comply with the license.
That's why I generally don't buy (or in the past, sell) upgrade versions.

If reinstallation of the prior o/s (after removal of the newer o/s) fails to activate one will have to contact MSFT and explain the
situation.

As noted elsewhere..the license says what you can or can not do and thereby what the license holder agrees to by accepting the
agreement and/or use...it does not hinder the technical ability (legal or illegal) to accomplish a task.

The licensor is responsible for stating their terms and enforcement; the licensee is responsible for abiding by the license (which
they accepted).


--
....winston
msft mvp


"Robin Bignall" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:05:09 -0500, "..winston"
wrote:

RETAIL UPGRADE
We do not sell our software or your copy of it – we only license it.
Under our license, we grant you the right to install and run
that one copy on one computer (the licensed computer), for
use by one person at a time, but only if you comply with all the
terms of this agreement. Typically, this means you can install one
copy of the software on a personal computer and then you can
use the software on that computer

After I upgrade, can I use my old Windows version on a separate
partition or on another PC? Can I give it away or sell it?
The software covered by this agreement is an upgrade to your
existing operating system software, so the upgrade replaces the
original software that you are upgrading. You do not retain any
rights to the original software after you have upgraded and you may
not continue to use it or transfer it in any way.

Suppose you upgrade from 7 to 8, decide you do not like 8 and want to
revert to your 7 again. Are you saying that if you revert to 7 using a
disk clone it won't work because the 7 licence has been invalidated?
So how do you remove 8 to get your 7 back again.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:43:26 -0500, charlie wrote:

On 11/9/2012 4:06 PM, Robin Bignall wrote:
On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:05:09 -0500, "..winston"
wrote:

RETAIL UPGRADE
We do not sell our software or your copy of it – we only license it.
Under our license, we grant you the right to install and run
that one copy on one computer (the licensed computer), for
use by one person at a time, but only if you comply with all the
terms of this agreement. Typically, this means you can install one
copy of the software on a personal computer and then you can
use the software on that computer

After I upgrade, can I use my old Windows version on a separate
partition or on another PC? Can I give it away or sell it?
The software covered by this agreement is an upgrade to your
existing operating system software, so the upgrade replaces the
original software that you are upgrading. You do not retain any
rights to the original software after you have upgraded and you may
not continue to use it or transfer it in any way.

Suppose you upgrade from 7 to 8, decide you do not like 8 and want to
revert to your 7 again. Are you saying that if you revert to 7 using a
disk clone it won't work because the 7 licence has been invalidated?
So how do you remove 8 to get your 7 back again.


You buy a new copy to comply with the license.
That's why I generally don't buy (or in the past, sell) upgrade versions.

The Win 8 I bought was the version that allowed multiple installs on
home-built hardware, with or without the option of keeping one's
programs and settings. Not an upgrade version. Not that that makes any
difference. Opting to keep one's programs and settings, it's certainly
not made clear that that is a one-way street. I'm now glad that the Win
8 installation failed.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

"Robin Bignall" wrote in message ...


The Win 8 I bought was the version that allowed multiple installs on
home-built hardware, with or without the option of keeping one's
programs and settings. Not an upgrade version. Not that that makes any
difference. Opting to keep one's programs and settings, it's certainly
not made clear that that is a one-way street. I'm now glad that the Win
8 installation failed.


None of the available Windows 8 versions provide licensing for use on multiple devices. One license, one device, one use...to use
on another device/virtual/partition removal is necessary.

These are the options available for retention of a prior o/s contents when upgrading while running the prior qualifying o/s.
- Upgrade from Windows 7 and you can keep programs, Windows settings and files; upgrade from Vista and keep settings and files.
Upgrading from Windows XP only gives you your personal files.
- Personal Use/System Builder versions are for clean installs
- MSDN/Technet full versions can be used to perform an upgrade or clean install

On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:19:51 -0500, "..winston"
wrote:


"Robin Bignall" wrote in message ...


The Win 8 I bought was the version that allowed multiple installs on
home-built hardware, with or without the option of keeping one's
programs and settings. Not an upgrade version. Not that that makes any
difference. Opting to keep one's programs and settings, it's certainly
not made clear that that is a one-way street. I'm now glad that the Win
8 installation failed.


None of the available Windows 8 versions provide licensing for use on multiple devices. One license, one device, one use...to use
on another device/virtual/partition removal is necessary.

I didn't phrase it very well. It was not an OEM, tied to the first
hardware it was installed on. It was the last option below.

These are the options available for retention of a prior o/s contents when upgrading while running the prior qualifying o/s.
- Upgrade from Windows 7 and you can keep programs, Windows settings and files; upgrade from Vista and keep settings and files.
Upgrading from Windows XP only gives you your personal files.
- Personal Use/System Builder versions are for clean installs
- MSDN/Technet full versions can be used to perform an upgrade or clean install

The point I'm making is that if you upgrade from Win 7 (full version) to
Win 8 (full version) and then decide you do not like Win 8, you cannot
go back to Win 7 without buying a new Win 7 licence, although you have
already paid for a Win 7 licence, because the latter has been
invalidated. This is what I seem to be hearing. Having bought Win 8
and wasted your money, you have to buy Win 7 again to get back to where
you were. It doesn't seem right to me.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:04:12 -0700, fritz wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:17:56 +0000, Robin Bignall
wrote:
I'm now glad that the Win 8 installation failed.

My installation failed, too. Must be catching.

Guess it didn't like how my Win7 is configured. Have to guess since
it didn't say why it failed.

To add insult to injury, the "Windows installation was not successful.
Your previous... etc. " message was on a blue screen. :-)

My first time ever for a Windows install failure. The confidence
level wasn't very high - trying to install from inside the OS.

I was willing, but I can take a hint.

I know why mine failed, but you might try running the Win 8 Upgrade
Advisor
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...e-to-windows-8

It will examine Win 7 and list all of the (potential) problems.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

If your Win8 installed and a blue screen appeared, an error code should have been present.

I can't recall ever seeing a blue screen (of death - BSOD) without some type of text referencing memory location or error



--
....winston
msft mvp


"fritz" wrote in message om...

On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:17:56 +0000, Robin Bignall
wrote:
I'm now glad that the Win 8 installation failed.

My installation failed, too. Must be catching.

Guess it didn't like how my Win7 is configured. Have to guess since
it didn't say why it failed.

To add insult to injury, the "Windows installation was not successful.
Your previous... etc. " message was on a blue screen. :-)

My first time ever for a Windows install failure. The confidence
level wasn't very high - trying to install from inside the OS.

I was willing, but I can take a hint.