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Old November 28th 12, 07:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Windows Defender on Win8 - Updating Defs

It might be prudent to create a Scheduled Task for Defender on Win8 if WU is not configured to AU (Autoupdate) since
a. Defender doesn't have a user configurable setting to run a scheduled scan but it does perform a quick scan daily using current
installed defs
b. Defender doesn't update itself
c. Defender doesn't indicate an an out-of date condition until the 7th day after the last def creation date and only if the
Defender UI is opened by the user (since Defender does not provide a Notification Area icon)
d. Win8 Action Center does perform a check and notify the user but only if the Action Center Security settings are configured to
show messages for the respective item (Virus Protection, Spyware) and the defs are out-of-date using the same criteria as (c).
e. Defender, if finding the presence of an intrusion, will only update defs if new def signatures apply to the detected intrusion.
If more current defs are available they will be downloaded and applied to mitigate the intrusion.

The Win8 Scheduled task to check for new defs and update from the Malware Protection Center is:

C:\program files\windows defender\mpcmdrun.exe –SignatureUpdate –MMPC

Fyi...you can also run the above from a command prompt.


i.e. If you understand the above you should easily ascertain that Defender on Win8 (as-is currently released) does not operate the
same as MSE on earlier o/s (XP, Vista, Win7)


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Old December 1st 12, 06:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Boris[_4_]
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Default Windows Defender on Win8 - Updating Defs

"..winston" wrote in
:

It might be prudent to create a Scheduled Task for Defender on Win8 if
WU is not configured to AU (Autoupdate) since a. Defender doesn't have
a user configurable setting to run a scheduled scan but it does
perform a quick scan daily using current installed defs
b. Defender doesn't update itself
c. Defender doesn't indicate an an out-of date condition until the 7th
day after the last def creation date and only if the Defender UI is
opened by the user (since Defender does not provide a Notification
Area icon) d. Win8 Action Center does perform a check and notify the
user but only if the Action Center Security settings are configured to
show messages for the respective item (Virus Protection, Spyware) and
the defs are out-of-date using the same criteria as (c). e. Defender,
if finding the presence of an intrusion, will only update defs if new
def signatures apply to the detected intrusion. If more current defs
are available they will be downloaded and applied to mitigate the
intrusion.

The Win8 Scheduled task to check for new defs and update from the
Malware Protection Center is:

C:\program files\windows defender\mpcmdrun.exe –SignatureUpdate
–MMPC

Fyi...you can also run the above from a command prompt.


i.e. If you understand the above you should easily ascertain that
Defender on Win8 (as-is currently released) does not operate the same
as MSE on earlier o/s (XP, Vista, Win7)



For all the reasons you've listed, I've installed MSE on my Win8 laptop.
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Old December 2nd 12, 01:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
..winston
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Default Windows Defender on Win8 - Updating Defs


"Boris" wrote in message 4.100...

"..winston" wrote in
:

It might be prudent to create a Scheduled Task for Defender on Win8 if
WU is not configured to AU (Autoupdate)


For all the reasons you've listed, I've installed MSE on my Win8 laptop.


If you did then its' likely an earlier and a beta version of MSE was installed on Win8
- e.g. MSE v4.0.1512 since Win8 supposedly rejects production versions.

Fyi... g
See:
Microsoft Security Essentials loses AV-TEST certification
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11...ertif ication

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Old December 2nd 12, 02:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Boris[_4_]
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Default Windows Defender on Win8 - Updating Defs

"..winston" wrote in
:


"Boris" wrote in message
4.100...

"..winston" wrote in
:

It might be prudent to create a Scheduled Task for Defender on Win8

if
WU is not configured to AU (Autoupdate)


For all the reasons you've listed, I've installed MSE on my Win8

laptop.

If you did then its' likely an earlier and a beta version of MSE was
installed on Win8 - e.g. MSE v4.0.1512 since Win8 supposedly rejects
production versions.


Oh. I'll check it out, but I think MSE only shows spyware and virus
definition versions.


Fyi... g
See:
Microsoft Security Essentials loses AV-TEST certification
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11...y_essentials_l
oses_av_test_certification


Interesting article. Ouch! I also read the Related stories listed on
that page. My head is spinning from analysis paralysis. g

Thanks for the heads up.

 




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