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February 17th 15, 06:25 PM
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Still testing
I'm now installing the latest release of Win10 preview.
I've been comparing Win 10 to Win 8 Both running in a virtual machine and Win10 definitely runs better. To be sure I was making a fair comparison I figured I better check to see how I have the Virtual Machines set up. I've assigned 2 gigs of RAM to Win8 and I see I only have 1.5 assigned to Win 10 That's pretty impressive. I really doubt if too many would even thing of using that small amount of RAM 
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February 17th 15, 08:08 PM
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Still testing
philo wrote:
I'm now installing the latest release of Win10 preview. I've been comparing Win 10 to Win 8 Both running in a virtual machine and Win10 definitely runs better. To be sure I was making a fair comparison I figured I better check to see how I have the Virtual Machines set up. I've assigned 2 gigs of RAM to Win8 and I see I only have 1.5 assigned to Win 10 That's pretty impressive. I really doubt if too many would even thing of using that small amount of RAM They make Win8.1 tablets now, with 1GB of RAM. The Walmart "Black Friday" special was an example of that. Just keep dialing down the RAM, until you break it :-) Paul
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February 17th 15, 09:35 PM
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On 02/17/2015 02:08 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote: I really doubt if too many would even thing of using that small amount of RAM They make Win8.1 tablets now, with 1GB of RAM. The Walmart "Black Friday" special was an example of that. Just keep dialing down the RAM, until you break it :-) Paul 1 gig is incredibly little
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February 17th 15, 10:59 PM
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philo wrote:
On 02/17/2015 02:08 PM, Paul wrote: philo wrote: I really doubt if too many would even thing of using that small amount of RAM They make Win8.1 tablets now, with 1GB of RAM. The Walmart "Black Friday" special was an example of that. Just keep dialing down the RAM, until you break it :-) Paul 1 gig is incredibly little The OS only needs 350MB. But you can confirm that for me, as an avid experimenter. That's my result for Windows 8, and Win 10 should be roughly the same. When you have a 1GB tablet, that's 350MB for the OS and 650MB for some movie viewer you're using :-) Because 650MB isn't going to go very far with something like Photoshop. If you're consuming content, it'll be enough. Paul
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February 18th 15, 02:35 AM
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Still testing
On 02/17/2015 04:59 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote: On 02/17/2015 02:08 PM, Paul wrote: philo wrote: I really doubt if too many would even thing of using that small amount of RAM They make Win8.1 tablets now, with 1GB of RAM. The Walmart "Black Friday" special was an example of that. Just keep dialing down the RAM, until you break it :-) Paul 1 gig is incredibly little The OS only needs 350MB. But you can confirm that for me, as an avid experimenter. That's my result for Windows 8, and Win 10 should be roughly the same. When you have a 1GB tablet, that's 350MB for the OS and 650MB for some movie viewer you're using :-) Because 650MB isn't going to go very far with something like Photoshop. If you're consuming content, it'll be enough. Paul For good comparison I have the 32bit versions of Win8 and Win10 Win 10 runs what I would consider "normally" and ram usage at idle is 460 megs Win 8 is exceedingly sluggish...essentially unusable. ram use at idle is 1250 megs. No 3rd party apps running. Windows Defender is taking up a lot of that. Of course now days I would never build a machine with less than 8 gigs of RAM...but from the little bit I've seen Win10 is going to be way more popular that win8
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February 18th 15, 02:40 AM
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Still testing
On 02/17/2015 06:12 PM, Dave Doe wrote:
I To be sure I was making a fair comparison I figured I better check to see how I have the Virtual Machines set up. I've assigned 2 gigs of RAM to Win8 and I see I only have 1.5 assigned to Win 10 That's pretty impressive. I really doubt if too many would even thing of using that small amount of RAM I can't see that it's changed a lot since Vista (the kernel etc I'm talking about). Check out some "Minwin" links... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinWin http://windows-now.com/blogs/robert/...plains-minwin- once-and-for-all.aspx http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/Going...ch-On-Working- at-Microsoft-Windows-Server-2008-Kernel-MinWin-vs-ServerCore-HyperV/ (I hope that's the right vid - very interesting - I enjoyed it) All versions of Windows XP and newer look pretty much the same to me. I know all the code has been re-written but really I don't see anything new. The big day for me was when I moved from Win95 to Win98 so I could get USB support. Other than that all I've seen with Windows are some built-in apps where previously 3rd party was needed. Other than that, what has made the most difference to me is moving from a 32 to a 64 bit OS
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February 18th 15, 02:06 PM
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Win8 now tweaked
did some fine tuning and got memory usage on Win8 down to 680 megs
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February 18th 15, 02:37 PM
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Win8 now tweaked
"philo" escreveu na mensagem ... did some fine tuning and got memory usage on Win8 down to 680 megs .... What have you done?
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February 18th 15, 02:48 PM
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Win8 now tweaked
On 02/18/2015 08:37 AM, Fernandes wrote:
"philo" escreveu na mensagem ... did some fine tuning and got memory usage on Win8 down to 680 megs ... What have you done? It turned out that I was wrong when I said I had no apps running in the back ground. I had Lava Soft AdWare installed that had been hogging a lot of RAM. I uninstalled it and now Win8 is running better.
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February 18th 15, 02:54 PM
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Win8 now tweaked
"philo" escreveu na mensagem ...
On 02/18/2015 08:37 AM, Fernandes wrote: "philo" escreveu na mensagem ... did some fine tuning and got memory usage on Win8 down to 680 megs ... What have you done? It turned out that I was wrong when I said I had no apps running in the back ground. I had Lava Soft AdWare installed that had been hogging a lot of RAM. I uninstalled it and now Win8 is running better. Windows 8 consumes at least 1.2 GB of RAM. Thought you found a magic solution to change this thing.
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February 18th 15, 03:05 PM
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Win8 now tweaked
"Fernandes" escreveu na mensagem ...
"philo" escreveu na mensagem ... On 02/18/2015 08:37 AM, Fernandes wrote: "philo" escreveu na mensagem ... did some fine tuning and got memory usage on Win8 down to 680 megs ... What have you done? It turned out that I was wrong when I said I had no apps running in the back ground. I had Lava Soft AdWare installed that had been hogging a lot of RAM. I uninstalled it and now Win8 is running better. Windows 8 consumes at least 1.2 GB of RAM. Thought you found a magic solution to change this thing. I turned off all background processes but system still needs 0.9 GB of ram.
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February 18th 15, 03:07 PM
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Win8 now tweaked
On 02/18/2015 08:54 AM, Fernandes wrote:
"philo" escreveu na mensagem ... On 02/18/2015 08:37 AM, Fernandes wrote: "philo" escreveu na mensagem ... did some fine tuning and got memory usage on Win8 down to 680 megs ... What have you done? It turned out that I was wrong when I said I had no apps running in the back ground. I had Lava Soft AdWare installed that had been hogging a lot of RAM. I uninstalled it and now Win8 is running better. Windows 8 consumes at least 1.2 GB of RAM. Thought you found a magic solution to change this thing. One thing you might not have done is to go into the Control Panel....System....Advanced Settings....Performance and set for "Best Performance" I do that with all Windows machines I work on...even with very good hardware specs. I want the best possible performance and do not want one bit of "eye candy" . Since I am running Win8 in a Virtual Machine, it is not going to perform as well as Win8 running on real hardware. Since I expect that any new machine today will come with at least 8 gigs of RAM...it Win8 takes about a gig of RAM when idling...that should not be too bad. Also: With Windows 10 I am of course just running the Technical Preview version and I'd sure things will change in it's final release
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February 18th 15, 03:22 PM
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Win8 now tweaked
"philo" escreveu na mensagem ...
On 02/18/2015 08:54 AM, Fernandes wrote: "philo" escreveu na mensagem ... On 02/18/2015 08:37 AM, Fernandes wrote: "philo" escreveu na mensagem ... did some fine tuning and got memory usage on Win8 down to 680 megs ... What have you done? It turned out that I was wrong when I said I had no apps running in the back ground. I had Lava Soft AdWare installed that had been hogging a lot of RAM. I uninstalled it and now Win8 is running better. Windows 8 consumes at least 1.2 GB of RAM. Thought you found a magic solution to change this thing. One thing you might not have done is to go into the Control Panel....System....Advanced Settings....Performance and set for "Best Performance" I do that with all Windows machines I work on...even with very good hardware specs. I want the best possible performance and do not want one bit of "eye candy" . Since I am running Win8 in a Virtual Machine, it is not going to perform as well as Win8 running on real hardware. Since I expect that any new machine today will come with at least 8 gigs of RAM...it Win8 takes about a gig of RAM when idling...that should not be too bad. Also: With Windows 10 I am of course just running the Technical Preview version and I'd sure things will change in it's final release Simple machines still come with 2 GB RAM like the Celeron ones and there are tablets with only 1 GB. Machines with 8 GB are the most expensive we have on market. So, I don't understand how Paul can say Windows 8.1 consumes 350 MB in idle. One thing you can do to speed up system performance is setting virtual memory to fixed recommended amount.
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February 18th 15, 03:24 PM
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Win8 now tweaked
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:05:52 -0000, "Fernandes"
wrote: "Fernandes" escreveu na mensagem ... "philo" escreveu na mensagem ... On 02/18/2015 08:37 AM, Fernandes wrote: "philo" escreveu na mensagem ... did some fine tuning and got memory usage on Win8 down to 680 megs ... What have you done? It turned out that I was wrong when I said I had no apps running in the back ground. I had Lava Soft AdWare installed that had been hogging a lot of RAM. I uninstalled it and now Win8 is running better. Windows 8 consumes at least 1.2 GB of RAM. Thought you found a magic solution to change this thing. I turned off all background processes but system still needs 0.9 GB of ram. I don't know what "turned off all background processes" means, but if you were to literally do that, Windows would stop.
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