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#46
December 6th 12, 07:34 PM
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On 12/6/2012 12:12 PM, XS11E wrote:
wrote: On 12/3/2012 10:38 AM, XS11E wrote: wrote: I've used dualboots off and on for about 15 years. And I won't do it anymore. So many disadvantages to dualboot setups. And they are? 1) You can *only* run one OS at a time. And the other one has to be totally shutdown. How is that a disadvantage? I can only run one OS at a time, that's a limitation built into ME. It is a huge limitation for me. The way I work, I can have two or more OS running at the same time. And none of this VM nonsense. Each OS has 100% use of the CPU. And if I do updates or a driver install and I need to reboot, only one OS is affected. The other one(s) just keeps cruising along. 2) Using Microsoft's directions, you end up with OS installed on drives other than Drive C. Some software installs will place all or parts on the drive C. Even though it doesn't belong on that partition. Sure things might work ok, but maybe not after a time. Wrong, Win7 installed on drive C:, Win8 installed on a separate partition and renamed it to C: and renamed the Win7 partition to something else, all my previous dual boots have worked that way and there have been NO problems with any software installs, none. I'm wondering where you got your mis-information? remaining mis-information snipped Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Assuming of course you are not replacing the existing one on C. -- Bill Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('11 era) - Thunderbird v12 Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1 
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#47
December 6th 12, 07:47 PM
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under each boot. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
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December 6th 12, 08:11 PM
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On 12/6/2012 1:47 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote: Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under each boot. Is that so, Gene? I've done it dozens of times and I know you are wrong. Say you have two partitions. The last one is empty (where you plan on installing Windows 7 let's say) and the first one has XP installed. Microsoft tells you to run the Windows 7 install setup.exe under XP. And then tell Windows 7 setup to install on the second partition. And if XP is installed on drive C, Windows 7 can never be on drive C on the other partition under the Microsoft method. This same problem pops up during cloning too (most cloning programs get around it). The problem is once the first Windows OS sees the other drive or partition and it gets a drive letter, now you are screwed. Whatever XP in this case calls that other partition, that is what it will be when you boot that new Windows. -- Bill Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('11 era) - Thunderbird v12 Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1
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December 6th 12, 08:23 PM
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December 6th 12, 09:11 PM
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"Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message ... On 12/6/2012 2:23 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:47:05 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch" not- lid wrote in article 1mlf7b0faa4km ... On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote: Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under each boot. Yup, exactly so. Install XP to Drive 1 Partition 1, leave Partition 2 empty. XP assigns C: to Partition 1 and D: to Partition 2. Install Windows 7 to Partition 2, and when you boot into Windows 7, Partition 2 is C: and Partition 1 is D:. Confused the daylights out of me the first time it did that until I figured out what happened. 100% correct, drive letters reversed so your boot drive is always C, Done it many times. Rene YES! +1 Chris
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#52
December 6th 12, 09:16 PM
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On 12/6/2012 3:11 PM, Chris S. wrote:
"Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message ... On 12/6/2012 2:23 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:47:05 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch" not- lid wrote in article 1mlf7b0faa4km ... On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote: Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under each boot. Yup, exactly so. Install XP to Drive 1 Partition 1, leave Partition 2 empty. XP assigns C: to Partition 1 and D: to Partition 2. Install Windows 7 to Partition 2, and when you boot into Windows 7, Partition 2 is C: and Partition 1 is D:. Confused the daylights out of me the first time it did that until I figured out what happened. 100% correct, drive letters reversed so your boot drive is always C, Done it many times. Rene YES! +1 Chris Only true if you boot from the Windows install disc. If you do it the Microsoft way and run setup.exe from the first Windows like Microsoft says, it does not. -- Bill Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('11 era) - Thunderbird v12 Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1
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#53
December 6th 12, 09:26 PM
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On 12/6/2012 3:16 PM, BillW50 wrote:
On 12/6/2012 3:11 PM, Chris S. wrote: "Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message ... On 12/6/2012 2:23 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:47:05 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch" not- lid wrote in article 1mlf7b0faa4km ... On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote: Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under each boot. Yup, exactly so. Install XP to Drive 1 Partition 1, leave Partition 2 empty. XP assigns C: to Partition 1 and D: to Partition 2. Install Windows 7 to Partition 2, and when you boot into Windows 7, Partition 2 is C: and Partition 1 is D:. Confused the daylights out of me the first time it did that until I figured out what happened. 100% correct, drive letters reversed so your boot drive is always C, Done it many times. Rene YES! +1 Chris Only true if you boot from the Windows install disc. If you do it the Microsoft way and run setup.exe from the first Windows like Microsoft says, it does not. Don't know what your doing wrong but it works fine for me. Rene
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#54
December 6th 12, 09:32 PM
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On 12/6/2012 3:26 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 12/6/2012 3:16 PM, BillW50 wrote: On 12/6/2012 3:11 PM, Chris S. wrote: "Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message ... On 12/6/2012 2:23 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:47:05 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch" not- lid wrote in article 1mlf7b0faa4km ... On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote: Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under each boot. Yup, exactly so. Install XP to Drive 1 Partition 1, leave Partition 2 empty. XP assigns C: to Partition 1 and D: to Partition 2. Install Windows 7 to Partition 2, and when you boot into Windows 7, Partition 2 is C: and Partition 1 is D:. Confused the daylights out of me the first time it did that until I figured out what happened. 100% correct, drive letters reversed so your boot drive is always C, Done it many times. Rene YES! +1 Chris Only true if you boot from the Windows install disc. If you do it the Microsoft way and run setup.exe from the first Windows like Microsoft says, it does not. Don't know what your doing wrong but it works fine for me. Rene You ran the Windows install disc from boot up, right? You didn't run the disc from the first Windows, right? Yes, I thought so. -- Bill Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('11 era) - Thunderbird v12 Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1
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December 6th 12, 09:42 PM
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"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote: Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under each boot. Gene you are correct. The drive lettering is dynamic. The o/s that is loaded from the multi-boot menu in a multi-boot system will be C:\ the other partitions will be assigned later drive letters. Nor does it matter if the o/s reside on the same or different drives. As an example - http://sdrv.ms/TVH8N2 Picture shows a triple boot system (one XP, and two Windows 7 Pro's) currently booted to one of the Win7 (Drive C  . The other o/s are XP (Drive D: and Win7 Pro4Beta Drive E .Note the labeling that shows the Disk and Partition (D0, D1 are the separate disks, P1 and P2 the partition on those disks) First Disk is D0 and has two operating systems XP on P1 (first partition), Win7 on P2 (second partition). Second Disk is D1 and has one operating system Win7 on P1 (first partition) Currently (shown in pic) loaded o/s is Win7 on Disk 0 (D0) and Partition 2 (P2) and is drive C: with XP (D0, P1) becoming drive D:, and Win7 (D1, P1) drive E: If XP on Disk 0 Partition 1 was loaded it becomes drive C:, Win7 on Disk 0 Partition 2 would be drive D: and Win7 on Disk 1 Partition 1 would be drive E: If Win7 on Disk 1 Partition 1 was loaded it becomes drive C:, XP on Disk 0 Partition 1 would be drive D: and Win7 on Disk 0 Partition 2 would E: i.e. drives letters are dynamic, not static. -- ....winston msft mvp
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December 6th 12, 09:49 PM
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On 12/6/2012 3:32 PM, BillW50 wrote:
On 12/6/2012 3:26 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 12/6/2012 3:16 PM, BillW50 wrote: On 12/6/2012 3:11 PM, Chris S. wrote: "Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message ... On 12/6/2012 2:23 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:47:05 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch" not- lid wrote in article 1mlf7b0faa4km ... On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote: Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under each boot. Yup, exactly so. Install XP to Drive 1 Partition 1, leave Partition 2 empty. XP assigns C: to Partition 1 and D: to Partition 2. Install Windows 7 to Partition 2, and when you boot into Windows 7, Partition 2 is C: and Partition 1 is D:. Confused the daylights out of me the first time it did that until I figured out what happened. 100% correct, drive letters reversed so your boot drive is always C, Done it many times. Rene YES! +1 Chris Only true if you boot from the Windows install disc. If you do it the Microsoft way and run setup.exe from the first Windows like Microsoft says, it does not. Don't know what your doing wrong but it works fine for me. Rene You ran the Windows install disc from boot up, right? You didn't run the disc from the first Windows, right? Yes, I thought so. Wrong, and what you "thought" isn't so, and besides I don't give a hoot what You Thought.. Rene
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December 6th 12, 09:51 PM
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On 12/6/2012 3:42 PM, ..winston wrote:
"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote: Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under each boot. Gene you are correct. The drive lettering is dynamic. The o/s that is loaded from the multi-boot menu in a multi-boot system will be C:\ the other partitions will be assigned later drive letters. Nor does it matter if the o/s reside on the same or different drives. As an example - http://sdrv.ms/TVH8N2 Picture shows a triple boot system (one XP, and two Windows 7 Pro's) currently booted to one of the Win7 (Drive C . The other o/s are XP(Drive D: and Win7 Pro4Beta Drive E .Note the labeling that shows the Disk and Partition (D0, D1 are the separate disks, P1 and P2 the partition on those disks) First Disk is D0 and has two operating systems XP on P1 (first partition), Win7 on P2 (second partition). Second Disk is D1 and has one operating system Win7 on P1 (first partition) Currently (shown in pic) loaded o/s is Win7 on Disk 0 (D0) and Partition 2 (P2) and is drive C: with XP (D0, P1) becoming drive D:, and Win7 (D1, P1) drive E: If XP on Disk 0 Partition 1 was loaded it becomes drive C:, Win7 on Disk 0 Partition 2 would be drive D: and Win7 on Disk 1 Partition 1 would be drive E: If Win7 on Disk 1 Partition 1 was loaded it becomes drive C:, XP on Disk 0 Partition 1 would be drive D: and Win7 on Disk 0 Partition 2 would E: i.e. drives letters are dynamic, not static. Only true if you install dualboot with the new Windows from the install disc. If you install the new Windows from the previous Windows, it does not. -- Bill Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('11 era) - Thunderbird v12 Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1
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December 6th 12, 09:59 PM
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On 12/6/2012 3:42 PM, ..winston wrote:
"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote: Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under each boot. Gene you are correct. The drive lettering is dynamic. The o/s that is loaded from the multi-boot menu in a multi-boot system will be C:\ the other partitions will be assigned later drive letters. Nor does it matter if the o/s reside on the same or different drives. As an example - http://sdrv.ms/TVH8N2 Picture shows a triple boot system (one XP, and two Windows 7 Pro's) currently booted to one of the Win7 (Drive C . The other o/s are XP(Drive D: and Win7 Pro4Beta Drive E .Note the labeling that shows the Disk and Partition (D0, D1 are the separate disks, P1 and P2 the partition on those disks) First Disk is D0 and has two operating systems XP on P1 (first partition), Win7 on P2 (second partition). Second Disk is D1 and has one operating system Win7 on P1 (first partition) Currently (shown in pic) loaded o/s is Win7 on Disk 0 (D0) and Partition 2 (P2) and is drive C: with XP (D0, P1) becoming drive D:, and Win7 (D1, P1) drive E: If XP on Disk 0 Partition 1 was loaded it becomes drive C:, Win7 on Disk 0 Partition 2 would be drive D: and Win7 on Disk 1 Partition 1 would be drive E: If Win7 on Disk 1 Partition 1 was loaded it becomes drive C:, XP on Disk 0 Partition 1 would be drive D: and Win7 on Disk 0 Partition 2 would E: i.e. drives letters are dynamic, not static. Only true if you install dualboot with the new Windows from the install disc. If you install the new Windows from the previous Windows, it does not. -- Bill Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('11 era) - Thunderbird v12 Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1
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December 6th 12, 09:59 PM
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"BillW50" wrote in message ... On 12/6/2012 3:42 PM, ..winston wrote: "Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote: Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under each boot. Gene you are correct. The drive lettering is dynamic. The o/s that is loaded from the multi-boot menu in a multi-boot system will be C:\ the other partitions will be assigned later drive letters. Nor does it matter if the o/s reside on the same or different drives. As an example - http://sdrv.ms/TVH8N2 Picture shows a triple boot system (one XP, and two Windows 7 Pro's) currently booted to one of the Win7 (Drive C . The other o/s are XP(Drive D: and Win7 Pro4Beta Drive E .Note the labeling that shows the Disk and Partition (D0, D1 are the separate disks, P1 and P2 the partition on those disks) First Disk is D0 and has two operating systems XP on P1 (first partition), Win7 on P2 (second partition). Second Disk is D1 and has one operating system Win7 on P1 (first partition) Currently (shown in pic) loaded o/s is Win7 on Disk 0 (D0) and Partition 2 (P2) and is drive C: with XP (D0, P1) becoming drive D:, and Win7 (D1, P1) drive E: If XP on Disk 0 Partition 1 was loaded it becomes drive C:, Win7 on Disk 0 Partition 2 would be drive D: and Win7 on Disk 1 Partition 1 would be drive E: If Win7 on Disk 1 Partition 1 was loaded it becomes drive C:, XP on Disk 0 Partition 1 would be drive D: and Win7 on Disk 0 Partition 2 would E: i.e. drives letters are dynamic, not static. Only true if you install dualboot with the new Windows from the install disc. If you install the new Windows from the previous Windows, it does not. I can't imagine installing Windows any other way than with a clean installation from the booted DVD. Allowing the setup to format the drive as well. Chris
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December 6th 12, 10:03 PM
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On 12/6/2012 3:59 PM, Chris S. wrote:
"BillW50" wrote in message ... On 12/6/2012 3:42 PM, ..winston wrote: "Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote: Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the first one is on drive C. Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under each boot. Gene you are correct. The drive lettering is dynamic. The o/s that is loaded from the multi-boot menu in a multi-boot system will be C:\ the other partitions will be assigned later drive letters. Nor does it matter if the o/s reside on the same or different drives. As an example - http://sdrv.ms/TVH8N2 Picture shows a triple boot system (one XP, and two Windows 7 Pro's) currently booted to one of the Win7 (Drive C . The other o/s are XP(Drive D: and Win7 Pro4Beta Drive E .Note the labeling that shows the Disk and Partition (D0, D1 are the separate disks, P1 and P2 the partition on those disks) First Disk is D0 and has two operating systems XP on P1 (first partition), Win7 on P2 (second partition). Second Disk is D1 and has one operating system Win7 on P1 (first partition) Currently (shown in pic) loaded o/s is Win7 on Disk 0 (D0) and Partition 2 (P2) and is drive C: with XP (D0, P1) becoming drive D:, and Win7 (D1, P1) drive E: If XP on Disk 0 Partition 1 was loaded it becomes drive C:, Win7 on Disk 0 Partition 2 would be drive D: and Win7 on Disk 1 Partition 1 would be drive E: If Win7 on Disk 1 Partition 1 was loaded it becomes drive C:, XP on Disk 0 Partition 1 would be drive D: and Win7 on Disk 0 Partition 2 would E: i.e. drives letters are dynamic, not static. Only true if you install dualboot with the new Windows from the install disc. If you install the new Windows from the previous Windows, it does not. I can't imagine installing Windows any other way than with a clean installation from the booted DVD. Allowing the setup to format the drive as well. Chris What can I tell you, that works great of course. But Microsoft tells you otherwise. They tell you to run setup.exe on the install disc from the first installed Windows. That too works great if you to upgrade the previous Windows, but not for dualbooting as the drive letters on the new Windows won't be drive C. -- Bill Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('11 era) - Thunderbird v12 Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1
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