Starting straight into desktop: possible solution

On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:45:33 +0000, JR wrote:




Sorry for the late reply, folks. Damn combination of time zones and
"rush to fix emergency" kept me from coming here

-Moving the file to the start menu didn't work, Windows doesn't "jump"
to the desktop, remaining in the start menu (metro?) interface; no
idea why. And It's on the correct folder.

-We don't like to install 3rd party software, at least anything
altering/invoilving the OS, because we have 180 PCs to do. Anything we
don't pick on testing can cause havoc, if it happens to conflict with
anythng the various departments have installed. Being understaffed and
overworked, we tend to frown on anything that cause more work...

We'll probably forget this, anyway. It's not that hard to hit ESCAPE
when you're in the start menu...
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On 11/9/2012 3:32 AM, Dave-UK wrote:

"John Doe" wrote in message ...
"Dave-UK" 1 2.com wrote:

C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Window s\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\Desktop.scf

That is one impressive path.

It's where the desktop.scf file ends up if you drag and drop it into a normal Startup folder.
As Win8 has no usual Start menu you have to do it via Explorer, that's why I posted the path.


FYI:
Nothing in that folder(above) will be launched until after the user "YourName" logs in.
Try putting it's path in a string variable(REG_SZ) at:
HKLM-Software-Microsoft-windows-CurrentVersion-Run
Maybe this will launch it before the welcome screen loads?
HTH,
Dan

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On 11/9/2012 3:32 AM, Dave-UK wrote:

"John Doe" wrote in message ...
"Dave-UK" 1 2.com wrote:

C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Window s\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\Desktop.scf

That is one impressive path.

It's where the desktop.scf file ends up if you drag and drop it into a normal Startup folder.
As Win8 has no usual Start menu you have to do it via Explorer, that's why I posted the path.


FYI:
Nothing in that folder(above) will be launched until after the user "YourName" logs in.
Try putting it's path in a string variable(REG_SZ) at:
HKLM-Software-Microsoft-windows-CurrentVersion-Run
Maybe this will launch it before the welcome screen loads?
HTH,
Dan

Did you test this ?
Because for me it doesn't work. You still have to logon first.

On 11/22/2012 3:28 AM, Dave-UK wrote:

"Dan Sutter" wrote in message
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On 11/9/2012 3:32 AM, Dave-UK wrote:

"John Doe" wrote in message
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"Dave-UK" 1 2.com wrote:

C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Window s\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup\Desktop.scf

That is one impressive path.

It's where the desktop.scf file ends up if you drag and drop it into
a normal Startup folder.
As Win8 has no usual Start menu you have to do it via Explorer,
that's why I posted the path.


FYI:
Nothing in that folder(above) will be launched until after the user
"YourName" logs in.
Try putting it's path in a string variable(REG_SZ) at:
HKLM-Software-Microsoft-windows-CurrentVersion-Run
Maybe this will launch it before the welcome screen loads?
HTH,
Dan

Did you test this ?
Because for me it doesn't work. You still have to logon first.

What am I missing here? Does everyone just shutdown their machines? I
almost never do that at all. Rather I use standby or hibernation modes
instead. And when I want my computer back on, touch the power button and
I am looking straight at the Windows 8 desktop.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8

On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:45:33 +0000, JR wrote:

Hia folks


Been studying ways of easing my users's move to Windows 8. One was is
to try to bypass the new start screen as much as possible. I've been
trying to find ways to boot straight into the desktop, WITHOUT
installing 3rd party software, and found these instructions:

http://windows7vswindows8.com/bootin...ly-to-desktop/


Basically, we make a txt file with these lines:

[Shell]
Command=2
IconFile=Explorer.exe,3
[Taskbar]
Command=ToggleDesktop

save as desktop.scf, and then create a scheduled task, that activates
on login, to run that file. Works well, but there's a problem: for
some reason, an explorer window pops up.

But if I 2-click on the file, it works well: desktop shows up, no
problems.

As anyone tried this trick? Any ideas on what the problem might be?
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"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum."
--------------------------
Comparisons of sizes: W40k vs other models
http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/compare

If this doesn't work out to your satisfaction, just let it start with
the Lock screen showing then press the MSFT and the i key together to
move to the START screen. That's a lower case letter i, not the
numeral 1 that you press in unison with the MSFT key. Gordon

On 11/22/2012 4:28 AM, Dave-UK wrote:

"Dan Sutter" wrote in message ...
On 11/9/2012 3:32 AM, Dave-UK wrote:

"John Doe" wrote in message ...
"Dave-UK" 1 2.com wrote:

C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Window s\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\Desktop.scf

That is one impressive path.

It's where the desktop.scf file ends up if you drag and drop it into a normal Startup folder.
As Win8 has no usual Start menu you have to do it via Explorer, that's why I posted the path.


FYI:
Nothing in that folder(above) will be launched until after the user "YourName" logs in.
Try putting it's path in a string variable(REG_SZ) at:
HKLM-Software-Microsoft-windows-CurrentVersion-Run
Maybe this will launch it before the welcome screen loads?
HTH,
Dan

Did you test this ?
Because for me it doesn't work. You still have to logon first.



No I did not.
I guessed.
I have several profiles and don't mind logging in.
Were back to the drawing board

Processes do run before logging in.
A web search for
"starting a process before log on to windows 7"
showed me about start-up scripts.
Look he
http://www.ehow.com/how_7207979_make...g-windows.html

In the OP's script, there is no "user name" or "password" to log in with.
I cannot see how the script:
[Shell]
Command=2
IconFile=Explorer.exe,3
[Taskbar]
Command=ToggleDesktop
Could be used to log on to any particular user.
What is "Command=2" do?

The OP may need to return to:
http://windows7vswindows8.com/bootin...ly-to-desktop/
And repeat the 4 steps there.

Sorry,
Dan

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Windows 8 processes the Startup folder after the Windows 8 Start Screen loads.


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"Dave-UK" wrote in message ...


"John Doe" wrote in message ...
"Dave-UK" 1 2.com wrote:

C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Window s\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\Desktop.scf

That is one impressive path.

It's where the desktop.scf file ends up if you drag and drop it into a normal Startup folder.
As Win8 has no usual Start menu you have to do it via Explorer, that's why I posted the path.

Windows 8 processes the Startup folder after the Windows 8 Start Screen loads.


--
....winston
msft mvp


"Dave-UK" wrote in message ...


"John Doe" wrote in message ...
"Dave-UK" 1 2.com wrote:

C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Window s\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\Desktop.scf

That is one impressive path.

It's where the desktop.scf file ends up if you drag and drop it into a normal Startup folder.
As Win8 has no usual Start menu you have to do it via Explorer, that's why I posted the path.

On 11/26/2012 2:05 AM, ..winston wrote:
Windows 8 processes the Startup folder after the Windows 8 Start Screen
loads.

I have a Metro App called "Windows 8 Tricks and Tips" and under "Boot to
the desktop without an app" has a wonderful solution for those that
wants it to come straight into the desktop first. Basically you just
schedule a task running "explorer" at logon.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8

does it actualy work ?


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On 11/26/2012 2:05 AM, ..winston wrote:
Windows 8 processes the Startup folder after the Windows 8 Start Screen
loads.

I have a Metro App called "Windows 8 Tricks and Tips" and under "Boot to
the desktop without an app" has a wonderful solution for those that wants
it to come straight into the desktop first. Basically you just schedule a
task running "explorer" at logon.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8

On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:37:19 -0500, "Andy" wrote in article
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"BillW50" wrote in message
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On 11/26/2012 2:05 AM, ..winston wrote:
Windows 8 processes the Startup folder after the Windows 8 Start Screen
loads.

I have a Metro App called "Windows 8 Tricks and Tips" and under "Boot to
the desktop without an app" has a wonderful solution for those that wants
it to come straight into the desktop first. Basically you just schedule a
task running "explorer" at logon.


does it actualy work ?

I didn't buy the app to see if there are any details to their approach
that might change the end result, but I added a scheduled task to run
at login to launch explorer.exe and it works, sort of. There is a brief
pause after login in where the Metro interface is shown, and then it
switches to the desktop and opens an explorer window.

--
Zaphod

"So [Trillian], two heads is what does it for a girl?"
"...Anything else [Zaphod]'s got two of?"
- Arthur Dent

On 11/28/2012 7:30 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:37:19 -0500, wrote in article
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AL'S COMPUTERS
wrote in message
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On 11/26/2012 2:05 AM, ..winston wrote:
Windows 8 processes the Startup folder after the Windows 8 Start Screen
loads.

I have a Metro App called "Windows 8 Tricks and Tips" and under "Boot to
the desktop without an app" has a wonderful solution for those that wants
it to come straight into the desktop first. Basically you just schedule a
task running "explorer" at logon.


does it actualy work ?

I didn't buy the app to see if there are any details to their approach
that might change the end result, but I added a scheduled task to run
at login to launch explorer.exe and it works, sort of. There is a brief
pause after login in where the Metro interface is shown, and then it
switches to the desktop and opens an explorer window.

Actually it is a free App (there must be like thousands of free Apps).
Just go to the Store and search (Win+Q) "Windows 8 Tricks and Tips". And
it lists as the third one down on my screen.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8

On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:26:25 -0600, "BillW50" wrote
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On 11/28/2012 7:30 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:37:19 -0500, wrote in article
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AL'S COMPUTERS
wrote in message
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On 11/26/2012 2:05 AM, ..winston wrote:
Windows 8 processes the Startup folder after the Windows 8 Start Screen
loads.

I have a Metro App called "Windows 8 Tricks and Tips" and under "Boot to
the desktop without an app" has a wonderful solution for those that wants
it to come straight into the desktop first. Basically you just schedule a
task running "explorer" at logon.


does it actualy work ?

I didn't buy the app to see if there are any details to their approach
that might change the end result, but I added a scheduled task to run
at login to launch explorer.exe and it works, sort of. There is a brief
pause after login in where the Metro interface is shown, and then it
switches to the desktop and opens an explorer window.

Actually it is a free App (there must be like thousands of free Apps).
Just go to the Store and search (Win+Q) "Windows 8 Tricks and Tips". And
it lists as the third one down on my screen.

The one I saw originally was $2.49 or so, but after a renewed search I
was able to find the free one you mentioned. That said, I see why it
is free, there isn't much there at all. Also unfortunately, there
isn't anything else in the tip that solves the two (minor) issues with
the tip.

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Zaphod

The secret of flying is to hurl yourself to the ground, and miss.

Correct.
Similar what was noted earlier (for processing Startup items) Windows 8 processes Tasks after the Start Screen (fka Metro) loads.



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msft mvp


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On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:37:19 -0500, "Andy" wrote in article
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AL'S COMPUTERS
"BillW50" wrote in message
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On 11/26/2012 2:05 AM, ..winston wrote:
Windows 8 processes the Startup folder after the Windows 8 Start Screen
loads.

I have a Metro App called "Windows 8 Tricks and Tips" and under "Boot to
the desktop without an app" has a wonderful solution for those that wants
it to come straight into the desktop first. Basically you just schedule a
task running "explorer" at logon.


does it actualy work ?

I didn't buy the app to see if there are any details to their approach
that might change the end result, but I added a scheduled task to run
at login to launch explorer.exe and it works, sort of. There is a brief
pause after login in where the Metro interface is shown, and then it
switches to the desktop and opens an explorer window.

--
Zaphod

"So [Trillian], two heads is what does it for a girl?"
"...Anything else [Zaphod]'s got two of?"
- Arthur Dent