Windows 8 Recovery From Image Fails

I am trying the Windows 8 recovery process, from a system image'. I
can't get it to work - for me anyway. Looking for someone to suggest
what I am missing. I have googled the subject to no avail.

I will try to correctly describe my setup:

The Windows 8 machine is named 'ONE'. I created the image on a second
internal hard drive on a second, networked machine (machine name
'TWO'), booted XP SP3. That machine belongs to the same workgroup,
has file sharing established, and file sharing works just fine between
the new W8 machine and both hard drives on the XP machine. Both
machines are booted to a password-protected user with administrator
privileges. Windows firewalls are disabled on both machines.

On the XP machine (machine name 'TWO') , the booted hard drive is
labeled SATA-1, with the share name 'aaaaa'. The second hard drive
(holding the W8 image hopefully) is labeled SATA-2, with the share
name 'bbbbb'.

Machine name 'TWO' second hard drive now houses the following
(which looks reasonable):

/ONE
/WindowsImageBackup
/ONE
/Backup 2013-01-05 185534 (when I created the image)
11 small .xml files
2 .vhdx files (one some 100 GB (about right)
/Catalog
GlobalCatalog
BackupGlobalCatalog
/SPPMetadataCache
2 small files with long hexadecimal filenames



I tried to restore from the image, specifying that the image was on my
network - on machine name 'TWO', on disk bbbbb. It accepted my names,
but did nothing. Ignored my entry.

So here I sit, wondering what to do?

Anyone?

The Apeman

Microsoft couldn't utilize itself out of a wet paper bag.

Use Macrium Reflect.

What software and in which o/s did you use to create the image


--
....winston
msft mvp


"Ape" wrote in message news
I am trying the Windows 8 recovery process, from a system image'. I
can't get it to work - for me anyway. Looking for someone to suggest
what I am missing. I have googled the subject to no avail.

I will try to correctly describe my setup:

The Windows 8 machine is named 'ONE'. I created the image on a second
internal hard drive on a second, networked machine (machine name
'TWO'), booted XP SP3. That machine belongs to the same workgroup,
has file sharing established, and file sharing works just fine between
the new W8 machine and both hard drives on the XP machine. Both
machines are booted to a password-protected user with administrator
privileges. Windows firewalls are disabled on both machines.

On the XP machine (machine name 'TWO') , the booted hard drive is
labeled SATA-1, with the share name 'aaaaa'. The second hard drive
(holding the W8 image hopefully) is labeled SATA-2, with the share
name 'bbbbb'.

Machine name 'TWO' second hard drive now houses the following
(which looks reasonable):

/ONE
/WindowsImageBackup
/ONE
/Backup 2013-01-05 185534 (when I created the image)
11 small .xml files
2 .vhdx files (one some 100 GB (about right)
/Catalog
GlobalCatalog
BackupGlobalCatalog
/SPPMetadataCache
2 small files with long hexadecimal filenames



I tried to restore from the image, specifying that the image was on my
network - on machine name 'TWO', on disk bbbbb. It accepted my names,
but did nothing. Ignored my entry.

So here I sit, wondering what to do?

Anyone?

The Apeman

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:58:24 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

Microsoft couldn't utilize itself out of a wet paper bag.

Use Macrium Reflect.


Downloaded the free version, and am creating a backup image as we
speak. Then I will try a restore.

Let ya know.

Thanks

Apeman

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:40:21 -0500, Ape wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:58:24 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

Microsoft couldn't utilize itself out of a wet paper bag.

Use Macrium Reflect.


Downloaded the free version, and am creating a backup image as we
speak. Then I will try a restore.

Let ya know.

Thanks

Apeman

Still creating the image file -
'twould appear that I have to create my own 'rescue CD' to restore W8
from a image file created by Reflect. Right? How would you suggest
that I do that - and get a CD that will access the image over my LAN?

The Apeman

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:20:23 -0500, Ape wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:40:21 -0500, Ape wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:58:24 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

Microsoft couldn't utilize itself out of a wet paper bag.

Use Macrium Reflect.


Downloaded the free version, and am creating a backup image as we
speak. Then I will try a restore.

Let ya know.

Thanks

Apeman

Still creating the image file -
'twould appear that I have to create my own 'rescue CD' to restore W8
from a image file created by Reflect. Right? How would you suggest
that I do that - and get a CD that will access the image over my LAN?

The Apeman

Macrium has a menu item to create the rescue CD. I don't know whether
the CD works with an image on the network.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 15:56:11 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:


Macrium has a menu item to create the rescue CD. I don't know whether
the CD works with an image on the network.

Thanks for response.

So far I do not see that it does. Now that I have a Macrium backup
image on another machine on my LAN, I need to check that out
tomorrow. If it does not, then I don't see that Macrium is useful
where it should be. Unless there is another way to make a rescue CD
that is. Why wouldn't they think of that?

Apeman

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 19:17:11 -0500, Ape wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 15:56:11 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:


Macrium has a menu item to create the rescue CD. I don't know whether
the CD works with an image on the network.

Thanks for response.

So far I do not see that it does. Now that I have a Macrium backup
image on another machine on my LAN, I need to check that out
tomorrow. If it does not, then I don't see that Macrium is useful
where it should be. Unless there is another way to make a rescue CD
that is. Why wouldn't they think of that?

Apeman

I did a quick look. Seems to me that there is no recovery CD
technique established for Windows 8. That leaves me with MS's
built-in recovery CD technique, which failed for me - it would not do
the recovery. Life should not be this hard.

Apeman

Ape Tarzan Plaanet.Edu wrote:

Seems to me that Macrium Reflect has no recovery CD technique
established for Windows 8.

Huh? Works fine here.

If you pay for it, apparently there is no need to use the CD for a
restore. That might also give a LAN option, you can research it.
Using the CD for a restore is no big deal here, because restores
happen much less frequently than backups. I have no experience
with using it on a LAN.

Ape wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 19:17:11 -0500, Ape wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 15:56:11 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

Macrium has a menu item to create the rescue CD. I don't know whether
the CD works with an image on the network.
Thanks for response.

So far I do not see that it does. Now that I have a Macrium backup
image on another machine on my LAN, I need to check that out
tomorrow. If it does not, then I don't see that Macrium is useful
where it should be. Unless there is another way to make a rescue CD
that is. Why wouldn't they think of that?

Apeman

I did a quick look. Seems to me that there is no recovery CD
technique established for Windows 8. That leaves me with MS's
built-in recovery CD technique, which failed for me - it would not do
the recovery. Life should not be this hard.

Apeman

The Macrium download, a portion of it is a dedicated Linux CD.
There is no Linux desktop. It boots right into a Macrium screen.
You don't need to know anything about Linux, because you're
not given access to anything Linux related. It's invisible,
like an "appliance".

If you use the second Macrium option, it includes doing a 1GB
download from the Microsoft site, to get WAIK kit, and building
some kind of WinPE boot disc. That is for supporting things
like some flavor of RAID.

When I tested Macrium, I just used the Linux CD thing, which
worked fine.

I did screen captures while testing Macrium, and this was
done using the Linux recovery CD and no WAIK stuff. Looks good
to me. The captures are possible, because all of the
testing was done in a VM (virtual machine) environment.
The Windows 7 black background, is because the
OS is "not genuine" (I installed the preview for this
experiment).

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/451...iumrestore.gif

Paul

Paul nospam needed.com wrote:

The Macrium download, a portion of it is a dedicated Linux CD.
There is no Linux desktop. It boots right into a Macrium screen.
You don't need to know anything about Linux, because you're
not given access to anything Linux related. It's invisible,
like an "appliance".

If you use the second Macrium option, it includes doing a 1GB
download from the Microsoft site, to get WAIK kit, and building
some kind of WinPE boot disc. That is for supporting things
like some flavor of RAID.

When I tested Macrium, I just used the Linux CD thing, which
worked fine.

I did screen captures while testing Macrium, and this was
done using the Linux recovery CD and no WAIK stuff. Looks good
to me. The captures are possible, because all of the
testing was done in a VM (virtual machine) environment.
The Windows 7 black background, is because the
OS is "not genuine" (I installed the preview for this
experiment).

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/451...iumrestore.gif

I have been doing the windows backup thing forever. Macrium Reflect
is the easiest so far, I think. The restore from the CD goes like
this...

Insert CD, restart

Press enter, then browse to the backup folder

Select the backup with the biggest date number (it doesn't arrange
by date)

Click Next several times to get the restore process started

Remove the CD, then (when the restore is finished) press enter to
reboot

As you can see, there's no thinking involved. It's as easy as
selecting the backup you want to restore, as if you were navigating
in windows explorer. The windows backup process is about as easy,
except you might want to make a name a folder appropriately for the
current backup. I usually label the folders with my current computer
activity, like...

8 0 hardware & configuration

8 1 speech

8 2 games

....

Most people can make dozens of backups without straining current
technology massive hard drives. I keep a to-do file in each of those
folders, as a reminder for the most recent backup in the most recent
folder. There are lots of times to make a backup, but one of the
best times is immediately before you know an upcoming installation
might be problematic. Life can be so easy...

By the way… Next time, check out the browse feature. Just right
click on one of your backups and select Explore. It provides read-
only access to your backup copies.

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 20:53:46 -0500, Paul wrote:


The Macrium download, a portion of it is a dedicated Linux CD.
There is no Linux desktop. It boots right into a Macrium screen.
You don't need to know anything about Linux, because you're
not given access to anything Linux related. It's invisible,
like an "appliance".

If you use the second Macrium option, it includes doing a 1GB
download from the Microsoft site, to get WAIK kit, and building
some kind of WinPE boot disc. That is for supporting things
like some flavor of RAID.

When I tested Macrium, I just used the Linux CD thing, which
worked fine.

I did screen captures while testing Macrium, and this was
done using the Linux recovery CD and no WAIK stuff. Looks good
to me. The captures are possible, because all of the
testing was done in a VM (virtual machine) environment.
The Windows 7 black background, is because the
OS is "not genuine" (I installed the preview for this
experiment).

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/451...iumrestore.gif

Paul


Hi Paul

You know who this is - and again I thank U.

I made a Linux recovery CD and booted it just fine.
I used it to access my network-stored windows8 image (from Macrium
earlier) on another machine (XP), and it found the image just fine.
Now I will try a full recovery to see how that goes.

Life is good.

Thanks for taking the time to make the screen images. You're a good
man.

The Apeman
(Wei)

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:45:54 -0500, Ape wrote:


I made a Linux recovery CD and booted it just fine.
I used it to access my network-stored windows8 image (from Macrium
earlier) on another machine (XP), and it found the image just fine.
Now I will try a full recovery to see how that goes.

Life is good.

Thanks for taking the time to make the screen images. You're a good
man.

The Apeman
(Wei)


Well it went just fine - took some 6 hours to recreate the 300GB drive
from the image, including verify which took a couple house of the 6.
Re-boot of the recovered W8 seems okay.
Thanks again.
Happy Apeman