windows 10 next release

On 03/15/2015 02:21 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:04:11 +0000, Stormin' Norman wrote:

I suspect the use of
"Frankenstein" as a pseudonym will get old for him soon enough.

There's no evidence of that.

:-)


But I do read and enjoy his calmer posts.


Hi Gene,

I am thinking "Mary Shelley's kludge abomination". What do
think? Best to stick with Frankenstein?

:-)

-T

Some people have no sense of humor. Makes life a
burden to experience.

Me Calmer? Why, Why K-I-I-I-I-D-D-D-S-S these days!

T wrote in :

On 03/15/2015 02:21 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:04:11 +0000, Stormin' Norman wrote:

I suspect the use of
"Frankenstein" as a pseudonym will get old for him soon enough.

There's no evidence of that.

:-)


But I do read and enjoy his calmer posts.


Hi Gene,

I am thinking "Mary Shelley's kludge abomination". What do
think? Best to stick with Frankenstein?

I like it!

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 19:18:47 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:06:51 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

"Censor"? I'm not censoring him or anyone else. I have no ability to
censor anyone. But I do have the ability to not read his vituperative
messages, and that's what I choose to do.

You are correct, you have no official capacity here and are not capable of
actually censoring anything here. I used a convenient word to convey a concept
which is why I modified the word by writing "try and censor".

The only other words I can think of to concisely convey the same concept would
be rude and would also be unfair to you. Based upon what I have seen of your
behavior, you are typically very polite and cordial.


Thanks for the kind words. I try.

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:19:12 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 19:01:03 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:53:34 -0700, T wrote:

XP SP3 and Frankenstein (Windows) 8.1 had a lot of rewrites in them.

I hate to complain, but I need to tell you that I'm getting tired of
your calling Windows 8.1 Frankenstein. I don't agree with you that
it's terrible, but even if I did, it might have been mildly funny the
first time, but it's been a long time since it was.

So please, knock it off.

Try my method: as soon as I see the word "Frankenstein" or the symbol
"M$", I press the spacebar. That takes me straightaway to the next
unread post.


Well, OK, if that's what you want to do. Not that what you do is
difficult, but why not use your killfile instead? It does the same
thing, but it's automatic and therefore easier.

Hi Guy,

You all remember when M$ canceled their newsgroups and
went to censored forums?

I kind of freaked out a bit. I have had to use them, found
that if you said anything critical of M$ that you got your
question pulled, and sometimes got outright lied to.

I also found out the hard way that they really weren't all
that helpful. They were their more to defend M$'s reputation
than to help others. That or they really suck at their
jobs. Perhaps both.

I took me forever to figure out how to configure the
Keep Alives on Terminal Server, and a helpful comment
on a blogger to find out what registry switches to
flip to make W7 serve file o a per-to-peer network
correctly. Those are the two that stick out in my mind.
I was obfuscated to outright lied to by M$'s forums.

And I will free share this information with anyone
that asks!

Which is why I like this non-M$ site because we can
talk freely and openly. But it does have its downside.
Free and Open also attracts brand name sycophants (or
tech evangelists, if you please). There goal is
to protect the reputation of their favorite vendor.

These sycophants are usually pretty easy to spot
as they love to condescend. And, they seldom help
anyone. Oh you said "virus" or "hub" instead of
"malware" or "switch". Gag me!

That being said, the open forum still trumps
being censored. But, you just have to avoid having
contacts with those who are not out to help others.
And by the way, if your are constantly digging
a hole under under someone else to build yourself
up, you will eventually fall down that same hole.

For those that do not like me gentle lampooning
various of their favorite vendors(s) and products,
just kill file me! And while yo are at it, get a
life! I am not after your conversation anyway. In
general, you do not provide any useful information
anyway!

I am after free and open exchange of ideas with
my colleagues/peers. I am here to help others and
to stand on the shoulders of giants as well. NOT
TO DEFEND TRADEMARKS!

Telling someone that the problems they are
experiencing is all them and the product they are
experiencing it with is perfect: SPIT!

By the way, I had to change my eMail to just
plain old "T" because of a huge snafu I had to
deal with on my eMail. I made it a danged easy
as I could so that everyone would still know
who I was. If anyone thought I was trying to
"trick" them, you are the worst detective on
the planet.

Now if you think Frankenstein has no problems,
try this:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+8+sucks
Others an DEFINITELY having problems with it.
The point is not to denigrate other with problems,
the point is to share information and be helpful.

Son-of-Frankenstein is headed down the same path.
A lot of people are going to need a lot of help.
We here need to get ready to help those people.
Maybe M$ will pull a rabbit out of the
hat like W7. Hopefully so. If not, I refuse
to lie about it.

Only tell others you are not having a problem to
help them track down a problem. Not to defend
your favorite vendor.

As for the sycophants, go find some other group
or just kill file everyone else that are trying to
learn and help others.

Okay, I am done ranting.

Oh ya, M$ has no problems with its upgrades: SPIT!
Just do a GOOGLE search! Here you go!

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=problems+with+microsoft+updates

Okay, I am really done ranting now.

-T

On 03/15/2015 04:49 PM, Zak W wrote:
T wrote in :

On 03/15/2015 02:21 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:04:11 +0000, Stormin' Norman wrote:

I suspect the use of
"Frankenstein" as a pseudonym will get old for him soon enough.

There's no evidence of that.

:-)


But I do read and enjoy his calmer posts.


Hi Gene,

I am thinking "Mary Shelley's kludge abomination". What do
think? Best to stick with Frankenstein?

I like it!


Has a nice rig to it. :-)

On 03/15/2015 08:44 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 18:10:49 -0700, T wrote:

On 03/14/2015 11:08 AM, GreyCloud wrote:
I don't know why he keeps calling windows 8.1 a frankenstein os.
It is a way to bridge both the desktop and mobile devices. I don't see any
Linux distro doing that, considering the bloatedness of X11.

Hi Grey Cloud,

I call it Frankenstein because it is stitching a piece of
one dissimilar thing onto another. I am not the first
person that came up with that name for it. And it fits like
a glove.

A lot of folks I know (that did not listen to me and get W7)
are almost in tears over Frankenstein.

IMO, it doesn't help that you're in near tears over it, as well. Your
hysteria fuels their fears, and it becomes a vicious circle. Just try to
settle down a bit and things will be fine.



Hmmm. Are you done condescending? Make you feel superior
to others? Why don't you try helping others for a change
and avoid the snot? Keep digging holes under other
to make yourself fell taller and you will eventually
fall down that hole.

T wrote:

Be careful mixing common language with technical language.
Not everyone is speaking to you in technical language.


True. I don't know the technical level of the recipient. I may have even
called you out on hubs vs. switches since they are two very different devices.
Since MSFT has called Win 10 a "preview", I think that's pretty clear its not
a release. I wasn't trying to be mean about it, but when an official release
comes out it will be very different than what is out there now. It may "look"
the same, but previews are really a "skin" to show off and test user interest
in a particular feature. What is in the kernel is important to me.

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:08:41 -0500, G. Morgan
wrote:


I have it on good authority RTM will be in late June to mid July.


My understanding is that it is scheduled for September (although it's
little more than a rumor at this stage; schedules *do* get changed,
and it can always be later than planned).

What is your "good authority" that says otherwise? Please provide a
link.

I can't provide a link. That's the time frame MSFT gave to HP employees and
contractors in internal documents. I agree with you that it can be changed
though. It depends on critical bugs that are unresolved at the time. It will
**** off many OEM's since they based product testing time and unit retail
sales based on a mid-summer RTM. They want time to test and develop drivers
for Christmas sales. September is cutting it close.

T wrote:

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/window...windows-10.htm
"While no official release date has been announced
by Microsoft, Windows 10 is rumored to be released
sometime in Q4 2015, possibly in October."


That would be inline with a June/July release to OEMs. Remember, M$FT does
not develop all the drivers for different devices. We are going to see USB
"C" coming this year, new SSD's, NFC devices, and the horrible implantation of
Intel's TPM chip that Win 8.1 does not play well with.

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

It's not a rule, but it's believed by many people. I completely
disagree. I'm never in favor of waiting for a Service Pack. The point
in time when a service pack is released is at the discretion of
Microsoft and is completely arbitrary. Upgrades and fixes to any
version of Windows are released when needed--once a month, normally,
but more often when necessary. At some arbitrary point, Microsoft
decides to roll up all those upgrades and fixes into one package and
calls the result a service pack.


That's why RTM's are supposed to be beta testers, and report needed changes
BEFORE a retail release.

The RTM's *always* get leaked and people complain about bugs, forgetting that
testing on the RTM is still two months or so before a retail version goes up
for sale.

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 21:33:37 +0000, Stormin' Norman wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:21:08 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:04:11 +0000, Stormin' Norman wrote:

I suspect the use of
"Frankenstein" as a pseudonym will get old for him soon enough.

There's no evidence of that.


Well, now he knows it irritates some people, he might ride the poor horse until
it drops from exhaustion. Kind of like me telling my wife I don't like lasagna
with part-skim ricotta and or mozzarella cheese. I should have kept my ****ing
mouth shut because she has insisted on using it for the past ten years. If I
had not said anything, I am sure we would have gone back to artery clogging
cheese nine years ago.

Now, if I want to cheat on my wife, I go to the local Italian restaurant for
lunch..... ;-)

I can't tactfully speak to your taste in lunch (JOKE!), but I can tell
you that T, alias Todd, has heard others' opinions about his inability
to avoid his prejudiced terminology for a long time, and has indicated
he has no intention of changing.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:34:25 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:19:12 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 19:01:03 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:53:34 -0700, T wrote:
[...]
Try my method: as soon as I see the word "Frankenstein" or the symbol
"M$", I press the spacebar. That takes me straightaway to the next
unread post.

Well, OK, if that's what you want to do. Not that what you do is
difficult, but why not use your killfile instead? It does the same
thing, but it's automatic and therefore easier.

I don't think T's stuff rises to the level of needing a plonk. It's easy
enough to do what I said when I see that he's lost objectivity again.

But right now, I'm not so sure, given his new vendetta against Char
Jackson. He's getting a bit obsessive about it, IMO.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 13:37:00 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:34:25 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:19:12 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 19:01:03 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:53:34 -0700, T wrote:
[...]
Try my method: as soon as I see the word "Frankenstein" or the symbol
"M$", I press the spacebar. That takes me straightaway to the next
unread post.

Well, OK, if that's what you want to do. Not that what you do is
difficult, but why not use your killfile instead? It does the same
thing, but it's automatic and therefore easier.

I don't think T's stuff rises to the level of needing a plonk. It's easy
enough to do what I said when I see that he's lost objectivity again.

But right now, I'm not so sure, given his new vendetta against Char
Jackson. He's getting a bit obsessive about it, IMO.

To be completely honest, I probably let his immaturity get the best of me.
The result was that I shifted away from responding to the content of his
posts and more toward the person doing the posting. That could be
uncomfortable for anyone.

On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:38:34 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 13:29:16 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

I can't tactfully speak to your taste in lunch (JOKE!), but I can tell
you that T, alias Todd, has heard others' opinions about his inability
to avoid his prejudiced terminology for a long time, and has indicated
he has no intention of changing.

Oh well, if we were all alike life would be very boring.


Nobody here wants us to be alike. But some of us do want us all to be
polite and not vituperative in our language.