Recovery partition

On 2015-02-26, Paul wrote:
Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:59:16 -0500, Paul wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:30:41 -0500, Paul wrote:

I checked mine, and it doesn't have that (a third partition).
It has the three partitions that I had setup (MBR setup). Maybe
yours uses a GPT setup ?

I think I installed Win10 (makes two partitions), then used
Disk Management to define a third DATA partition to fill out
the 500GB drive. There is no room for another partition to
"sneak in".
If you have three primary partitions, there's room for one more primary,
right? Or one extended, containing one or more logicals.

A partition would have to be shrunk, to make space for the
partition. I filled the whole disk, by extending the DATA
partition right up to the end.

Yes, there's room in the MBR, but no space at the
end of the disk for the file system.

Gotcha, thanks. I was obviously thinking MBR.


Purely in the interest of Science, the next chance
I get, I'll make room for Win10 to do what it wants :-)
Win10 wants to give me an update, but I haven't let it
yet. I'll leave a little space at the end, if it
wants to make its own partition.

Paul

My laptop is win10 via "upgrade" in that it is like doing a win7 to
win8 upgrade, sortof. I see that win10 created a partition called
"system reserved" of 100 mb. The partition is different from the
original win7 OEM recovery partition; so wonder what happens
if I can change it to a win10 recovery partition!

On the desktop, win10 is running under hyper-v & disk management
says that there is a 300 mb "system reserved" partition.

What's in the "system reserved" partition?? Both the laptop and
desktop are mbr oriented, not in uefi mode.

On 02/26/2015 10:32 PM, lew wrote:
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Purely in the interest of Science, the next chance
I get, I'll make room for Win10 to do what it wants :-)
Win10 wants to give me an update, but I haven't let it
yet. I'll leave a little space at the end, if it
wants to make its own partition.

Paul

My laptop is win10 via "upgrade" in that it is like doing a win7 to
win8 upgrade, sortof. I see that win10 created a partition called
"system reserved" of 100 mb. The partition is different from the
original win7 OEM recovery partition; so wonder what happens
if I can change it to a win10 recovery partition!

On the desktop, win10 is running under hyper-v & disk management
says that there is a 300 mb "system reserved" partition.

What's in the "system reserved" partition?? Both the laptop and
desktop are mbr oriented, not in uefi mode.




The small partition is the "boot" partition so do not fool with it or
your system won't boot.

A separate "boot" partition was started with Win7

philo wrote:
On 02/26/2015 10:32 PM, lew wrote:
O


Purely in the interest of Science, the next chance
I get, I'll make room for Win10 to do what it wants :-)
Win10 wants to give me an update, but I haven't let it
yet. I'll leave a little space at the end, if it
wants to make its own partition.

Paul

My laptop is win10 via "upgrade" in that it is like doing a win7 to
win8 upgrade, sortof. I see that win10 created a partition called
"system reserved" of 100 mb. The partition is different from the
original win7 OEM recovery partition; so wonder what happens
if I can change it to a win10 recovery partition!

On the desktop, win10 is running under hyper-v & disk management
says that there is a 300 mb "system reserved" partition.

What's in the "system reserved" partition?? Both the laptop and
desktop are mbr oriented, not in uefi mode.




The small partition is the "boot" partition so do not fool with it or
your system won't boot.

A separate "boot" partition was started with Win7

And you don't have to keep it. You can boil the whole
thing into the one partition if you want. I did this
procedure on my Windows 7 laptop (do a backup before
hand).

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=409

If, before installing Windows 7, you use another OS or machine
to create a single NTFS partition, then plug that into your
target machine, then boot the Win7 installer DVD, you can
select that partition and basically force it to install the
whole thing in that one partition.

If you do a one partition install, a side effect is you cannot
use BitLocker encryption on C:. One of the reasons for
having System Reserved, is it doesn't get encrypted, and
is used to bootstrap an encrypted C: partition.

I've also done this with Linux. Some Linux distros use
the two partition idea, and I hate that so much, on
occasion I squash that down and make the one partition.
I did that with a dual boot Gentoo setup (Gentoo x32 in
one partition, Gentoo x64 in another). Made it real
messy setting up the boot on it. But when some installer
insists on making a mess, some of us own hammers and...

Paul

On 02/27/2015 12:42 AM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote:
On 02/26/2015 10:32 PM, lew wrote:
O


Purely in the interest of Science, the next chance
I get, I'll make room for Win10 to do what it wants :-)
Win10 wants to give me an update, but I haven't let it
yet. I'll leave a little space at the end, if it
wants to make its own partition.

Paul

My laptop is win10 via "upgrade" in that it is like doing a win7 to
win8 upgrade, sortof. I see that win10 created a partition called
"system reserved" of 100 mb. The partition is different from the
original win7 OEM recovery partition; so wonder what happens
if I can change it to a win10 recovery partition!

On the desktop, win10 is running under hyper-v & disk management
says that there is a 300 mb "system reserved" partition.

What's in the "system reserved" partition?? Both the laptop and
desktop are mbr oriented, not in uefi mode.




The small partition is the "boot" partition so do not fool with it or
your system won't boot.

A separate "boot" partition was started with Win7

And you don't have to keep it. You can boil the whole
thing into the one partition if you want. I did this
procedure on my Windows 7 laptop (do a backup before
hand).

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=409

If, before installing Windows 7, you use another OS or machine
to create a single NTFS partition, then plug that into your
target machine, then boot the Win7 installer DVD, you can
select that partition and basically force it to install the
whole thing in that one partition.

If you do a one partition install, a side effect is you cannot
use BitLocker encryption on C:. One of the reasons for
having System Reserved, is it doesn't get encrypted, and
is used to bootstrap an encrypted C: partition.

I've also done this with Linux. Some Linux distros use
the two partition idea, and I hate that so much, on
occasion I squash that down and make the one partition.
I did that with a dual boot Gentoo setup (Gentoo x32 in
one partition, Gentoo x64 in another). Made it real
messy setting up the boot on it. But when some installer
insists on making a mess, some of us own hammers and...

Paul




As to the "boot" partition: I leave it.

Since I do volunteer work for a NPO...minimal monetary expenditures are
desired, so I have to work with whatever machines I can get...and quite
a few have small hard drives...so I compress the drive.

If there is no separate "boot" partition, the "boot" files get
compressed and the machine will not boot.


As to Linux...the idea to at least keep a separate /home partition was
originally a good one. In the event that a total reinstall is needed one
can delete "/" and keep /home


Unfortunately Linux is not what it used to be and so many apps dumper
stuff in /home that the former philosophy is not ideal

I found my original hard drive install with Win10 preview's first
release and from disk management...there was no recovery partition.


After updating however...yep, there is now a recovery partition.