Norton Anti Virus?

"FDK" wrote in message ...



Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon

Windows Security Essentials. If you use it, turn off Windows
Defender. It's a memory hog.


Microsoft security Essentials is not supported on Windows 8.
Look at the Key Features - "Supports Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows XP"

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...tials-download

Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus that is part of Windows 8.
Windows Defender is not the same as the previous Defender, which was
just an antimalware program.

On 11/18/2012 5:59 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus that is part of Windows 8.

Can it be uninstalled and replaced by another anti virus program?

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Alias

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:18:42 +0100, Alias
wrote:

On 11/18/2012 5:04 PM, Gordon wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:17:47 +0100, Alias
wrote:

On 11/18/2012 4:17 PM, Alias wrote:
On 11/18/2012 2:36 PM, wrote:
I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
than a full version.

I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
kind.

Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon


Use
thishttps://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?ct=us&lg=en&product=home&pvid=f-home&reflang=NLNL&version=1&docid=kb20080710133024 EN_EndUserProfile_en_us
to remove Norton.


Oops, here's a clickable url:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/nort...rProfile_en_us

I'm looking into means for removing Norton and all its clutter. Will
the "Remove Software" function in Control Panel do this or should I
use the process provided by the above link? Gordon


Use the above link.

Dave, I've tried downloading, saving to my desktop, then running this
removal tool but it won't start, for some reason. It goes through the
start process to the point of aking if I want to allow this probram to
run. When I select Yes, it blinks and dissappears. Are you sure it can
run on a Windows 8 60 bit computer? Gordon

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:48:11 -0000, "Dave-UK" wrote:


"Gordon" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:12:43 -0000, "Dave-UK" wrote:


wrote in message ...
I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
than a full version.

I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
kind.

Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon

You were advised you to get rid of Norton in the Windows 7 newsgroup and my advice
is the same with Windows 8, get rid of Norton. You already have Microsoft's antivirus, Defender,
installed as part of Windows 8. You don't need to spend any more money on antivirus software.

Dave, I'm not sure MS antivirus of any kind was installed by the
manufacturer on this new computer. I have not installed any antivirus
software but Norton Trial Version came with the new computer.

I'll check again and see if Windows Security Essentials or anything
similar is installed. Gordon

Microsoft Security Essentials is for Windows 7 and below, not for Windows 8.
Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus and antimalware program for Windows 8.
As I have said, Windows Defender is already on your computer - it is part of Windows 8.
All you need to do is get rid of Norton, and don't install any other antivirus software.

I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon

"Gordon" wrote:

I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon

Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?

Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP with
Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows 8 as an
upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good chance that
the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its reputation) isn't
compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with the Norton-branded
products (so I don't know when or if a Win8-compatible version of NAV
is/will be available), but the Windows 8-compatible production build of the
enterprise AV package (under the Symantec brand) was just released a couple
of days ago, fixing problems that made the earlier builds unusable on Win8.

Joe

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
wrote:

"Gordon" wrote:

I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon

Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?

Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
results.

Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP with
Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows 8 as an
upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good chance that
the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its reputation) isn't
compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with the Norton-branded
products (so I don't know when or if a Win8-compatible version of NAV
is/will be available), but the Windows 8-compatible production build of the
enterprise AV package (under the Symantec brand) was just released a couple
of days ago, fixing problems that made the earlier builds unusable on Win8.

Joe

I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.

Gordon

"Alias" wrote in message ...
On 11/18/2012 5:59 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus that is part of Windows 8.

Can it be uninstalled and replaced by another anti virus program?

--
Alias

I don't know. I've not bothered to try.

On 11/18/2012, Gordon posted:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:48:11 -0000, "Dave-UK" wrote:


"Gordon" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:12:43 -0000, "Dave-UK" wrote:


wrote in message
...
I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
than a full version.

I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
kind.

Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon

You were advised you to get rid of Norton in the Windows 7 newsgroup and
my advice is the same with Windows 8, get rid of Norton. You already have
Microsoft's antivirus, Defender, installed as part of Windows 8. You
don't need to spend any more money on antivirus software.

Dave, I'm not sure MS antivirus of any kind was installed by the
manufacturer on this new computer. I have not installed any antivirus
software but Norton Trial Version came with the new computer.

I'll check again and see if Windows Security Essentials or anything
similar is installed. Gordon

Microsoft Security Essentials is for Windows 7 and below, not for Windows 8.
Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus and antimalware program for
Windows 8. As I have said, Windows Defender is already on your computer - it
is part of Windows 8. All you need to do is get rid of Norton, and don't
install any other antivirus software.

I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon

Typically, to uninstall Norton you have to download an uninstaller from
the Symantec site.

The uninstaller software is:

1. Not necessarily easy to find, and

2. Specific to the version both of Norton software and of Windows that
you are running, so you have to locate the correct one.

I haven't done this for a while, so I have no current or more detailed
info to give you.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 11/18/2012 9:56 PM, Dave-UK wrote:

"Alias" wrote in message
...
On 11/18/2012 5:59 PM, Dave-UK wrote:
Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus that is part of Windows 8.

Can it be uninstalled and replaced by another anti virus program?


I don't know. I've not bothered to try.







It can be:

http://www.guidingtech.com/10154/dis...ing-antivirus/

--
Alias

wrote in message ...
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
wrote:

"Gordon" wrote:

I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon

Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?

Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
results.

Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP with
Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows 8 as an
upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good chance that
the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its reputation) isn't
compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with the Norton-branded
products (so I don't know when or if a Win8-compatible version of NAV
is/will be available), but the Windows 8-compatible production build of the
enterprise AV package (under the Symantec brand) was just released a couple
of days ago, fixing problems that made the earlier builds unusable on Win8.

Joe

I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.

Gordon

So how did Windows 8 get installed on it ?

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:06:56 -0000, "Dave-UK" wrote:


wrote in message ...
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:38 -0500, "Joe Morris"
wrote:

"Gordon" wrote:

I didn't install the current Norton setup that I have on my new
computer. It was instlled by the computer manufacrurer and was already
operational the first time I started the new compuer. But, I can't
figure out how to get rid of it. Gordon

Have you tried the "Programs and features" control panel?

Yes, I've tried the "Programs and Features" approach but got no
results.

Also...your posting did not say if the computer was delivered from HP with
Windows 8 installed, or with Windows 7 and you've installed Windows 8 as an
upgrade. Especially if the latter is the case, there's a good chance that
the version of Norton Antivirus (irrespective of its reputation) isn't
compatible with Windows 8. I have no experience with the Norton-branded
products (so I don't know when or if a Win8-compatible version of NAV
is/will be available), but the Windows 8-compatible production build of the
enterprise AV package (under the Symantec brand) was just released a couple
of days ago, fixing problems that made the earlier builds unusable on Win8.

Joe

I bought this computer from Staples, still in the box and it did have
Windows 7 and Norton installed by the manufacturer.

Gordon

So how did Windows 8 get installed on it ?

It was my understanding that the manufacturer, Hewlet Packard,
installed Windiows 8 at the time the computer components were being
assembled. Gordon

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:11 +0000, Robin Bignall
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:05:54 -0600, Gordon wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:37:03 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:

I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
than a full version.

I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
kind.

Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon

I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
problems so I removed it.

Steve

Steve, I'm headed in the same direction. Did you use the Control Panel
Remove Programs function or did you use some on-line removal tool?

No, add/delete programs does not clear Norton completely from your
system; that's yet another objection to it. Somewhere on
Norton/Symantic site there's a program that removes everything
Norton-ish from the system. It may be the one given upthread a little.

I finally got my computer restored to an earlier restore point and it
is working very well, again, but it still has Norton installed and I
can't find a workable means for getting it out of the way, totally.
The Norton removal link that was posted earlier in this thread seemed
to work but there were bits and pieces of Norton that showed up on my
computer, after the removal process had been completed. There was a
Norton Start Button in the Task Bar, but it didn't work. There were
Norton lines in some of the other program windows, too.

I did a restore point and everything is working well for the time
being but I still want to remove Norton completely and safely.

Gordon

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:35:15 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:11 +0000, Robin Bignall
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:05:54 -0600, Gordon wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:37:03 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:

I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
than a full version.

I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
kind.

Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon

I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
problems so I removed it.

Steve

Steve, I'm headed in the same direction. Did you use the Control Panel
Remove Programs function or did you use some on-line removal tool?

No, add/delete programs does not clear Norton completely from your
system; that's yet another objection to it. Somewhere on
Norton/Symantic site there's a program that removes everything
Norton-ish from the system. It may be the one given upthread a little.

I finally got my computer restored to an earlier restore point and it
is working very well, again, but it still has Norton installed and I
can't find a workable means for getting it out of the way, totally.
The Norton removal link that was posted earlier in this thread seemed
to work but there were bits and pieces of Norton that showed up on my
computer, after the removal process had been completed. There was a
Norton Start Button in the Task Bar, but it didn't work. There were
Norton lines in some of the other program windows, too.

Yes, removing norton/symantic products completely has been a headache
for years. One thing you could try is the Revo uninstaller program.
There is a free version, but I don't know how deep the scans work; I've
got the Pro version.

You can point it to 'norton' and it will display (after some time) every
registry key and file that is associated.

I did a restore point and everything is working well for the time
being but I still want to remove Norton completely and safely.


--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

On 11/19/2012 3:35 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:11 +0000, Robin Bignall
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:05:54 -0600, Gordon wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:37:03 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:19 -0600, wrote:

I'm trying to make a decision as to whether to keep or remove Symantec
Corporation Product Version 20.2.0,9 Anti Virus software that came
installed on my new Hewlett Packard computer. I've had some problems
with it but these may be the result of this trial version being less
than a full version.

I can't send the registration information for my Quicken accounting
software on this computer because Norton calls it an intrusion of some
kind.

Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon

I got the same Symantec product with a HP system. IMO the stuff causes
problems so I removed it.

Steve

Steve, I'm headed in the same direction. Did you use the Control Panel
Remove Programs function or did you use some on-line removal tool?

No, add/delete programs does not clear Norton completely from your
system; that's yet another objection to it. Somewhere on
Norton/Symantic site there's a program that removes everything
Norton-ish from the system. It may be the one given upthread a little.

I finally got my computer restored to an earlier restore point and it
is working very well, again, but it still has Norton installed and I
can't find a workable means for getting it out of the way, totally.
The Norton removal link that was posted earlier in this thread seemed
to work but there were bits and pieces of Norton that showed up on my
computer, after the removal process had been completed. There was a
Norton Start Button in the Task Bar, but it didn't work. There were
Norton lines in some of the other program windows, too.

I did a restore point and everything is working well for the time
being but I still want to remove Norton completely and safely.

Gordon


Run the Norton removal program again and then run CCleaner
(http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard) and use the
Registry Fixer but nuke ONLY the references to Norton and/or Symantec.

--
Alias

"Dave-UK" wrote in message ...


"FDK" wrote in message
...



Opinions and recommendations, please. Thanks, Gordon

Windows Security Essentials. If you use it, turn off Windows
Defender. It's a memory hog.

Microsoft security Essentials is not supported on Windows 8.
Look at the Key Features - "Supports Windows 7, Windows Vista, and
Windows XP"

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...tials-download

Windows Defender is the Microsoft antivirus that is part of Windows
8.
Windows Defender is not the same as the previous Defender, which was
just an antimalware program.

Good to know, thanks.