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Old March 2nd 15, 12:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
SC Tom[_3_]
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I'm running the latest preview of Win10 (Build 9926) on an Acer V731 laptop,
and it runs quite well. A little slow to boot, even with Fast Startup
enabled, but not any worse than Win8.1, and I can live with that, so no big
deal.

For the past week, I get a pop-up about an auto-reboot at 12:00AM to install
updates. I've set the Win10 drive as the primary boot drive in BIOS, and
left it turned on all night so it could do it's thing, but I'm still getting
the message every day. If I manually check for updates, there are none. My
update history shows 5 were installed on 2/23, 1 on 2/13, 2 on 2/11, etc.,
all the way back to 1/25.

Anyone have any ideas on how to let the system know that's it's already been
rebooted numerous times, and to clear the message? It doesn't show up in the
"New Notifications" app (or whatever it is) in the systray, so there's not
even anything there to change. It doesn't seem to hurting anything, just
gets to be a little annoying after a while.

Thanks!
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  #2  
Old March 2nd 15, 02:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
John Szalay
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"SC Tom" wrote in :

I'm running the latest preview of Win10 (Build 9926) on an Acer V731
laptop, and it runs quite well. A little slow to boot, even with Fast
Startup enabled, but not any worse than Win8.1, and I can live with
that, so no big deal.


Interesting, running 9926 on a Acer 5336 and am really impressed
as to how much faster it boots over Win7

41 secs , power-up to ready to go...

do have an issue with one update, it will not install
and there is no option to refuse it or hide it..


  #3  
Old March 2nd 15, 04:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
critcher
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On 02/03/2015 13:23, john szalay wrote:
"SC Tom" wrote in :

I'm running the latest preview of Win10 (Build 9926) on an Acer V731
laptop, and it runs quite well. A little slow to boot, even with Fast
Startup enabled, but not any worse than Win8.1, and I can live with
that, so no big deal.


Interesting, running 9926 on a Acer 5336 and am really impressed
as to how much faster it boots over Win7

41 secs , power-up to ready to go...

do have an issue with one update, it will not install
and there is no option to refuse it or hide it..



try this page http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058

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Old March 2nd 15, 05:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_3_]
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john szalay wrote:

41 secs , power-up to ready to go...


Win8.1

Power-on to windows logo 10 seconds; windows logo to windows sign-in
screen 5 seconds.

  #5  
Old March 2nd 15, 07:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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On 03/02/2015 08:21 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
john szalay wrote:

41 secs , power-up to ready to go...


Win8.1

Power-on to windows logo 10 seconds; windows logo to windows sign-in
screen 5 seconds.


W8 and w10 are not powered off when it says shutdown. It is
in suspension.

Retest by shutting down, pulling out your power plug and any
battery for 30 second, then firing back up. If you don't
see your bios screen, you did didn't get it right.
  #6  
Old March 2nd 15, 07:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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On 03/02/2015 07:38 AM, critcher wrote:
On 02/03/2015 13:23, john szalay wrote:
"SC Tom" wrote in :

I'm running the latest preview of Win10 (Build 9926) on an Acer V731
laptop, and it runs quite well. A little slow to boot, even with Fast
Startup enabled, but not any worse than Win8.1, and I can live with
that, so no big deal.


Interesting, running 9926 on a Acer 5336 and am really impressed
as to how much faster it boots over Win7

41 secs , power-up to ready to go...

do have an issue with one update, it will not install
and there is no option to refuse it or hide it..



try this page http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058


Did this work for you?

  #7  
Old March 2nd 15, 07:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_3_]
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T wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Power-on to windows logo 10 seconds; windows logo to windows sign-in
screen 5 seconds.


W8 and w10 are not powered off when it says shutdown. It is
in suspension.


I thought I had fast startup disabled, but I cheecked and I hadn't, so
disabled it, now windows logo to sign-in 7 seconds.

Retest by shutting down, pulling out your power plug and any
battery for 30 second, then firing back up. If you don't
see your bios screen, you did didn't get it right.


The 10 seconds /was/ the BIOS screen

  #8  
Old March 2nd 15, 09:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In the last episode of , T
said:

On 03/02/2015 08:21 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
john szalay wrote:

41 secs , power-up to ready to go...


Win8.1

Power-on to windows logo 10 seconds; windows logo to windows sign-in
screen 5 seconds.


W8 and w10 are not powered off when it says shutdown. It is
in suspension.

Retest by shutting down, pulling out your power plug and any
battery for 30 second, then firing back up. If you don't
see your bios screen, you did didn't get it right.


Better yet, don't do that. Test based on how you actually use the
machine, which typically means you get the hybrid shutdown and nearly
instant startup.

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  #9  
Old March 2nd 15, 09:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
critcher
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On 02/03/2015 18:13, T wrote:
On 03/02/2015 07:38 AM, critcher wrote:
On 02/03/2015 13:23, john szalay wrote:
"SC Tom" wrote in :

I'm running the latest preview of Win10 (Build 9926) on an Acer V731
laptop, and it runs quite well. A little slow to boot, even with Fast
Startup enabled, but not any worse than Win8.1, and I can live with
that, so no big deal.


Interesting, running 9926 on a Acer 5336 and am really impressed
as to how much faster it boots over Win7

41 secs , power-up to ready to go...

do have an issue with one update, it will not install
and there is no option to refuse it or hide it..



try this page http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058


Did this work for you?



yes worked perfectly but I've got win 8, dont know if it will work with
win 10

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  #10  
Old March 2nd 15, 09:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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On 03/02/2015 12:28 PM, critcher wrote:
On 02/03/2015 18:13, T wrote:
On 03/02/2015 07:38 AM, critcher wrote:
On 02/03/2015 13:23, john szalay wrote:
"SC Tom" wrote in :

I'm running the latest preview of Win10 (Build 9926) on an Acer V731
laptop, and it runs quite well. A little slow to boot, even with Fast
Startup enabled, but not any worse than Win8.1, and I can live with
that, so no big deal.


Interesting, running 9926 on a Acer 5336 and am really impressed
as to how much faster it boots over Win7

41 secs , power-up to ready to go...

do have an issue with one update, it will not install
and there is no option to refuse it or hide it..



try this page http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058


Did this work for you?



yes worked perfectly but I've got win 8, dont know if it will work with
win 10


Did you do all of the "regsvr32.exe" steps?

  #11  
Old March 2nd 15, 10:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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Default Automatic updates

On 03/02/2015 10:27 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
T wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Power-on to windows logo 10 seconds; windows logo to windows sign-in
screen 5 seconds.


W8 and w10 are not powered off when it says shutdown. It is
in suspension.


I thought I had fast startup disabled, but I cheecked and I hadn't, so
disabled it, now windows logo to sign-in 7 seconds.

Retest by shutting down, pulling out your power plug and any
battery for 30 second, then firing back up. If you don't
see your bios screen, you did didn't get it right.


The 10 seconds /was/ the BIOS screen


I have noticed W10 more snappy too versus W8.1 on my
virtual machines too. W10 is more snappy in general.
(They still need to fix A LOT of bugs).


  #12  
Old March 3rd 15, 12:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
SC Tom[_3_]
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"john szalay" john.szalayatatt.net wrote in message
31...
"SC Tom" wrote in :

I'm running the latest preview of Win10 (Build 9926) on an Acer V731
laptop, and it runs quite well. A little slow to boot, even with Fast
Startup enabled, but not any worse than Win8.1, and I can live with
that, so no big deal.


Interesting, running 9926 on a Acer 5336 and am really impressed
as to how much faster it boots over Win7

41 secs , power-up to ready to go...

do have an issue with one update, it will not install
and there is no option to refuse it or hide it..


You should have started your own thread instead of hijacking mine.
--
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  #13  
Old March 3rd 15, 01:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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SC Tom wrote:
I'm running the latest preview of Win10 (Build 9926) on an Acer V731
laptop, and it runs quite well. A little slow to boot, even with Fast
Startup enabled, but not any worse than Win8.1, and I can live with
that, so no big deal.

For the past week, I get a pop-up about an auto-reboot at 12:00AM to
install updates. I've set the Win10 drive as the primary boot drive in
BIOS, and left it turned on all night so it could do it's thing, but I'm
still getting the message every day. If I manually check for updates,
there are none. My update history shows 5 were installed on 2/23, 1 on
2/13, 2 on 2/11, etc., all the way back to 1/25.

Anyone have any ideas on how to let the system know that's it's already
been rebooted numerous times, and to clear the message? It doesn't show
up in the "New Notifications" app (or whatever it is) in the systray, so
there's not even anything there to change. It doesn't seem to hurting
anything, just gets to be a little annoying after a while.

Thanks!


There's a hint here. A whole lot to digest, but you
can at least use Regedit to see if something is set.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/hansr/archiv...tchreboot.aspx

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
WindowsUpdate\Auto Update\RebootRequired
mumble...

Rather than the registry key being the end of the
story, that article seems to suggest that various
subsystems can scan and determine a reboot is
required. So don't be surprised if that bit
comes back, if something is amiss in some store state.
While you would hope that bit only gets set the one
time (by the postamble of the update installation),
it may not work that way in practice.

HTH,
Paul
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Old March 3rd 15, 01:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
SC Tom[_3_]
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"Paul" wrote in message
...
SC Tom wrote:
I'm running the latest preview of Win10 (Build 9926) on an Acer V731
laptop, and it runs quite well. A little slow to boot, even with Fast
Startup enabled, but not any worse than Win8.1, and I can live with that,
so no big deal.

For the past week, I get a pop-up about an auto-reboot at 12:00AM to
install updates. I've set the Win10 drive as the primary boot drive in
BIOS, and left it turned on all night so it could do it's thing, but I'm
still getting the message every day. If I manually check for updates,
there are none. My update history shows 5 were installed on 2/23, 1 on
2/13, 2 on 2/11, etc., all the way back to 1/25.

Anyone have any ideas on how to let the system know that's it's already
been rebooted numerous times, and to clear the message? It doesn't show
up in the "New Notifications" app (or whatever it is) in the systray, so
there's not even anything there to change. It doesn't seem to hurting
anything, just gets to be a little annoying after a while.

Thanks!


There's a hint here. A whole lot to digest, but you
can at least use Regedit to see if something is set.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/hansr/archiv...tchreboot.aspx

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
WindowsUpdate\Auto Update\RebootRequired
mumble...

Rather than the registry key being the end of the
story, that article seems to suggest that various
subsystems can scan and determine a reboot is
required. So don't be surprised if that bit
comes back, if something is amiss in some store state.
While you would hope that bit only gets set the one
time (by the postamble of the update installation),
it may not work that way in practice.

HTH,
Paul


I don't have that registry key, or the others listed in the article or the
linked articles. I guess the registry seems to think everything is
hunky-dory :-(

I looked in the event viewer and found a couple of possibly related entries.
I've been working through that with the suggestions he
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_update/windows-update-errors/6e7fa721-2a77-41be-b28e-ebdc6c82862e

From there and other related links, it looks like a common problem. I'll
play with these suggestions for a while and see if that makes a
difference/fixes it. It seems to be pointing to Microsoft Reader and
microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps (whatever that is). I have run the
PowerShell commands listed, changing the package names to what are current
on my PC, and will try a reboot to see if the "scheduled reboot" message
returns.

Since it is a preview version, and it's not my main PC, I probably won't be
spending a lot of extra time on it since it doesn't seem to be affecting
anything else. But then again, my AR/OCD behavior probably won't let me let
it go right away wink wink nudge nudge.
--
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Old March 3rd 15, 01:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
SC Tom[_3_]
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"SC Tom" wrote in message ...


"Paul" wrote in message
...
SC Tom wrote:
I'm running the latest preview of Win10 (Build 9926) on an Acer V731
laptop, and it runs quite well. A little slow to boot, even with Fast
Startup enabled, but not any worse than Win8.1, and I can live with
that, so no big deal.

For the past week, I get a pop-up about an auto-reboot at 12:00AM to
install updates. I've set the Win10 drive as the primary boot drive in
BIOS, and left it turned on all night so it could do it's thing, but I'm
still getting the message every day. If I manually check for updates,
there are none. My update history shows 5 were installed on 2/23, 1 on
2/13, 2 on 2/11, etc., all the way back to 1/25.

Anyone have any ideas on how to let the system know that's it's already
been rebooted numerous times, and to clear the message? It doesn't show
up in the "New Notifications" app (or whatever it is) in the systray, so
there's not even anything there to change. It doesn't seem to hurting
anything, just gets to be a little annoying after a while.

Thanks!


There's a hint here. A whole lot to digest, but you
can at least use Regedit to see if something is set.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/hansr/archiv...tchreboot.aspx

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
WindowsUpdate\Auto Update\RebootRequired
mumble...

Rather than the registry key being the end of the
story, that article seems to suggest that various
subsystems can scan and determine a reboot is
required. So don't be surprised if that bit
comes back, if something is amiss in some store state.
While you would hope that bit only gets set the one
time (by the postamble of the update installation),
it may not work that way in practice.

HTH,
Paul


I don't have that registry key, or the others listed in the article or the
linked articles. I guess the registry seems to think everything is
hunky-dory :-(

I looked in the event viewer and found a couple of possibly related
entries. I've been working through that with the suggestions he
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_update/windows-update-errors/6e7fa721-2a77-41be-b28e-ebdc6c82862e

From there and other related links, it looks like a common problem. I'll
play with these suggestions for a while and see if that makes a
difference/fixes it. It seems to be pointing to Microsoft Reader and
microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps (whatever that is). I have run the
PowerShell commands listed, changing the package names to what are current
on my PC, and will try a reboot to see if the "scheduled reboot" message
returns.

Since it is a preview version, and it's not my main PC, I probably won't
be spending a lot of extra time on it since it doesn't seem to be
affecting anything else. But then again, my AR/OCD behavior probably won't
let me let it go right away wink wink nudge nudge.


I installed the latest version of Reader and the Mail, Calendar, and People
app (microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps) from the Store. Maybe that will
take care of it, or it may just make it worse, looking for an update that's
already (somewhat) there LOL.
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