Liking it?

I have to confess I am beginning to like windows 10, although it still has
some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better than
windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?

Robert Brereton wrote:
I have to confess I am beginning to like windows 10, although it still
has some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better
than windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?
Well windows 8 was a mess until I bought start 8 and made it like win7
with a normal start menu.I boot it into the desk top and finally made it
usable.
Well windows 10 right now is more windows 8 than 10 with what they call
a start menu.I ran start8 with win10 and it improves it to make it
usable.They are going to have tiles weather we like it or not.I have
sent feed back about wanting a start menu like win7,but I think it is
not going to happen.I will not say I will never upgrade to win10 but
right now win 7 is a lot better than 8 or 10.All I want is a text only
start menu with no tiles that are useless on a PC.I use apps on my
smartphone and I will not use them on my Desktop OS.
I have used Linux for a long time and win 10 is going to push PC users
to it,especially if they go to subscription model.

Robert Brereton wrote:
I have to confess I am beginning to like windows 10, although it still
has some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better
than windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?
Well windows 8 was a mess until I bought start 8 and made it like win7
with a normal start menu.I boot it into the desk top and finally made it
usable.
Well windows 10 right now is more windows 8 than 10 with what they call
a start menu.I ran start8 with win10 and it improves it to make it
usable.They are going to have tiles weather we like it or not.I have
sent feed back about wanting a start menu like win7,but I think it is
not going to happen.I will not say I will never upgrade to win10 but
right now win 7 is a lot better than 8 or 10.All I want is a text only
start menu with no tiles that are useless on a PC.I use apps on my
smartphone and I will not use them on my Desktop OS.
I have used Linux for a long time and win 10 is going to push PC users
to it,especially if they go to subscription model.

Dino wrote on 2/12/2015 7:05 PM:
Robert Brereton wrote:
I have to confess I am beginning to like windows 10, although it still
has some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better
than windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?
Well windows 8 was a mess until I bought start 8 and made it like win7
with a normal start menu.I boot it into the desk top and finally made it
usable.
Well windows 10 right now is more windows 8 than 10 with what they call
a start menu.I ran start8 with win10 and it improves it to make it
usable.They are going to have tiles weather we like it or not.I have
sent feed back about wanting a start menu like win7,but I think it is
not going to happen.I will not say I will never upgrade to win10 but
right now win 7 is a lot better than 8 or 10.All I want is a text only
start menu with no tiles that are useless on a PC.I use apps on my
smartphone and I will not use them on my Desktop OS.
I have used Linux for a long time and win 10 is going to push PC users
to it,especially if they go to subscription model.


Totally agree.

And if I might add, any period at the end of a sentence should have 1 if not 2 spaces after it. Thanks, makes it more
readable.

I was taught (50+ yrs ago) in typing class to put 2 spaces, but saw posted on facebook by one of my younger teacher
friends that the current trend is only one. Thus why I say one, if not two.

Dino wrote on 2/12/2015 7:05 PM:
Robert Brereton wrote:
I have to confess I am beginning to like windows 10, although it still
has some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better
than windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?
Well windows 8 was a mess until I bought start 8 and made it like win7
with a normal start menu.I boot it into the desk top and finally made it
usable.
Well windows 10 right now is more windows 8 than 10 with what they call
a start menu.I ran start8 with win10 and it improves it to make it
usable.They are going to have tiles weather we like it or not.I have
sent feed back about wanting a start menu like win7,but I think it is
not going to happen.I will not say I will never upgrade to win10 but
right now win 7 is a lot better than 8 or 10.All I want is a text only
start menu with no tiles that are useless on a PC.I use apps on my
smartphone and I will not use them on my Desktop OS.
I have used Linux for a long time and win 10 is going to push PC users
to it,especially if they go to subscription model.


Totally agree.

And if I might add, any period at the end of a sentence should have 1 if not 2 spaces after it. Thanks, makes it more
readable.

I was taught (50+ yrs ago) in typing class to put 2 spaces, but saw posted on facebook by one of my younger teacher
friends that the current trend is only one. Thus why I say one, if not two.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 23:44:30 -0000, "Robert Brereton"
wrote:

some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better than
windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?

Yes, it's a lot better than Windows 8.

But then, look at Windows 8.....

Seriously, I'd advise anybody who has bought a new computer with
Windows 8 to take the free upgrade when it becomes available. I don't
know how much will have changed in the final version, but the preview
version looks quite promising. Not nearly promising enough to entice
me away from Windows 7, but for those who have to accept the latest
Microsoft system because it's on a new computer, 10 is probably going
to be a big improvement over 8.

My two biggest reservations can be put under the headings of "Tiles"
and "Online Accounts".

Tiles.
The start menu is back, but it's just a start menu with tiles, so no
real progress. You can make it fill the screen (just like Windows 8)
or you can make the tiles smaller, but you can't switch them off. When
you make the tiles smaller, the labels disappear, so you are then
faced with the task of identifying things from tiny little icons on
coloured backgrounds, and I'm not even sure if it's possible to choose
the colours. What is Microsoft's obsession with these wretched tiles?
Why can't we just have a menu in the form of a list with the labels in
Plain English? If they feel obliged to cater for those who don't know
the alphabet and can only read pictures, at least they should make the
tiles an option which is switched off by default. Perhaps it could be
one of the items in the "Accessibility" section.

Online Accounts
This is another thing that should be switched off by default, and only
enabled by those who want it. During installation of 8 or 10 there is
a prompt to create an online account for what appears to be some sort
of "cloud" service, and no indication that it is possible to bypass
it. Once you've installed it a few times you know that the trick is to
accept the prompt to create an account, but reject it on the *next*
page, but so-called "cloud computing" is not something that everybody
will want, so they should not be hoodwinked into accepting it.

Rod.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 23:44:30 -0000, "Robert Brereton"
wrote:

some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better than
windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?

Yes, it's a lot better than Windows 8.

But then, look at Windows 8.....

Seriously, I'd advise anybody who has bought a new computer with
Windows 8 to take the free upgrade when it becomes available. I don't
know how much will have changed in the final version, but the preview
version looks quite promising. Not nearly promising enough to entice
me away from Windows 7, but for those who have to accept the latest
Microsoft system because it's on a new computer, 10 is probably going
to be a big improvement over 8.

My two biggest reservations can be put under the headings of "Tiles"
and "Online Accounts".

Tiles.
The start menu is back, but it's just a start menu with tiles, so no
real progress. You can make it fill the screen (just like Windows 8)
or you can make the tiles smaller, but you can't switch them off. When
you make the tiles smaller, the labels disappear, so you are then
faced with the task of identifying things from tiny little icons on
coloured backgrounds, and I'm not even sure if it's possible to choose
the colours. What is Microsoft's obsession with these wretched tiles?
Why can't we just have a menu in the form of a list with the labels in
Plain English? If they feel obliged to cater for those who don't know
the alphabet and can only read pictures, at least they should make the
tiles an option which is switched off by default. Perhaps it could be
one of the items in the "Accessibility" section.

Online Accounts
This is another thing that should be switched off by default, and only
enabled by those who want it. During installation of 8 or 10 there is
a prompt to create an online account for what appears to be some sort
of "cloud" service, and no indication that it is possible to bypass
it. Once you've installed it a few times you know that the trick is to
accept the prompt to create an account, but reject it on the *next*
page, but so-called "cloud computing" is not something that everybody
will want, so they should not be hoodwinked into accepting it.

Rod.

On 13/02/2015 02:22:40, Big_Al wrote:
Dino wrote on 2/12/2015 7:05 PM:
Robert Brereton wrote:
I have to confess I am beginning to like windows 10, although it still
has some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better
than windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?
Well windows 8 was a mess until I bought start 8 and made it like win7
with a normal start menu.I boot it into the desk top and finally made it
usable.
Well windows 10 right now is more windows 8 than 10 with what they call
a start menu.I ran start8 with win10 and it improves it to make it
usable.They are going to have tiles weather we like it or not.I have
sent feed back about wanting a start menu like win7,but I think it is
not going to happen.I will not say I will never upgrade to win10 but
right now win 7 is a lot better than 8 or 10.All I want is a text only
start menu with no tiles that are useless on a PC.I use apps on my
smartphone and I will not use them on my Desktop OS.
I have used Linux for a long time and win 10 is going to push PC users
to it,especially if they go to subscription model.


Totally agree.

And if I might add, any period at the end of a sentence should have 1 if not
2 spaces after it. Thanks, makes it more readable.

I was taught (50+ yrs ago) in typing class to put 2 spaces, but saw posted on
facebook by one of my younger teacher friends that the current trend is only
one. Thus why I say one, if not two.

One space after a comma, like this. Two spaces after a full stop.
This makes far easier reading for those like me whose eyesight is not
what it used to be. :-(

--
mick

On 13/02/2015 02:22:40, Big_Al wrote:
Dino wrote on 2/12/2015 7:05 PM:
Robert Brereton wrote:
I have to confess I am beginning to like windows 10, although it still
has some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better
than windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?
Well windows 8 was a mess until I bought start 8 and made it like win7
with a normal start menu.I boot it into the desk top and finally made it
usable.
Well windows 10 right now is more windows 8 than 10 with what they call
a start menu.I ran start8 with win10 and it improves it to make it
usable.They are going to have tiles weather we like it or not.I have
sent feed back about wanting a start menu like win7,but I think it is
not going to happen.I will not say I will never upgrade to win10 but
right now win 7 is a lot better than 8 or 10.All I want is a text only
start menu with no tiles that are useless on a PC.I use apps on my
smartphone and I will not use them on my Desktop OS.
I have used Linux for a long time and win 10 is going to push PC users
to it,especially if they go to subscription model.


Totally agree.

And if I might add, any period at the end of a sentence should have 1 if not
2 spaces after it. Thanks, makes it more readable.

I was taught (50+ yrs ago) in typing class to put 2 spaces, but saw posted on
facebook by one of my younger teacher friends that the current trend is only
one. Thus why I say one, if not two.

One space after a comma, like this. Two spaces after a full stop.
This makes far easier reading for those like me whose eyesight is not
what it used to be. :-(

--
mick

In message , Dino
writes
Well windows 8 was a mess until I bought start 8 and made it like win7
with a normal start menu.I boot it into the desk top and finally made
it usable.

I'm still not sure why people use Start 8 and similar when you can get
the similar effect by creating a new toolbar on the taskbar and
directing it to
C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows and selecting Start Menu.

In W10, this makes you navigate through a Programs directory, which I
don't remember having to do in W8, but it seems to work well enough most
of the time and leaves all the other bits of 8 or 10 untouched. You get
a nice, concise textual menu of programs like in the good old days.

I haven't bothered trying, but working out how to change the two arrows
next to the words "Start Menu" into a button would probably be
worthwhile.
--
Bill

In message , Dino
writes
Well windows 8 was a mess until I bought start 8 and made it like win7
with a normal start menu.I boot it into the desk top and finally made
it usable.

I'm still not sure why people use Start 8 and similar when you can get
the similar effect by creating a new toolbar on the taskbar and
directing it to
C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows and selecting Start Menu.

In W10, this makes you navigate through a Programs directory, which I
don't remember having to do in W8, but it seems to work well enough most
of the time and leaves all the other bits of 8 or 10 untouched. You get
a nice, concise textual menu of programs like in the good old days.

I haven't bothered trying, but working out how to change the two arrows
next to the words "Start Menu" into a button would probably be
worthwhile.
--
Bill

On 13/02/2015 in message Bill wrote:

I'm still not sure why people use Start 8 and similar when you can get the
similar effect by creating a new toolbar on the taskbar and directing it to
C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows and selecting Start Menu.

Try:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

A very subtle difference :-)

--
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
I take full responsibility for what happened - that is why the person that
was responsible went immediately.
(Gordon Brown, April 2009)

On 13/02/2015 in message Bill wrote:

I'm still not sure why people use Start 8 and similar when you can get the
similar effect by creating a new toolbar on the taskbar and directing it to
C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows and selecting Start Menu.

Try:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

A very subtle difference :-)

--
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
I take full responsibility for what happened - that is why the person that
was responsible went immediately.
(Gordon Brown, April 2009)

"Dino" wrote in message
...
Robert Brereton wrote:
I have to confess I am beginning to like windows 10, although it still
has some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better
than windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?
Well windows 8 was a mess until I bought start 8 and made it like win7
with a normal start menu.I boot it into the desk top and finally made it
usable.
Well windows 10 right now is more windows 8 than 10 with what they call a
start menu.I ran start8 with win10 and it improves it to make it
usable.They are going to have tiles weather we like it or not.I have sent
feed back about wanting a start menu like win7,but I think it is not going
to happen.I will not say I will never upgrade to win10 but right now win 7
is a lot better than 8 or 10.All I want is a text only start menu with no
tiles that are useless on a PC.I use apps on my smartphone and I will not
use them on my Desktop OS.
I have used Linux for a long time and win 10 is going to push PC users to
it,especially if they go to subscription model.

The latest Beta version of Classic Shell (4.2.0) allows you to have a
classic, classic with two columns (the one I like), or Windows 7 style start
menus. No tiles, not even if you click on Apps, just icons.
--
SC Tom

"Dino" wrote in message
...
Robert Brereton wrote:
I have to confess I am beginning to like windows 10, although it still
has some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better
than windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?
Well windows 8 was a mess until I bought start 8 and made it like win7
with a normal start menu.I boot it into the desk top and finally made it
usable.
Well windows 10 right now is more windows 8 than 10 with what they call a
start menu.I ran start8 with win10 and it improves it to make it
usable.They are going to have tiles weather we like it or not.I have sent
feed back about wanting a start menu like win7,but I think it is not going
to happen.I will not say I will never upgrade to win10 but right now win 7
is a lot better than 8 or 10.All I want is a text only start menu with no
tiles that are useless on a PC.I use apps on my smartphone and I will not
use them on my Desktop OS.
I have used Linux for a long time and win 10 is going to push PC users to
it,especially if they go to subscription model.

The latest Beta version of Classic Shell (4.2.0) allows you to have a
classic, classic with two columns (the one I like), or Windows 7 style start
menus. No tiles, not even if you click on Apps, just icons.
--
SC Tom