just tryed win8 at computer store

After reading all the stuff posted for and against win8 I've been on
the fence about installing it over my win7. So many people made it
sound like it would be mass confusion, what with the disappearance of
the desktop. So I've been reading and picked up a little bit of info
on how to move the mouse and use the windows key. So at the comp
store today I tried a couple of Win8 computers and was surprised to
see that there was really not a big deal with the change. Yeah, the
main screen was just the Tiles. hit the windows key and boom, up
popped the desktop just like the old days. Not at all the "lost in
space" encounter I was expecting. Since I already bought the upgrade
I will do one more backup of my machine and install it and give it a
whirl.

I tried windows 7 and windows 8 so i'm still using windows xp for the
forseeable future.

Ashton Crusher wrote:

After reading all the stuff posted for and against win8 I've been on
the fence about installing it over my win7. So many people made it
sound like it would be mass confusion, what with the disappearance of
the desktop. So I've been reading and picked up a little bit of info
on how to move the mouse and use the windows key. So at the comp
store today I tried a couple of Win8 computers and was surprised to
see that there was really not a big deal with the change. Yeah, the
main screen was just the Tiles. hit the windows key and boom, up
popped the desktop just like the old days. Not at all the "lost in
space" encounter I was expecting. Since I already bought the upgrade
I will do one more backup of my machine and install it and give it a
whirl.

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Ashton Crusher wrote:

After reading all the stuff posted for and against win8 I've been on
the fence about installing it over my win7. So many people made it
sound like it would be mass confusion, what with the disappearance of
the desktop. So I've been reading and picked up a little bit of info
on how to move the mouse and use the windows key. So at the comp
store today I tried a couple of Win8 computers and was surprised to
see that there was really not a big deal with the change. Yeah, the
main screen was just the Tiles. hit the windows key and boom, up
popped the desktop just like the old days. Not at all the "lost in
space" encounter I was expecting. Since I already bought the upgrade
I will do one more backup of my machine and install it and give it a
whirl.

Why not install the upgrade on a separate partition (as I did) and dual
boot until such time as you decide which you prefer?


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XS11E wrote:
Ashton Crusher wrote:

After reading all the stuff posted for and against win8 I've been on
the fence about installing it over my win7. So many people made it
sound like it would be mass confusion, what with the disappearance of
the desktop. So I've been reading and picked up a little bit of info
on how to move the mouse and use the windows key. So at the comp
store today I tried a couple of Win8 computers and was surprised to
see that there was really not a big deal with the change. Yeah, the
main screen was just the Tiles. hit the windows key and boom, up
popped the desktop just like the old days. Not at all the "lost in
space" encounter I was expecting. Since I already bought the upgrade
I will do one more backup of my machine and install it and give it a
whirl.

Why not install the upgrade on a separate partition (as I did) and dual
boot until such time as you decide which you prefer?



One very good reason. Win8 will fight with Win7 and (in my experience)
win unless you are extremely sharp and on the ball.
At the worst it will remove Win7; at the very least it will do all it
can to make life difficult with techniques such as having a disk scan
every time it boots.

Ed

On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 00:00:28 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:

After reading all the stuff posted for and against win8 I've been on the
fence about installing it over my win7. So many people made it sound
like it would be mass confusion, what with the disappearance of the
desktop. So I've been reading and picked up a little bit of info on how
to move the mouse and use the windows key. So at the comp store today I
tried a couple of Win8 computers and was surprised to see that there was
really not a big deal with the change. Yeah, the main screen was just
the Tiles. hit the windows key and boom, up popped the desktop just
like the old days. Not at all the "lost in space" encounter I was
expecting. Since I already bought the upgrade I will do one more backup
of my machine and install it and give it a whirl.

Why do you need to upgrade? W7 isn't all that old like XP. Is there
something that Windows 8 does (or does better) that Windows 7 doesn't?
Or is it that Windows 8 is the new toy that you have to have?


Stef

"Ed Cryer" wrote in message ...


One very good reason. Win8 will fight with Win7 and (in my experience)
win unless you are extremely sharp and on the ball.
At the worst it will remove Win7; at the very least it will do all it
can to make life difficult with techniques such as having a disk scan
every time it boots.


No fight here dual (W7Pro/W8Pro) or triple booting (W7HP, W7Pro, W8Pro)
Did not remove Win7.
No disk scan issues


Possibly you could elaborate on the meaning of 'fight with Win7, how it will remove Win7, and what technique is being used to disk
scan.

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Ed Cryer wrote:

XS11E wrote:
Why not install the upgrade on a separate partition (as I did)
and dual boot until such time as you decide which you prefer?

One very good reason. Win8 will fight with Win7 and (in my
experience) win unless you are extremely sharp and on the ball.
At the worst it will remove Win7; at the very least it will do all
it can to make life difficult with techniques such as having a
disk scan every time it boots.

I don't know what to say, everything you say is completely, totally,
incorrect in my experience.

My Win7 and Win8 installs have been co-existing for weeks now with no
problems of any kind.


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On 12/2/2012 3:35 PM, XS11E wrote:
Ed wrote:

XS11E wrote:
Why not install the upgrade on a separate partition (as I did)
and dual boot until such time as you decide which you prefer?

One very good reason. Win8 will fight with Win7 and (in my
experience) win unless you are extremely sharp and on the ball.
At the worst it will remove Win7; at the very least it will do all
it can to make life difficult with techniques such as having a
disk scan every time it boots.

I don't know what to say, everything you say is completely, totally,
incorrect in my experience.

My Win7 and Win8 installs have been co-existing for weeks now with no
problems of any kind.

Oh really? So you are running the same hardware, same Windows builds,
with the exactly the same updates, and exactly the same applications
that other people who has problems with their dualboot setups? That is
just amazing! Otherwise it is just comparing apples to oranges.

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On 12/2/2012 2:39 PM, ..winston wrote:
"Ed Cryer" wrote in message ...

One very good reason. Win8 will fight with Win7 and (in my
experience) win unless you are extremely sharp and on the ball.
At the worst it will remove Win7; at the very least it will do all
it can to make life difficult with techniques such as having a disk
scan every time it boots.

No fight here dual (W7Pro/W8Pro) or triple booting (W7HP, W7Pro, W8Pro)
Did not remove Win7.
No disk scan issues

Possibly you could elaborate on the meaning of 'fight with Win7, how it
will remove Win7, and what technique is being used to disk scan.

Not all will. Otherwise they never would have had passed beta testing.
I've used dualboots off and on for about 15 years. And I won't do it
anymore. So many disadvantages to dualboot setups. Having one OS per
machine is so much better.

Last machine I had dualbooting was one XP and Windows 7 beta. Everything
worked great until I deleted Windows 7. I had to fix the XP boot and
even had to remove the boot folder and the extra files that Windows 7
dumped in the XP partition. Bad, bad Windows 7! All seemed to be well
again. But Paragon when I cloned this drive to make a backup, thinks it
is still a dualboot system and changes the MBR to boot up using the BCD
method. Paragon even knows the correct Windows 7 build listed in its
logs. PIA to fix! I need to install a floppy drive with the SATA drivers
when I run the XP install disc to repair the MBR once again. So sorry I
setup that machine to dualboot in the first place. Now I have to pay
with the rest of my life for that mistake.

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XS11E wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:

XS11E wrote:
Why not install the upgrade on a separate partition (as I did)
and dual boot until such time as you decide which you prefer?

One very good reason. Win8 will fight with Win7 and (in my
experience) win unless you are extremely sharp and on the ball.
At the worst it will remove Win7; at the very least it will do all
it can to make life difficult with techniques such as having a
disk scan every time it boots.

I don't know what to say, everything you say is completely, totally,
incorrect in my experience.

My Win7 and Win8 installs have been co-existing for weeks now with no
problems of any kind.



When I tested more than one OS, with the Windows 8 preview,
I saw the CHKDSK issue. For me, it was a matter of turning
off the disk spindown option in Windows 8. That seemed to
fix it. I think someone else here, posted an alternate
solution for it.

But out of the box (like, if my mom installed Windows 8),
chances are there'll be CHKDSK on a dual boot system.
If Windows 8 is the only OS, who knows what you might
see.

Paul

XS11E wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:

XS11E wrote:
Why not install the upgrade on a separate partition (as I did)
and dual boot until such time as you decide which you prefer?

One very good reason. Win8 will fight with Win7 and (in my
experience) win unless you are extremely sharp and on the ball.
At the worst it will remove Win7; at the very least it will do all
it can to make life difficult with techniques such as having a
disk scan every time it boots.

I don't know what to say, everything you say is completely, totally,
incorrect in my experience.

My Win7 and Win8 installs have been co-existing for weeks now with no
problems of any kind.



You say they're on separate partitions. Are they on separate drives as well?

Ed

On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:35:50 -0700, XS11E wrote:

Ed Cryer wrote:

XS11E wrote:
Why not install the upgrade on a separate partition (as I did)
and dual boot until such time as you decide which you prefer?

One very good reason. Win8 will fight with Win7 and (in my
experience) win unless you are extremely sharp and on the ball.
At the worst it will remove Win7; at the very least it will do
all it can to make life difficult with techniques such as having
a disk scan every time it boots.

I don't know what to say, everything you say is completely,
totally, incorrect in my experience.

My Win7 and Win8 installs have been co-existing for weeks now
with no problems of any kind.

+1 here. Sorry, Ed., we need more detail!

On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:18:09 +0000 (UTC), Stefan Patric wrote:

Why do you need to upgrade? W7 isn't all that old like XP. Is
there something that Windows 8 does (or does better) that Windows
7 doesn't? Or is it that Windows 8 is the new toy that you have
to have?

Yes, it's nearly Christmas and the win8 offer is too cheap to
refuse!

Plus the threatened demise soon of the win7 Enterprize ed. re-arm
route to a cheap version, and the WinXP getting so old it smells!

mechanic wrote:
On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:35:50 -0700, XS11E wrote:

Ed Cryer wrote:

XS11E wrote:
Why not install the upgrade on a separate partition (as I did)
and dual boot until such time as you decide which you prefer?

One very good reason. Win8 will fight with Win7 and (in my
experience) win unless you are extremely sharp and on the ball.
At the worst it will remove Win7; at the very least it will do
all it can to make life difficult with techniques such as having
a disk scan every time it boots.

I don't know what to say, everything you say is completely,
totally, incorrect in my experience.

My Win7 and Win8 installs have been co-existing for weeks now
with no problems of any kind.

+1 here. Sorry, Ed., we need more detail!


It all happened earlier this year when I was testing Win8. That was a
pre-release version. I installed in on a separate partition of my HD,
and it gobbled up the Win7 very quickly. I sorted that out with
excellent help in the Win7 NG (all fully documented in the archives, if
anyone is interested), but then Win8 started setting the Win7 dirty bit.
It ended up as a real battle, so I installed it under a virtual machine
instead; that worked fine.
Maybe the problem was local to pre-release versions. I bought a copy of
Win8 a few weeks ago, but I've got no use for it just yet. I enjoyed all
the testing but am fully satisfied with Win7 for now.

Ed

On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:35:50 -0700, XS11E
wrote:

Ed Cryer wrote:

XS11E wrote:
Why not install the upgrade on a separate partition (as I did)
and dual boot until such time as you decide which you prefer?

One very good reason. Win8 will fight with Win7 and (in my
experience) win unless you are extremely sharp and on the ball.
At the worst it will remove Win7; at the very least it will do all
it can to make life difficult with techniques such as having a
disk scan every time it boots.

I don't know what to say, everything you say is completely, totally,
incorrect in my experience.


Right! Saying that having two operating systems dual-booting will
cause one to fight with the other is like saying that if your
television set can get two or more channels they will fight with each
other.



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