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PDFs ARGH!
On 11/26/2015 11:30 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! PDF can be made to be fill in forms. If it is a PDF form you will have to save to a PDF file to save the form with the information |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:00:37 -0000, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 11/26/2015 11:30 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! PDF can be made to be fill in forms. If it is a PDF form you will have to save to a PDF file to save the form with the information I've hardly ever seen that happen. The fact remains we just don't need PDF. -- Do you know what a Jewish dilemma is? Free ham. |
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Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! Pdf's are often made with editable form fields. https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf If yours are not editable then they were not made right. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:00:33 -0000, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! Pdf's are often made with editable form fields. https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf If yours are not editable then they were not made right. The fact is most are not made right. Not editable with the standard free acrobat reader anyway, which is what companies should assume everybody has. -- The reason women don't play football is because 11 of them would never wear the same outfit in public. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 12:53:21 -0600, Rene Lamontagne
wrote: On 11/26/2015 12:37 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: That's my point. The standard Adobe Reader, which is what Jo Public has, doesn't let you edit most of them. Lots of people use Foxit and Sumatra, among others, I gave up on Adobe ages ago. I'm with you. I use Foxit Reader and like it much better than Adobe Reader. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:23:04 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 12:53:21 -0600, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 11/26/2015 12:37 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: That's my point. The standard Adobe Reader, which is what Jo Public has, doesn't let you edit most of them. Lots of people use Foxit and Sumatra, among others, I gave up on Adobe ages ago. I'm with you. I use Foxit Reader and like it much better than Adobe Reader. Anything is better than Adobe products. Except Apple products. -- "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to high office" - Aesop |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:22:51 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:00:37 -0000, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 11/26/2015 11:30 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! PDF can be made to be fill in forms. If it is a PDF form you will have to save to a PDF file to save the form with the information I've hardly ever seen that happen. If you say you haven't, OK, but it's very common. The fact remains we just don't need PDF. That's your view. Years ago, it was also mine, but it no longer is. And you say "the fact remains," but it's very far from a fact. And the enormous majority of people agree with me, not you. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:31:58 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:22:51 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:00:37 -0000, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 11/26/2015 11:30 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! PDF can be made to be fill in forms. If it is a PDF form you will have to save to a PDF file to save the form with the information I've hardly ever seen that happen. If you say you haven't, OK, but it's very common. Depends where you are and where you're looking. The example given that worked was from the US tax office. An example of a thing I've looked at is a UK sample tenancy agreement. My friend is a landlord and wanted to download one and adjust it to include the relevant details of himself, the tenant, and the address of the house. It was bloody ridiculous getting it to work. I ended up converting it to a Word document to make it editable, then fixing all the formatting that got ****ed up. The fact remains we just don't need PDF. That's your view. Years ago, it was also mine, but it no longer is. Odd. If anything we need PDF LESS now. A decade or so ago, there were compatibility problems which PDF was supposed to fix (like Apples and PCs etc), but those days are long gone. And you say "the fact remains," but it's very far from a fact. It is most certainly a fact as almost every PDF I've downloaded to fill in is not able to be filled in. And the enormous majority of people agree with me, not you. Which means absolutely nothing. The vast majority of people vote for the wrong candidate in a government. The vast majority of people believe in a fictitious god. -- I met this gal in a bar and one thing lead to another. I said, "Let's go back to my place." She said, "Oh, do you have cable?" I said, "No, but I have some old ropes that should do just fine." |
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On 26/11/2015 19:43:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:53:21 -0000, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 11/26/2015 12:37 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:29:26 -0000, Nomen Nescio wrote: In article "Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote: Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! Not if it has form fields. Perhaps you need a more flexible pdf reader. That's my point. The standard Adobe Reader, which is what Jo Public has, doesn't let you edit most of them. Lots of people use Foxit and Sumatra, among others, I gave up on Adobe ages ago. Yes, but Jo public won't have those. Are you saying Joe Public are thick like you. Joe Public usually have some knowledge and will find a solution to the problem by doing a quick search and will find free programs such as the above that will solve their problem without bleating about nothing unlike you. "PDF is a read only document!" you clueless **** LOL -- mick |
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On 26/11/2015 20:22, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:00:37 -0000, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 11/26/2015 11:30 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! PDF can be made to be fill in forms. If it is a PDF form you will have to save to a PDF file to save the form with the information I've hardly ever seen that happen. The fact remains we just don't need PDF. What do you suggest instead? -- Brian Gregory (in the UK). To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address. |
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:17:52 -0000, Brian Gregory wrote:
On 26/11/2015 20:22, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:00:37 -0000, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 11/26/2015 11:30 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! PDF can be made to be fill in forms. If it is a PDF form you will have to save to a PDF file to save the form with the information I've hardly ever seen that happen. The fact remains we just don't need PDF. What do you suggest instead? Something everybody has - RTF, DOC, etc. -- Before Murphy's Law, there was IPOIO, the innate perversity of inanimate objects. Inanimate objects move when nobody is looking. |
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On 11/27/2015 7:57 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:17:52 -0000, Brian Gregory wrote: On 26/11/2015 20:22, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:00:37 -0000, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 11/26/2015 11:30 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! PDF can be made to be fill in forms. If it is a PDF form you will have to save to a PDF file to save the form with the information I've hardly ever seen that happen. The fact remains we just don't need PDF. What do you suggest instead? Something everybody has - RTF, DOC, etc. Thanks to this thread I learned something today. I learned that a PDF does not need to be in the form structure to be able to fill in a form in Adobe. You can fill in any PDF document using Comments Text, and then printing the document (PDF or paper), to fix the text you entered into the PDF document. As for the above comment, not everybody has word processors capable of opening RTF and DOC files. I use Word Perfect which can open MS word files, I prefer the convenience of WordPerfect for my primary word processor. A person has bought MS Word, or installed one of the open sources word processors, will e able to open a DOC or RTF file. But working with the church I have come across many people who buy a computer and use the word processor that came on the computer, it MS Works and the Mac equivalent. I still think that for use across all platforms, Windows, Links, Mac, and whatever, you stand a better chance for the receiver to be able to open the document if it is in the PDF format. |
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On 2015-11-26 19:32:45 +0000, Mick said:
Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! this is peter hucker, aka phucker, and loads more. he is a well known troll and had destroyed more than one group he is a sad individual, no woman, no job and no money he will argue over every reply that he gets he will masturbate over every reply that he gets It was KF'ed here a long time ago. Had you not replied to it, I wouldn't have seen its garbage post. |
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 13:47:19 -0000, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 11/27/2015 7:57 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:17:52 -0000, Brian Gregory wrote: On 26/11/2015 20:22, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:00:37 -0000, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 11/26/2015 11:30 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! PDF can be made to be fill in forms. If it is a PDF form you will have to save to a PDF file to save the form with the information I've hardly ever seen that happen. The fact remains we just don't need PDF. What do you suggest instead? Something everybody has - RTF, DOC, etc. Thanks to this thread I learned something today. I learned that a PDF does not need to be in the form structure to be able to fill in a form in Adobe. You can fill in any PDF document using Comments Text, and then printing the document (PDF or paper), to fix the text you entered into the PDF document. Sometimes works, sometimes they won't print or save so you can email it, sometimes it refuses point blank. As for the above comment, not everybody has word processors capable of opening RTF and DOC files. I use Word Perfect which can open MS word files, I prefer the convenience of WordPerfect for my primary word processor. EVERYBODY can open RTF. Everybody with windows can open DOC (with Wordpad if you don't have Word). A person has bought MS Word, or installed one of the open sources word processors, will e able to open a DOC or RTF file. But working with the church I have come across many people who buy a computer and use the word processor that came on the computer, it MS Works and the Mac equivalent. Anybody using a Mac is unimportant and should be shot. Get Windows and be compatible with the majority. -- A patient tells the Doctor, "I've been going to a faith healer, but wasn't getting any better." The Doctor smiled and said, "And what dumb advice did this phony give you?" "He told me to come see you." replied the new patient. |
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 13:51:34 -0000, Joey Wolf Dee wrote:
On 2015-11-26 19:32:45 +0000, Mick said: Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: Why do companies insist on using PDFs where you are required to fill them in! PDF is a read only document! this is peter hucker, aka phucker, and loads more. he is a well known troll and had destroyed more than one group he is a sad individual, no woman, no job and no money he will argue over every reply that he gets he will masturbate over every reply that he gets It was KF'ed here a long time ago. Had you not replied to it, I wouldn't have seen its garbage post. Get a proper killfile that kills replies to people. Mick will be along in a moment with his lack of capital letters so you can see my post. -- How do you play Iraqi bingo? B-52...F-16...B-2 |
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