Liking it?

mick wrote on 2/13/2015 6:52 AM:
On 13/02/2015 02:22:40, Big_Al wrote:
Dino wrote on 2/12/2015 7:05 PM:
Robert Brereton wrote:
I have to confess I am beginning to like windows 10, although it still
has some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better
than windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?
Well windows 8 was a mess until I bought start 8 and made it like win7
with a normal start menu.I boot it into the desk top and finally made it
usable.
Well windows 10 right now is more windows 8 than 10 with what they call
a start menu.I ran start8 with win10 and it improves it to make it
usable.They are going to have tiles weather we like it or not.I have
sent feed back about wanting a start menu like win7,but I think it is
not going to happen.I will not say I will never upgrade to win10 but
right now win 7 is a lot better than 8 or 10.All I want is a text only
start menu with no tiles that are useless on a PC.I use apps on my
smartphone and I will not use them on my Desktop OS.
I have used Linux for a long time and win 10 is going to push PC users
to it,especially if they go to subscription model.


Totally agree.

And if I might add, any period at the end of a sentence should have 1 if not
2 spaces after it. Thanks, makes it more readable.

I was taught (50+ yrs ago) in typing class to put 2 spaces, but saw posted on
facebook by one of my younger teacher friends that the current trend is only
one. Thus why I say one, if not two.

One space after a comma, like this. Two spaces after a full stop.
This makes far easier reading for those like me whose eyesight is not
what it used to be. :-(

The only issue I have is some editors don't like 2 spaces anywhere. If the period at the end of the sentence falls just
that close to the end of a line, I have seen one editor someplace (can't remember) that if I hit 2 spaces then the next
word, at the first space character it does a new line wrap and then the 2nd space. This makes that slight indent on the
next line. It does not seem to realize this and not indent.
Either it's one odd ball editor or it's a lot of editors and the chances of happening are so low that it seems like it's
just one editor doing it. Either way it's an odd happening.

mick wrote on 2/13/2015 6:52 AM:
On 13/02/2015 02:22:40, Big_Al wrote:
Dino wrote on 2/12/2015 7:05 PM:
Robert Brereton wrote:
I have to confess I am beginning to like windows 10, although it still
has some rough edges and missing stuff it seems a million times better
than windows 8. Anyone else agree or not?
Well windows 8 was a mess until I bought start 8 and made it like win7
with a normal start menu.I boot it into the desk top and finally made it
usable.
Well windows 10 right now is more windows 8 than 10 with what they call
a start menu.I ran start8 with win10 and it improves it to make it
usable.They are going to have tiles weather we like it or not.I have
sent feed back about wanting a start menu like win7,but I think it is
not going to happen.I will not say I will never upgrade to win10 but
right now win 7 is a lot better than 8 or 10.All I want is a text only
start menu with no tiles that are useless on a PC.I use apps on my
smartphone and I will not use them on my Desktop OS.
I have used Linux for a long time and win 10 is going to push PC users
to it,especially if they go to subscription model.


Totally agree.

And if I might add, any period at the end of a sentence should have 1 if not
2 spaces after it. Thanks, makes it more readable.

I was taught (50+ yrs ago) in typing class to put 2 spaces, but saw posted on
facebook by one of my younger teacher friends that the current trend is only
one. Thus why I say one, if not two.

One space after a comma, like this. Two spaces after a full stop.
This makes far easier reading for those like me whose eyesight is not
what it used to be. :-(

The only issue I have is some editors don't like 2 spaces anywhere. If the period at the end of the sentence falls just
that close to the end of a line, I have seen one editor someplace (can't remember) that if I hit 2 spaces then the next
word, at the first space character it does a new line wrap and then the 2nd space. This makes that slight indent on the
next line. It does not seem to realize this and not indent.
Either it's one odd ball editor or it's a lot of editors and the chances of happening are so low that it seems like it's
just one editor doing it. Either way it's an odd happening.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:22:40 -0500, Big_Al wrote:


I was taught (50+ yrs ago) in typing class to put 2 spaces, but saw posted on facebook by one of my younger teacher
friends that the current trend is only one. Thus why I say one, if not two.


It's not a matter of "the current trend." Two spaces between sentences
is just *wrong* these days.

Back in the days of typewriters and monospaced fonts (when you were
taught typing), it was right, but not anymore, with computers and
proportional spacing. See
http://www.fonts.com/content/learnin.../double-spaces

On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:22:40 -0500, Big_Al wrote:


I was taught (50+ yrs ago) in typing class to put 2 spaces, but saw posted on facebook by one of my younger teacher
friends that the current trend is only one. Thus why I say one, if not two.


It's not a matter of "the current trend." Two spaces between sentences
is just *wrong* these days.

Back in the days of typewriters and monospaced fonts (when you were
taught typing), it was right, but not anymore, with computers and
proportional spacing. See
http://www.fonts.com/content/learnin.../double-spaces

On 2/13/2015 7:32 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 13/02/2015 in message Bill wrote:

I'm still not sure why people use Start 8 and similar when you can get
the similar effect by creating a new toolbar on the taskbar and
directing it to
C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows and selecting Start Menu.

Try:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

A very subtle difference :-)

I am trying to make this work but when I get to start menu nothing
happens!.
I must be doing something wrong but don't know what, Any hints

Regards, Rene

On 2/13/2015 7:32 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 13/02/2015 in message Bill wrote:

I'm still not sure why people use Start 8 and similar when you can get
the similar effect by creating a new toolbar on the taskbar and
directing it to
C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows and selecting Start Menu.

Try:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

A very subtle difference :-)

I am trying to make this work but when I get to start menu nothing
happens!.
I must be doing something wrong but don't know what, Any hints

Regards, Rene

On 13/02/2015 in message Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

I am trying to make this work but when I get to start menu nothing
happens!.
I must be doing something wrong but don't know what, Any hints

Depends on what you want to do - for instance you could right click on the
Taskbar and set it up as a new Toolbar.

--
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
All things being equal, fat people use more soap

On 13/02/2015 in message Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

I am trying to make this work but when I get to start menu nothing
happens!.
I must be doing something wrong but don't know what, Any hints

Depends on what you want to do - for instance you could right click on the
Taskbar and set it up as a new Toolbar.

--
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
All things being equal, fat people use more soap

On 13 Feb 2015, Big_Al wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

Either it's one odd ball
editor or it's a lot of editors and the chances of happening are
so low that it seems like it's just one editor doing it. Either
way it's an odd happening.

Two spaces after a sentence is pretty much obsolete. One space is
considered to be standard form now. The justification seems to have to
with the prevalence of proportional spacing fonts and automatic
kerning. Two spaces improved readability in the days of monospace
typewriters, but not with modern computer text, or so I have read. Even
though I still sometimes fall back on my typing training and type two
spaces, I have to agree - one space or two makes little difference to
my eyes.

On 13 Feb 2015, Big_Al wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

Either it's one odd ball
editor or it's a lot of editors and the chances of happening are
so low that it seems like it's just one editor doing it. Either
way it's an odd happening.

Two spaces after a sentence is pretty much obsolete. One space is
considered to be standard form now. The justification seems to have to
with the prevalence of proportional spacing fonts and automatic
kerning. Two spaces improved readability in the days of monospace
typewriters, but not with modern computer text, or so I have read. Even
though I still sometimes fall back on my typing training and type two
spaces, I have to agree - one space or two makes little difference to
my eyes.

In message , Jeff Gaines
writes
On 13/02/2015 in message Rene
Lamontagne wrote:

I am trying to make this work but when I get to start menu nothing
happens!.
I must be doing something wrong but don't know what, Any hints

Depends on what you want to do - for instance you could right click on
the Taskbar and set it up as a new Toolbar.

What I do is:

Enable hidden files, right-click on the Taskbar, click Toolbars and then
"New toolbar".
Browse to C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu and, in W10,
Programs on the end of that path. Tell it to do it.

This produces the words Start Menu or Programs on the Taskbar, and there
are 2 little arrows beside them. Click on the arrows and there is the
menu.

I'm not sure what Jeff's different path achieves, as I haven't made that
work here either.

--
Bill

In message , Jeff Gaines
writes
On 13/02/2015 in message Rene
Lamontagne wrote:

I am trying to make this work but when I get to start menu nothing
happens!.
I must be doing something wrong but don't know what, Any hints

Depends on what you want to do - for instance you could right click on
the Taskbar and set it up as a new Toolbar.

What I do is:

Enable hidden files, right-click on the Taskbar, click Toolbars and then
"New toolbar".
Browse to C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu and, in W10,
Programs on the end of that path. Tell it to do it.

This produces the words Start Menu or Programs on the Taskbar, and there
are 2 little arrows beside them. Click on the arrows and there is the
menu.

I'm not sure what Jeff's different path achieves, as I haven't made that
work here either.

--
Bill

On 2/13/2015 12:41 PM, Bill wrote:
In message , Jeff Gaines
writes
On 13/02/2015 in message Rene
Lamontagne wrote:

I am trying to make this work but when I get to start menu nothing
happens!.
I must be doing something wrong but don't know what, Any hints

Depends on what you want to do - for instance you could right click on
the Taskbar and set it up as a new Toolbar.

What I do is:

Enable hidden files, right-click on the Taskbar, click Toolbars and then
"New toolbar".
Browse to C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu and, in W10,
Programs on the end of that path. Tell it to do it.

This produces the words Start Menu or Programs on the Taskbar, and there
are 2 little arrows beside them. Click on the arrows and there is the menu.

I'm not sure what Jeff's different path achieves, as I haven't made that
work here either.

Thanks Bill, Yes that did the job just fine :-))

Best regards, Rene

On 2/13/2015 12:41 PM, Bill wrote:
In message , Jeff Gaines
writes
On 13/02/2015 in message Rene
Lamontagne wrote:

I am trying to make this work but when I get to start menu nothing
happens!.
I must be doing something wrong but don't know what, Any hints

Depends on what you want to do - for instance you could right click on
the Taskbar and set it up as a new Toolbar.

What I do is:

Enable hidden files, right-click on the Taskbar, click Toolbars and then
"New toolbar".
Browse to C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu and, in W10,
Programs on the end of that path. Tell it to do it.

This produces the words Start Menu or Programs on the Taskbar, and there
are 2 little arrows beside them. Click on the arrows and there is the menu.

I'm not sure what Jeff's different path achieves, as I haven't made that
work here either.

Thanks Bill, Yes that did the job just fine :-))

Best regards, Rene

On 13/02/2015 in message Bill wrote:

I'm not sure what Jeff's different path achieves, as I haven't made that
work here either.

'ProgramData' is one word on my Win7 system but seems to be 'Program Data'
on yours. Odd isn't it :-)

--
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.