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Old November 30th 12, 12:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Will[_8_]
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Default New to win8 - follow up Q

So I decided I should not have created that Admin account in the thread below.

How can I remove it?

In user a/c only user'er things can be done.
In Admin it say this is the only administrators account on the machine and can't be deleted - anyway how do you delete an account
whilst logged into that account?
It fibs, I found control userpasswords2 and it shows 'Administrator' (okay, may be hidden/inactive etc.) my 'Admin', the user
(required) and 'Guest' (I think this was "off").

I don't want to remove mine only to find the build in 'Administrator' account still shows.



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Old November 30th 12, 03:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default New to win8 - follow up Q

On 30/11/12 12:28, Will wrote:
So I decided I should not have created that Admin account in the thread below.

How can I remove it?

In user a/c only user'er things can be done.
In Admin it say this is the only administrators account on the machine and can't be deleted - anyway how do you delete an account
whilst logged into that account?
It fibs, I found control userpasswords2 and it shows 'Administrator' (okay, may be hidden/inactive etc.) my 'Admin', the user
(required) and 'Guest' (I think this was "off").

I don't want to remove mine only to find the build in 'Administrator' account still shows.




If Windows 8 is anything like all other previous versions, the built-in
Administrator account cannot be deleted.


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Old November 30th 12, 03:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Default New to win8 - follow up Q

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:28:03 -0000, "Will"
wrote in article ...

So I decided I should not have created that Admin account in the
thread below.

How can I remove it?

In user a/c only user'er things can be done. In Admin it say this is
the only administrators account on the machine and can't be deleted -
anyway how do you delete an account whilst logged into that account?
It fibs, I found control userpasswords2 and it shows 'Administrator'
(okay, may be hidden/inactive etc.) my 'Admin', the user (required)
and 'Guest' (I think this was "off").

I don't want to remove mine only to find the build in 'Administrator'
account still shows.


You need at least one account that is an administrator (in addition to
the hidden, disabled account called Administrator) so if that is the
only admin account you have set up, then you can't delete it.

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Old November 30th 12, 09:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Will[_8_]
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Default New to win8 - follow up Q - done

Okay, right or wrong I've "reset" the machine to original as I'd not done too much with it yet and the option was there.

Built daughter one account and left her to do what administration is ever required in the future - hopefully won't get into too
much of a mess (I didn't do so well myself!).

Activated windows, Installed a couple of things ahead for her. Only prompts as if UAC by doesn't need any other user/passwords to
do so - like a gentle version of must get you admin in.

Thanks all for the input.


Few questions left but will do some more research first, other than;- should her mess up her account password how can it get
resolved with no admin visible?


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Old November 30th 12, 09:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gordonbp
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On 30/11/12 21:23, Will wrote:


Few questions left but will do some more research first, other than;- should her mess up her account password how can it get
resolved with no admin visible?



You do need to set up another Admin account, with a password, and use it
for emergency access only, and for elevation purposes.
If you run with only one user account then you are asking for trouble.


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Old November 30th 12, 10:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:39:08 +0000, Gordonbp wrote:

On 30/11/12 21:23, Will wrote:


Few questions left but will do some more research first, other than;- should her mess up her account password how can it get
resolved with no admin visible?



You do need to set up another Admin account, with a password, and use it
for emergency access only, and for elevation purposes.
If you run with only one user account then you are asking for trouble.


The real Administrator account is there by default and not removable.
But you can't get there from here :-)

The trick is to open an elevated command prompt[1] and execute this
command:

net user Administrator /active:yes

Then log in (switch users) to the Administrator and do the dirty work.

When done, do the above command with "yes" replaced by "no".

[1] In the Start Orb search box, type cmd.exe or part of it, so that you
see the icon and label for Command Prompt above. Right click on that and
choose "Run as Administrator". Accept the UAC prompt and you're good to
go.

If you set up a password for the Administrator account, *don't* forget
it :-)

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Old November 30th 12, 10:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
mechanic
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Default New to win8 - follow up Q

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:39:41 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

You need at least one account that is an administrator (in addition to
the hidden, disabled account called Administrator) so if that is the
only admin account you have set up, then you can't delete it.


You can delete the user/administrator account from the Administrator
account - I've done it. Of course you need to enable the
Administrator account first to do this. I used the Local Users and
Groups Policy Editor (lusmgr.msc) to do this. I needed to do this
because for some reason Win8 installed with the wrong user name even
though the user account name was correct. The Windows installer
isn't very helpful on this. This is all very much the same as it was
in Windows7.
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Old December 2nd 12, 05:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Dominique
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Default New to win8 - follow up Q - done

"Gene E. Bloch" écrivait news:18y29w7zv75hc
:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:39:08 +0000, Gordonbp wrote:

On 30/11/12 21:23, Will wrote:

snip

[1] In the Start Orb search box, type cmd.exe or part of it, so that you
see the icon and label for Command Prompt above. Right click on that and
choose "Run as Administrator". Accept the UAC prompt and you're good to
go.

snip

There is no Start Orb on my Windows8 installation, to get to the search
box, if you're on the Metro page, just start typing and the search box will
appear at the right of the screen, once search find a match, it will show
up at the left of the screen, you right-click on it and the "run as
administrator" command shows up at the bottom of the screen.

If you're on the desktop, point your mouse to the upper right corner and
the magnifying glass for the search box will appear, click on the glass and
type cmd in the box, the rest of the process is the same as above.

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Old December 2nd 12, 05:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
anotherpaul
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On 2012-12-02, Dominique wrote:
"Gene E. Bloch" écrivait news:18y29w7zv75hc
:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:39:08 +0000, Gordonbp wrote:

On 30/11/12 21:23, Will wrote:

snip

[1] In the Start Orb search box, type cmd.exe or part of it, so that you
see the icon and label for Command Prompt above. Right click on that and
choose "Run as Administrator". Accept the UAC prompt and you're good to
go.

snip

There is no Start Orb on my Windows8 installation, to get to the search
box, if you're on the Metro page, just start typing and the search box will
appear at the right of the screen, once search find a match, it will show
up at the left of the screen, you right-click on it and the "run as
administrator" command shows up at the bottom of the screen.

If you're on the desktop, point your mouse to the upper right corner and
the magnifying glass for the search box will appear, click on the glass and
type cmd in the box, the rest of the process is the same as above.

If on the Desktop, move mouse pointer to bottom left corner; when the
metro page icon appears, right click & a look-like old start column
appears where both the regular command prompt & the command prompt
(admin) appears for selection.

Also, the "run" command is on the list.
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Old December 2nd 12, 07:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Dominique
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anotherpaul écrivait news:k9g3vv$4u3
:

On 2012-12-02, Dominique wrote:
"Gene E. Bloch" écrivait news:18y29w7zv75hc
:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:39:08 +0000, Gordonbp wrote:

On 30/11/12 21:23, Will wrote:

snip

[1] In the Start Orb search box, type cmd.exe or part of it, so that

you
see the icon and label for Command Prompt above. Right click on that

and
choose "Run as Administrator". Accept the UAC prompt and you're good

to
go.

snip

There is no Start Orb on my Windows8 installation, to get to the

search
box, if you're on the Metro page, just start typing and the search box

will
appear at the right of the screen, once search find a match, it will

show
up at the left of the screen, you right-click on it and the "run as
administrator" command shows up at the bottom of the screen.

If you're on the desktop, point your mouse to the upper right corner

and
the magnifying glass for the search box will appear, click on the

glass and
type cmd in the box, the rest of the process is the same as above.

If on the Desktop, move mouse pointer to bottom left corner; when the
metro page icon appears, right click & a look-like old start column
appears where both the regular command prompt & the command prompt
(admin) appears for selection.

Also, the "run" command is on the list.


Didn't know, thanks

I'm still learning.
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Old December 3rd 12, 01:49 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:45:54 +0000 (UTC), Dominique wrote:

anotherpaul ÛÍivait news:k9g3vv$4u3
:

On 2012-12-02, Dominique wrote:
"Gene E. Bloch" ÛÍivait news:18y29w7zv75hc
:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:39:08 +0000, Gordonbp wrote:

On 30/11/12 21:23, Will wrote:

snip

[1] In the Start Orb search box, type cmd.exe or part of it, so that

you
see the icon and label for Command Prompt above. Right click on that

and
choose "Run as Administrator". Accept the UAC prompt and you're good

to
go.

snip

There is no Start Orb on my Windows8 installation, to get to the

search
box, if you're on the Metro page, just start typing and the search box

will
appear at the right of the screen, once search find a match, it will

show
up at the left of the screen, you right-click on it and the "run as
administrator" command shows up at the bottom of the screen.

If you're on the desktop, point your mouse to the upper right corner

and
the magnifying glass for the search box will appear, click on the

glass and
type cmd in the box, the rest of the process is the same as above.

If on the Desktop, move mouse pointer to bottom left corner; when the
metro page icon appears, right click & a look-like old start column
appears where both the regular command prompt & the command prompt
(admin) appears for selection.

Also, the "run" command is on the list.


Didn't know, thanks

I'm still learning.


Me too. Sorry, I forgot that this was the Windows 8 newsgroup.

Thanks, anotherpaul, for saving the situation :-)

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Old December 3rd 12, 03:21 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
anotherpaul
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On 2012-12-03, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:45:54 +0000 (UTC), Dominique wrote:

anotherpaul ??ivait news:k9g3vv$4u3
:


If on the Desktop, move mouse pointer to bottom left corner; when the
metro page icon appears, right click & a look-like old start column
appears where both the regular command prompt & the command prompt
(admin) appears for selection.

Also, the "run" command is on the list.


Didn't know, thanks

I'm still learning.


Me too. Sorry, I forgot that this was the Windows 8 newsgroup.

Thanks, anotherpaul, for saving the situation :-)

Me too! m$ seem to think that one has to learn about their OS until
it is no longer supported. Lots of hidden & changed stuff makes one
have to relearn. Just found that cannot map a network drive BUT have
to "mount" the drive & get a defaulted drive letter as looks like one
is not allowed to assign a preferred drive letter.

Will most likely encounter more gotchas from microsoft.
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Old December 3rd 12, 09:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Tom Lake
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"anotherpaul" wrote in message ...

On 2012-12-03, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:45:54 +0000 (UTC), Dominique wrote:

anotherpaul ??ivait news:k9g3vv$4u3
:


If on the Desktop, move mouse pointer to bottom left corner; when the
metro page icon appears, right click & a look-like old start column
appears where both the regular command prompt & the command prompt
(admin) appears for selection.

Also, the "run" command is on the list.


Didn't know, thanks

I'm still learning.


Me too. Sorry, I forgot that this was the Windows 8 newsgroup.

Thanks, anotherpaul, for saving the situation :-)

Me too! m$ seem to think that one has to learn about their OS until
it is no longer supported. Lots of hidden & changed stuff makes one
have to relearn. Just found that cannot map a network drive BUT have
to "mount" the drive & get a defaulted drive letter as looks like one
is not allowed to assign a preferred drive letter.

In Win 8 you can still map a network drive and assign drive letters.
What made you think you can't?

Tom Lake

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Old December 3rd 12, 01:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Default New to win8 - follow up Q

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:34:06 +0000, "mechanic"
wrote in article ...

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:39:41 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

You need at least one account that is an administrator (in addition to
the hidden, disabled account called Administrator) so if that is the
only admin account you have set up, then you can't delete it.


You can delete the user/administrator account from the Administrator
account - I've done it. Of course you need to enable the
Administrator account first to do this. I used the Local Users and
Groups Policy Editor (lusmgr.msc) to do this. I needed to do this
because for some reason Win8 installed with the wrong user name even
though the user account name was correct. The Windows installer
isn't very helpful on this. This is all very much the same as it was
in Windows7.


Sigh. OK, yes, you can do that but only because you've enabled the
built-in Administrator account. The idea is you can't delete the last
*currently enabled* administrator-level account.

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The effect of one is like having your brain smashed out
by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.
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Old December 3rd 12, 04:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 2012-12-03, Tom Lake wrote:
"anotherpaul" wrote in message ...

On 2012-12-03, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:45:54 +0000 (UTC), Dominique wrote:

anotherpaul ??ivait news:k9g3vv$4u3
:


If on the Desktop, move mouse pointer to bottom left corner; when the
metro page icon appears, right click & a look-like old start column
appears where both the regular command prompt & the command prompt
(admin) appears for selection.

Also, the "run" command is on the list.


Didn't know, thanks

I'm still learning.


Me too. Sorry, I forgot that this was the Windows 8 newsgroup.

Thanks, anotherpaul, for saving the situation :-)

Me too! m$ seem to think that one has to learn about their OS until
it is no longer supported. Lots of hidden & changed stuff makes one
have to relearn. Just found that cannot map a network drive BUT have
to "mount" the drive & get a defaulted drive letter as looks like one
is not allowed to assign a preferred drive letter.

In Win 8 you can still map a network drive and assign drive letters.
What made you think you can't?

Tom Lake

Didn't find a place to do that for my MBL. Did a right-click on the
drive & see "mount" which I did & it showed up on my drive listing as
"Z:". The "mapping" allows me to go directly into the MBL while
without it I can still listen to music or view videos just like any
DLNA client compatible device.

Can you post the procedure to get into the drive mapping as I didn't
see anything in the network area like that in win7.
 




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