A nice article on Cortana

T wrote:

A nice article on M$'s Siri:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...na-windows-10/

Me personally, I just want a desktop. I will be turning
the sucker off. Rumor has it with a local account only,
it won't work anyway. :-)

My first thought is how a quiet workplace would become a din of noise
from boobs that cannot type as fast or even half as fast as they can
speak. Instead of just hearing the clattering of keyboards in the
office, you'll hear a bunch of users yelling at Cortana because
sensitivity has to be set so low as to prevent Cortana from obeying the
commands of the employee in the next cubicle. Think of the office noise
now. Then consider the noise at a party with the same number of
participants.

I can just picture the increased sales of noise-cancelling headsets. Or
the added expense of companies provided full-walled or wall+glass
cubicles for each employee, much like when the vinyl record stores had
booths for potential buyers to listen to music without disturibing the
other patrons.

T wrote:

A nice article on M$'s Siri:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...na-windows-10/

Me personally, I just want a desktop. I will be turning
the sucker off. Rumor has it with a local account only,
it won't work anyway. :-)

My first thought is how a quiet workplace would become a din of noise
from boobs that cannot type as fast or even half as fast as they can
speak. Instead of just hearing the clattering of keyboards in the
office, you'll hear a bunch of users yelling at Cortana because
sensitivity has to be set so low as to prevent Cortana from obeying the
commands of the employee in the next cubicle. Think of the office noise
now. Then consider the noise at a party with the same number of
participants.

I can just picture the increased sales of noise-cancelling headsets. Or
the added expense of companies provided full-walled or wall+glass
cubicles for each employee, much like when the vinyl record stores had
booths for potential buyers to listen to music without disturibing the
other patrons.

On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 23:14:30 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

I fear that a lot of this play toy stuff M$ is throwing
in will be endless hour of us trying to fight through them
trying to get them to work. I could be wrong.

In my case it'll be endless hours fighting through all the gimmicks
trying to get them not to work. As you suggest, the greatest need is
for a reliable, simple to use operating system that just enables us to
get stuff done, and which will be supported for as long as possible.
Everything else is ornament.

Rod.

ABSOLUTELY !

a reliable OS that works without fluff! and I,m happy..

Fluff to one person is gotta have it to the next person.

I've always thought the "gotta have it" people are the ones I
sometimes see queueing outside Apple shops.

Rod.

On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 23:14:30 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

I fear that a lot of this play toy stuff M$ is throwing
in will be endless hour of us trying to fight through them
trying to get them to work. I could be wrong.

In my case it'll be endless hours fighting through all the gimmicks
trying to get them not to work. As you suggest, the greatest need is
for a reliable, simple to use operating system that just enables us to
get stuff done, and which will be supported for as long as possible.
Everything else is ornament.

Rod.

ABSOLUTELY !

a reliable OS that works without fluff! and I,m happy..

Fluff to one person is gotta have it to the next person.

I've always thought the "gotta have it" people are the ones I
sometimes see queueing outside Apple shops.

Rod.

Char Jackson wrote on 1/28/2015 3:54 PM:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:23:21 -0800, T wrote:

Hi All,

A nice article on M$'s Siri:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...na-windows-10/

Me personally, I just want a desktop. I will be turning
the sucker off. Rumor has it with a local account only,
it won't work anyway. :-)

I use the heck out of the Siri equivalent on my Samsung Galaxy SIII, but I
don't think I'd use it on a laptop/desktop type of computer.

It's extremely handy when traveling. Without entering any info, I can ask
about my flight status (current or connecting), where's my hotel, where do
the locals eat, and so on. As you might be thinking, the first two (flights,
hotels, even rental cars) are examples of things that get answered by
snooping through my emails.

I agree, on a phone it's okay. My daughter has an iphone (6?) and she uses it some and it's okay. I say okay cause
she like others had the thumb typing down slick before speech rec. became good. With the suggested word help in the
typing she can pretty much type faster on the phone than I can on a PC keyboard, and I type quite fast.

Char Jackson wrote on 1/28/2015 3:54 PM:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:23:21 -0800, T wrote:

Hi All,

A nice article on M$'s Siri:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...na-windows-10/

Me personally, I just want a desktop. I will be turning
the sucker off. Rumor has it with a local account only,
it won't work anyway. :-)

I use the heck out of the Siri equivalent on my Samsung Galaxy SIII, but I
don't think I'd use it on a laptop/desktop type of computer.

It's extremely handy when traveling. Without entering any info, I can ask
about my flight status (current or connecting), where's my hotel, where do
the locals eat, and so on. As you might be thinking, the first two (flights,
hotels, even rental cars) are examples of things that get answered by
snooping through my emails.

I agree, on a phone it's okay. My daughter has an iphone (6?) and she uses it some and it's okay. I say okay cause
she like others had the thumb typing down slick before speech rec. became good. With the suggested word help in the
typing she can pretty much type faster on the phone than I can on a PC keyboard, and I type quite fast.

VanguardLH wrote on 1/29/2015 1:23 AM:
T wrote:

A nice article on M$'s Siri:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...na-windows-10/

Me personally, I just want a desktop. I will be turning
the sucker off. Rumor has it with a local account only,
it won't work anyway. :-)

My first thought is how a quiet workplace would become a din of noise
from boobs that cannot type as fast or even half as fast as they can
speak. Instead of just hearing the clattering of keyboards in the
office, you'll hear a bunch of users yelling at Cortana because
sensitivity has to be set so low as to prevent Cortana from obeying the
commands of the employee in the next cubicle. Think of the office noise
now. Then consider the noise at a party with the same number of
participants.

I can just picture the increased sales of noise-cancelling headsets. Or
the added expense of companies provided full-walled or wall+glass
cubicles for each employee, much like when the vinyl record stores had
booths for potential buyers to listen to music without disturibing the
other patrons.

That reminds me I saw an article not too long ago that the author was seeing a trend in work spaces moving to open space
design and these 1/2 or 3/4 height walled cubicles. Never thought about the effect of voice rec software. That's
comical when you think about it. :-)

VanguardLH wrote on 1/29/2015 1:23 AM:
T wrote:

A nice article on M$'s Siri:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...na-windows-10/

Me personally, I just want a desktop. I will be turning
the sucker off. Rumor has it with a local account only,
it won't work anyway. :-)

My first thought is how a quiet workplace would become a din of noise
from boobs that cannot type as fast or even half as fast as they can
speak. Instead of just hearing the clattering of keyboards in the
office, you'll hear a bunch of users yelling at Cortana because
sensitivity has to be set so low as to prevent Cortana from obeying the
commands of the employee in the next cubicle. Think of the office noise
now. Then consider the noise at a party with the same number of
participants.

I can just picture the increased sales of noise-cancelling headsets. Or
the added expense of companies provided full-walled or wall+glass
cubicles for each employee, much like when the vinyl record stores had
booths for potential buyers to listen to music without disturibing the
other patrons.

That reminds me I saw an article not too long ago that the author was seeing a trend in work spaces moving to open space
design and these 1/2 or 3/4 height walled cubicles. Never thought about the effect of voice rec software. That's
comical when you think about it. :-)

On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 00:23:59 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

T wrote:

A nice article on M$'s Siri:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...na-windows-10/

Me personally, I just want a desktop. I will be turning
the sucker off. Rumor has it with a local account only,
it won't work anyway. :-)

My first thought is how a quiet workplace would become a din of noise
from boobs that cannot type as fast or even half as fast as they can
speak. Instead of just hearing the clattering of keyboards in the
office, you'll hear a bunch of users yelling at Cortana because
sensitivity has to be set so low as to prevent Cortana from obeying the
commands of the employee in the next cubicle. Think of the office noise
now. Then consider the noise at a party with the same number of
participants.

If you've ever used Siri or Galaxy, and I'm sure Cortana will be the same
way, then you know that it isn't like that at all. I don't think humans are
physically capable of commanding these devices from a cube away. Try it
sometime. If you want to make the workplace quieter, remove the phones. By
that, I mean all phones, as in work phones and personal phones. Also, ban
people from talking directly to each other except in designated areas. I'm
being ridiculous, of course, but so were you.

Alternatively, just visit a modern workplace and see for yourself that your
concerns are almost completely unfounded. I'm guessing you normally work
from home.

On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 00:23:59 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

T wrote:

A nice article on M$'s Siri:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...na-windows-10/

Me personally, I just want a desktop. I will be turning
the sucker off. Rumor has it with a local account only,
it won't work anyway. :-)

My first thought is how a quiet workplace would become a din of noise
from boobs that cannot type as fast or even half as fast as they can
speak. Instead of just hearing the clattering of keyboards in the
office, you'll hear a bunch of users yelling at Cortana because
sensitivity has to be set so low as to prevent Cortana from obeying the
commands of the employee in the next cubicle. Think of the office noise
now. Then consider the noise at a party with the same number of
participants.

If you've ever used Siri or Galaxy, and I'm sure Cortana will be the same
way, then you know that it isn't like that at all. I don't think humans are
physically capable of commanding these devices from a cube away. Try it
sometime. If you want to make the workplace quieter, remove the phones. By
that, I mean all phones, as in work phones and personal phones. Also, ban
people from talking directly to each other except in designated areas. I'm
being ridiculous, of course, but so were you.

Alternatively, just visit a modern workplace and see for yourself that your
concerns are almost completely unfounded. I'm guessing you normally work
from home.

On 01/28/2015 03:36 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:19:21 -0800, T wrote:

I fear that a lot of this play toy stuff M$ is throwing
in will be endless hour of us trying to fight through them
trying to get them to work. I could be wrong.

In my case it'll be endless hours fighting through all the gimmicks
trying to get them not to work. As you suggest, the greatest need is
for a reliable, simple to use operating system that just enables us to
get stuff done, and which will be supported for as long as possible.
Everything else is ornament.

Rod.


well said

On 01/28/2015 03:36 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:19:21 -0800, T wrote:

I fear that a lot of this play toy stuff M$ is throwing
in will be endless hour of us trying to fight through them
trying to get them to work. I could be wrong.

In my case it'll be endless hours fighting through all the gimmicks
trying to get them not to work. As you suggest, the greatest need is
for a reliable, simple to use operating system that just enables us to
get stuff done, and which will be supported for as long as possible.
Everything else is ornament.

Rod.


well said

On 01/29/2015 06:45 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 00:23:59 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

T wrote:

A nice article on M$'s Siri:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...na-windows-10/

Me personally, I just want a desktop. I will be turning
the sucker off. Rumor has it with a local account only,
it won't work anyway. :-)

My first thought is how a quiet workplace would become a din of noise
from boobs that cannot type as fast or even half as fast as they can
speak. Instead of just hearing the clattering of keyboards in the
office, you'll hear a bunch of users yelling at Cortana because
sensitivity has to be set so low as to prevent Cortana from obeying the
commands of the employee in the next cubicle. Think of the office noise
now. Then consider the noise at a party with the same number of
participants.

If you've ever used Siri or Galaxy, and I'm sure Cortana will be the same
way, then you know that it isn't like that at all. I don't think humans are
physically capable of commanding these devices from a cube away. Try it
sometime. If you want to make the workplace quieter, remove the phones. By
that, I mean all phones, as in work phones and personal phones. Also, ban
people from talking directly to each other except in designated areas. I'm
being ridiculous, of course, but so were you.

Alternatively, just visit a modern workplace and see for yourself that your
concerns are almost completely unfounded. I'm guessing you normally work
from home.



I am thinking "Ask Toolbar" on steroids

On 01/29/2015 06:45 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 00:23:59 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

T wrote:

A nice article on M$'s Siri:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...na-windows-10/

Me personally, I just want a desktop. I will be turning
the sucker off. Rumor has it with a local account only,
it won't work anyway. :-)

My first thought is how a quiet workplace would become a din of noise
from boobs that cannot type as fast or even half as fast as they can
speak. Instead of just hearing the clattering of keyboards in the
office, you'll hear a bunch of users yelling at Cortana because
sensitivity has to be set so low as to prevent Cortana from obeying the
commands of the employee in the next cubicle. Think of the office noise
now. Then consider the noise at a party with the same number of
participants.

If you've ever used Siri or Galaxy, and I'm sure Cortana will be the same
way, then you know that it isn't like that at all. I don't think humans are
physically capable of commanding these devices from a cube away. Try it
sometime. If you want to make the workplace quieter, remove the phones. By
that, I mean all phones, as in work phones and personal phones. Also, ban
people from talking directly to each other except in designated areas. I'm
being ridiculous, of course, but so were you.

Alternatively, just visit a modern workplace and see for yourself that your
concerns are almost completely unfounded. I'm guessing you normally work
from home.



I am thinking "Ask Toolbar" on steroids

Char Jackson wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 00:23:59 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

T wrote:

A nice article on M$'s Siri:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...na-windows-10/

Me personally, I just want a desktop. I will be turning
the sucker off. Rumor has it with a local account only,
it won't work anyway. :-)

My first thought is how a quiet workplace would become a din of noise
from boobs that cannot type as fast or even half as fast as they can
speak. Instead of just hearing the clattering of keyboards in the
office, you'll hear a bunch of users yelling at Cortana because
sensitivity has to be set so low as to prevent Cortana from obeying the
commands of the employee in the next cubicle. Think of the office noise
now. Then consider the noise at a party with the same number of
participants.

If you've ever used Siri or Galaxy, and I'm sure Cortana will be the same
way, then you know that it isn't like that at all. I don't think humans are
physically capable of commanding these devices from a cube away. Try it
sometime. If you want to make the workplace quieter, remove the phones. By
that, I mean all phones, as in work phones and personal phones. Also, ban
people from talking directly to each other except in designated areas. I'm
being ridiculous, of course, but so were you.

Alternatively, just visit a modern workplace and see for yourself that your
concerns are almost completely unfounded. I'm guessing you normally work
from home.

I work and have worked at software development houses. We code all day,
we QA all day, and we're using our workstations all day. Many companies
even pipe in white or pink noise to increase the background noise in the
workplace to drown out the noise from people talking or keyboard
clattering. Of course, in the alpha lab there's no need for white noise
since all the fans in the computers are pretty loud.

We have cubicles setup for 1 person but some are setup for 4 people.
Generally it's a pretty quick place to work with the occasional call out
across the cubicles. Don't get many phone calls at work. Internal
e-mail or messaging handles that and I don't work in Sales but in QA.
The sales folks get their own closed cubicles or offices because of the
noise of phone calls.

So now imagine all employees having to use Cortana. For the same reason
that sales folks have to be secluded is the same reason you would need
to enclose every Cortana user.

You might be used to everyone yakking away in their cubicles all day
long. I don't know your work environment. In our area, it's quiet. In
the tech support area, it's definitely noisier. In the sales area, they
get walls to silence their noise. With the addition of Cortana and with
the existing workplace setups, it will get noisier. Even if there's no
loud speaking, you'll have the din of murmuring wafting everywhere.

Just look at what happened when grocery shopping. Used to be you went
to the store, hunted around for your purchases, and the noisest place
was at the cash register. Now there are shoppers with cell phones
against their heads or hooked onto their ears yakking away in the
grocery store (and everywhere else). While standing in line to
checkout, you hear them wasting minutes on the most worthless prattle.
Standing at the bus stop, walking the street, in the movies (without
cell phone killers), in the stores and malls, and everywhere there's now
more noise from cell phone junkies just yakking away.

Twas bad enough with all the cell phones used at work. Now we get
voice-actuated computers to add to the din. Not everyone at work is
using their cell phone every minute of the day; however, the Cortana
users will be prattling all day long. Because of the din caused by
constant voice recognition software, I'm sure companies will either
delete Cortana from their sysprep installs on their workstations or have
to redesign their workplaces to isolate the din.