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  #16  
Old December 17th 12, 07:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:06:09 -0500, "..winston"
wrote in article ...

"Rob" wrote in message ...


Actually once an update is released then it goes to YOUR server, or one
higher, and most likely cached on you server, and its not necessary to
access MS server for the update.


That's not how it works.
No matter how Windows Update/Microsoft Update is
configured (auto, manual) WU/MU always 'phones home and checks
the MSFT server' to verify the current update is the latest available
version (in the event a revision was released).
All updates are deployed from the MSFT server - the only local storage
is when WU/MU is configured to automatically download and install
or download but let me choose when to install...even then as noted
WU/MU will continue to communicate with the MSFT server and verify
the download is the current version prior to installation. If WU/MU is
set to Notify (let me choose when to download and install) then
Windows will once again the user chooses to install communicate
with the MSFT server, download current available versions and
then install.


Unless of course you are using WSUS which acts rather more like Rob
posted. Different kettle of fish from what normal home users
encounter, but quite a lot of businesses (and probably some geek-run
home networks) have a Windows Server set up to handle updates that way.

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  #17  
Old December 17th 12, 08:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
..winston
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"Zaphod Beeblebrox" wrote in message ...


Unless of course you are using WSUS which acts rather more like Rob
posted. Different kettle of fish from what normal home users
encounter, but quite a lot of businesses (and probably some geek-run
home networks) have a Windows Server set up to handle updates that way.


Possible, but when was the last time someone using WSUS posted in this forum asking questions about WU. I suspect, until clarified
otherwise...the op is not using WSUS.

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  #18  
Old December 18th 12, 07:20 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
charlie[_2_]
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On 12/17/2012 3:55 PM, ..winston wrote:
"Zaphod Beeblebrox" wrote in message
...


Unless of course you are using WSUS which acts rather more like Rob
posted. Different kettle of fish from what normal home users
encounter, but quite a lot of businesses (and probably some geek-run
home networks) have a Windows Server set up to handle updates that way.


Possible, but when was the last time someone using WSUS posted in this
forum asking questions about WU. I suspect, until clarified
otherwise...the op is not using WSUS.

There is one other little thing.
Microsoft sometimes delays updates using some criteria.
This seems to be dependent on possibly a particular PC, perhaps by
windows key, windows version, location, etc. as possibilities.
I haven't had this happen recently, but certainly did see it with Vista
when it was new, and to some extent, Win 7 after it was released.

I think the usual cause for a slow update download is an overloaded
server, etc.


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Old December 18th 12, 12:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:55:17 -0500, "..winston"
wrote in article ...

"Zaphod Beeblebrox" wrote in message
...


Unless of course you are using WSUS which acts rather more like Rob
posted. Different kettle of fish from what normal home users
encounter, but quite a lot of businesses (and probably some geek-run
home networks) have a Windows Server set up to handle updates that
way.


Possible, but when was the last time someone using WSUS posted in
this forum asking questions about WU. I suspect, until clarified
otherwise...the op is not using WSUS.


Agreed, quite unlikely (but possible) that the OP's experience comes
from that environment.

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  #20  
Old December 18th 12, 10:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Rob
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On 18/12/2012 4:36 AM, Alias wrote:
On 12/17/2012 6:44 AM, Rob wrote:
On 17/12/2012 11:22 AM, Alias wrote:
On 12/16/2012 7:00 PM, BillW50 wrote:
On 12/16/2012 11:46 AM, Alias wrote:
On 12/16/2012 6:08 PM, BillW50 wrote:
On 12/16/2012 10:55 AM, C@limero wrote:
When I try to update Windows 8, it takes ages to download the
updates
no matter how much or big they are. What could be going wrong?

The best time to download Windows updates is real early in the
morning
when most people are still asleep. If you try while everybody is up
and
also updating their Windows, it overwhelms the Microsoft servers and
downloads are very much slower.

Um, Microsoft delivers updates to the entire world so your theory,
once
again, is bogus.

Not for those in America.

Yes, it is.

This is when the servers are hit the hardest.

When would that be?

So if you live on the other side of the world,

Actually, I don't. China is on the other side of the world from you.

the best time is during
the day for you.

Anytime works great for me.

Giveawayoftheday servers have the same problem. While
people all over the world download software from there, it always slows
down when the Americas wake up.


I usually get me updates minutes after they're released (while ALL of
American is awake) and have *never* had a download problem. So, once
again, you're full of ****.



Actually once an update is released then it goes to YOUR server, or one
higher, and most likely cached on you server, and its not necessary to
access MS server for the update.


I don't have a server. I have downloaded them at all times of the day
and never had a problem since 96. Using your logic, the OP shouldn't
have a problem either, being as it's on his server.



Try again your ISP's server.
  #21  
Old December 19th 12, 12:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Alias[_43_]
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On 12/18/2012 11:54 PM, Rob wrote:
On 18/12/2012 4:36 AM, Alias wrote:
On 12/17/2012 6:44 AM, Rob wrote:
On 17/12/2012 11:22 AM, Alias wrote:
On 12/16/2012 7:00 PM, BillW50 wrote:
On 12/16/2012 11:46 AM, Alias wrote:
On 12/16/2012 6:08 PM, BillW50 wrote:
On 12/16/2012 10:55 AM, C@limero wrote:
When I try to update Windows 8, it takes ages to download the
updates
no matter how much or big they are. What could be going wrong?

The best time to download Windows updates is real early in the
morning
when most people are still asleep. If you try while everybody is up
and
also updating their Windows, it overwhelms the Microsoft servers and
downloads are very much slower.

Um, Microsoft delivers updates to the entire world so your theory,
once
again, is bogus.

Not for those in America.

Yes, it is.

This is when the servers are hit the hardest.

When would that be?

So if you live on the other side of the world,

Actually, I don't. China is on the other side of the world from you.

the best time is during
the day for you.

Anytime works great for me.

Giveawayoftheday servers have the same problem. While
people all over the world download software from there, it always
slows
down when the Americas wake up.


I usually get me updates minutes after they're released (while ALL of
American is awake) and have *never* had a download problem. So, once
again, you're full of ****.



Actually once an update is released then it goes to YOUR server, or one
higher, and most likely cached on you server, and its not necessary to
access MS server for the update.


I don't have a server. I have downloaded them at all times of the day
and never had a problem since 96. Using your logic, the OP shouldn't
have a problem either, being as it's on his server.



Try again your ISP's server.


And the OP's server is in Belgium. Oops.

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  #22  
Old December 19th 12, 01:21 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
..winston
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"Rob" wrote in message ...

Try again your ISP's server.


No, it is not.

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  #23  
Old December 19th 12, 11:12 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Rob
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On 19/12/2012 12:21 PM, ..winston wrote:

"Rob" wrote in message ...

Try again your ISP's server.


No, it is not.



Not what?
 




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