just tryed win8 at computer store

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:46:04 -0500, "..winston"
wrote:

"Chris S." wrote in message installing clean.

Totally correct thinking, Rene! I agree wholeheartedly.
A pristine installation is the only way to go.

It's also faster than upgrading (and has been since Vista)


Well, the *Windows installation* may be faster, but if you add in all
the restoring of data backups, installations of applications,
configuration of Windows and all the applications, it's *much* slower.

It's for that reason that I almost always recommend at least trying an
upgrade rather than clean installing (but being prepared to do a clean
installation if the upgrade leads to problems).


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On 2012-12-07, XS11E wrote:
Robin Bignall wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:24:38 -0700, XS11E
wrote:

"Chris S." wrote:

But I see no benefit to "install the new Windows from the
previous Windows".

That's how you upgrade, not how you install a different OS.

BillW50 is mistaken when he says "that's how MSFT tells you do do
it" when my PC tells me to reboot on the install PC if I don't
want to upgrade.

Sorry, but Bill is right.

Bill is wrong, of course.

The only written instructions I got with Win8 we "Start
Windows, insert the appropriate (32 or 64 bit) disk into your
reader, and follow the instructions on the screen".

Correct and the next screen, if you don't chose upgrade, is to restart
the PC and boot on the CD. BTDT, several times.

If an upgrade is possible the installer gives you the choice
between upgrade or clean. If you choose clean, it tells you to
boot from the Win8 disk after shutting you current Windows down.

Which is what we've been saying.


Guess I've been doing the windows installs incorrectly all these years
as I've always just booted from either the install diskettes or CDs;
never even entered my mind to boot the installed OS prior to installing
the new OS version. The CDs is a bootable CD & now, the USB flashdrive
is also a bootable device. Why waste time to boot into the installed
OS before installing the new version, especially with the "upgrade"
bootable media? Then most likely, I didn't read the instructions that
was never supplied?

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:48:51 -0700, "XS11E"
wrote in article
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It's the next screen that pops up after you tell it NOT to do an
upgrade.

Bad news old chum, Windows 7 doesn't do that.

I'm pretty sure it does, I upgraded Vista Ultimate 64 to Win7 Ultimate
64 and got the message to reboot onto the CD when I clicked on custom
install or some such?

I saw the same message again upgrading from Win7 to Win8, that was only
a few weeks back....


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On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:04:37 -0700, "XS11E"
wrote in article ...

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:48:51 -0700, "XS11E"
wrote in article
...

It's the next screen that pops up after you tell it NOT to do an
upgrade.

Bad news old chum, Windows 7 doesn't do that.

I'm pretty sure it does, I upgraded Vista Ultimate 64 to Win7 Ultimate
64 and got the message to reboot onto the CD when I clicked on custom
install or some such?

I saw the same message again upgrading from Win7 to Win8, that was only
a few weeks back....

I suppose it is possible that different install media handles it
differently, but in my testing this morning with 32-bit install media
on an existing 32-bit Windows, it did not work that way.

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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:17:36 -0700, XS11E wrote:

Is that so, Gene? I've done it dozens of times and I know you are
wrong.

Sorry, he's right, you're wrong.

Thanks.

Also, since all I know personally is that I have experienced the labile
drive letters, your description (that I clipped for brevity) helps me to
understand it better.

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:47:05 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:34:24 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

Careful son! You got it all wrong! Microsoft tells you to install the
other Windows while the first one is still running. And if you do it
this way, there is no way the second Windows can be on Drive C if the
first one is on drive C.

Au contraire; AFAIK, Windows can assign drive letters differently under
each boot.

I've had fun reading the huge subthread that started here.

Forgive me, you-all, for I knew not what I did :-)

OTOH, I now think there are at least two sides to the question.

I'll have to see what happens when I (eventually) install the
promotional W8 on my cheap computer :-)

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