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Windows 10 Upgrades Will Be Free—
*Even For Pirated Copies*
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On 03/19/2015 02:00 PM, T wrote:
X snip Hi Paul, My prediction is that those with W7 will stay with it and those with Frankenstein (w8) will opt to upgrade to SOF (Son-of-Frankenstein, w10). I don't think SOF will make much of a dent in W7, but will wipe out Frankenstein. Mainly, I think this because M$ won't be able to resist and will throw enough of the tablet portion at desktop users as to keep them on 7. That and M$ like to put Beta level code out as Release to Manufacturer (RTM) and have their original adopters troubleshoot it for them. This will get around to W7 users who will stay put. Frankenstein users will be desperate and jump to SOF. And I predict they will be "mostly" pleased. I think this will be a Vista to W7 thing. A vast improvement from Vista to W7, but not quit the same speed or stability of XP. SOF will (may) be a vast improvement over Frankenstein, but not a full recovery to W7 levels. But, I could be wrong. My 2 cents. -T Yep. At this point it's nothing but speculation. I don't think even MS can now predict where it's going to end up 15 months from now. BTW: I worked on a Vista machine last week and I'll be darned, I see that once the updates are applied it's now in good working condition! |
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On 03/19/2015 12:14 PM, philo wrote:
BTW: I worked on a Vista machine last week and I'll be darned, I see that once the updates are applied it's now in good working condition! Hi Philo, When they service packs (SP) came out for Vista, they drove me out of my mind. When I found them happening, I told customers to just leave their machine running unattended fro two days and it would eventually clear up. I also carried the service packs with me and and set them of updating locally. Started int he morning and comae back the next day to see how they did. Now, getting past all the heart break of installing them, I too have noticed that Vista SP2 is a nice solid machine. By the time Vista got to SP2 though, the well had already been poisoned in the publics' mind. -T |
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Windows 10 Upgrades Will Be Free—
On 03/19/2015 02:20 PM, T wrote:
On 03/19/2015 12:14 PM, philo wrote: BTW: I worked on a Vista machine last week and I'll be darned, I see that once the updates are applied it's now in good working condition! Hi Philo, When they service packs (SP) came out for Vista, they drove me out of my mind. When I found them happening, I told customers to just leave their machine running unattended fro two days and it would eventually clear up. I also carried the service packs with me and and set them of updating locally. Started int he morning and comae back the next day to see how they did. Now, getting past all the heart break of installing them, I too have noticed that Vista SP2 is a nice solid machine. By the time Vista got to SP2 though, the well had already been poisoned in the publics' mind. -T The Vista machine I worked on had been upgraded to SP1 a few years ago. Last week I looked it it again an applied SP2 which was only 35megs or so. Upon reboot there were lot more, and after they were applied more still. It took quite a few reboots to get them all installed. |
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 12:00:37 -0700, T wrote:
My prediction is that those with W7 will stay with it and those with Frankenstein (w8) will opt to upgrade to SOF (Son-of-Frankenstein, w10). As far as I'm concerned you're absolutely right. I'm staying with W7 till they stop supporting it, then I'll take a look at the choices. I don't think SOF will make much of a dent in W7, but will wipe out Frankenstein. Right again. W10 still isn't what I would like an operating system to be, but it's a heck of a lot better than 8 or 8.1. I would advise anybody lumbered with either 8 or 8.1 on a new computer to take the free upgrade. I think many will. Rod. |
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On 03/19/2015 06:36 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 12:00:37 -0700, T wrote: My prediction is that those with W7 will stay with it and those with Frankenstein (w8) will opt to upgrade to SOF (Son-of-Frankenstein, w10). As far as I'm concerned you're absolutely right. I'm staying with W7 till they stop supporting it, then I'll take a look at the choices. I don't think SOF will make much of a dent in W7, but will wipe out Frankenstein. Right again. W10 still isn't what I would like an operating system to be, but it's a heck of a lot better than 8 or 8.1. I would advise anybody lumbered with either 8 or 8.1 on a new computer to take the free upgrade. I think many will. Rod. I just install Classic Shell on the Win8 machines and the owners are fine with that. |
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philo wrote:
On 03/19/2015 06:36 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 12:00:37 -0700, T wrote: My prediction is that those with W7 will stay with it and those with Frankenstein (w8) will opt to upgrade to SOF (Son-of-Frankenstein, w10). As far as I'm concerned you're absolutely right. I'm staying with W7 till they stop supporting it, then I'll take a look at the choices. I don't think SOF will make much of a dent in W7, but will wipe out Frankenstein. Right again. W10 still isn't what I would like an operating system to be, but it's a heck of a lot better than 8 or 8.1. I would advise anybody lumbered with either 8 or 8.1 on a new computer to take the free upgrade. I think many will. Rod. I just install Classic Shell on the Win8 machines and the owners are fine with that. In My opinion win8-8.1 is a lot better if you have start8 than win 10 because you don't have to look at the tiles. Also I find that win 7 plays dish anywhere better than 8.1 or win 10. But I can see that microsoft is abscessed with the tiles. They should have a setting to get rid of tiles for business. |
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 20:01:39 -0400, Dino wrote:
\ But I can see that microsoft is abscessed with the tiles. A typo, I assume, but a *wonderful* one! |
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On 03/19/2015 04:48 PM, philo wrote:
On 03/19/2015 06:36 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 12:00:37 -0700, T wrote: My prediction is that those with W7 will stay with it and those with Frankenstein (w8) will opt to upgrade to SOF (Son-of-Frankenstein, w10). As far as I'm concerned you're absolutely right. I'm staying with W7 till they stop supporting it, then I'll take a look at the choices. I don't think SOF will make much of a dent in W7, but will wipe out Frankenstein. Right again. W10 still isn't what I would like an operating system to be, but it's a heck of a lot better than 8 or 8.1. I would advise anybody lumbered with either 8 or 8.1 on a new computer to take the free upgrade. I think many will. Rod. I just install Classic Shell on the Win8 machines and the owners are fine with that. 1+ I add some of their favorite icons to their desktop as well. |
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On 03/19/2015 05:12 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 20:01:39 -0400, Dino wrote: \ But I can see that microsoft is abscessed with the tiles. A typo, I assume, but a *wonderful* one! I didn't think it possible, but I think Ken just might have a sense of humor! |
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On 03/19/2015 05:01 PM, Dino wrote:
But I can see that microsoft is abscessed with the tiles. They should have a setting to get rid of tiles for business. Hi Dino, 1+ And not just business users, anyone without a touch screen. You will love Windows Red: http://www.infoworld.com/article/260...3804-temp.html But M$ doesn't pay attention to anyone. -T |
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 03:11:26 +0700, Chuck wrote:
*Even For Pirated Copies* http://gizmodo.com/all-windows-10-up...opy-1692096375 "If a device was considered non-genuine or mislicensed prior to the upgrade, that device will continue to be considered non-genuine or mislicensed after the upgrade." http://arstechnica.com/information-t...than-it-seems/ -- Kind regards Ralph |
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 20:01:39 -0400, Dino wrote:
is abscessed with the tiles You might see the tiles as pus filled cavities, but do not let them obsess you. -- Kind regards Ralph |
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Windows 10 Upgrades Will Be Free—
On 2015-03-19 8:12 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 20:01:39 -0400, Dino wrote: \ But I can see that microsoft is abscessed with the tiles. A typo, I assume, but a *wonderful* one! Whether people like the tiles or not, I have to admit that they work beautifully on the tablet and especially on the Windows Phone. There, people can truly customize their experience in a way that Android and iOS don't allow. It might not work on the desktop, I get that, but it doesn't change the fact that their attempt to try something different and, supposedly, more secure (each application being sandboxed) should be commended. -- Slimer OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner Encrypt. |
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:59:43 -0400, Slimer wrote:
Whether people like the tiles or not, I have to admit that they work beautifully on the tablet and especially on the Windows Phone. There, people can truly customize their experience in a way that Android and iOS don't allow. It might not work on the desktop, I get that, but it doesn't change the fact that their attempt to try something different and, supposedly, more secure (each application being sandboxed) should be commended. They don't work beautifully at all on a desktop computer. It's possible to resize the tiles, but choosing the small size makes the labels disappear so you just have a lot of tiny icons with no labels so you don't know what anything is. What would work a lot better would be labels with very small icons or no icons at all, as in a list, like the menus in every version of Windows since Windows 95, and a few versions of Linux as well. Trying something different is all very well, but in the case of software offered to hundreds of millions of people already familiar with a particular way of working, it needs to be optional. Should we commend Microsoft for their failure to attempt to use what has been already proven over several decades? Rod. |
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