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Old September 25th 16, 05:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ed Mullen[_2_]
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On 9/25/2016 at 11:45 AM, David B's prodigious digits fired off:
On 25-Sep-16 3:55 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 9/25/2016 at 4:16 AM, David B's prodigious digits fired off:
On 25-Sep-16 1:34 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"David B" wrote

| I wish people would take the time
| to figure out how to get their own web space.
|
| What do YOU suggest, Mahayana?
|

Maybe buy a domain and start a website?
Why not? It's public space. Everyone has a right
to have their own front door to the "information
superhighway". Something useful could be put
there. It's cheap and easy. In the 90s nearly
everyone had an option to have a website hosted
by their ISP. Many people did.

I DID do that back in the 1990's! ;-)

Today it seems
that young people, especially, think of the
Web as a commercial entertainment venue.
As with so many cities in the US, the town
square has been supplanted by a mall.

If people must host images on commercial
sites they could at least use sites that allow
others to access the image without restrictions,
cookies, script, membership, etc. Three I know
of that work fine are dropboxusercontent links,
imgur.com and postimg.org.

Many thanks for your comments, Mayayana. :-)

I've used Dropbox and imgur.com but not postimg.org

I decided to try the latter. Here's a small treat!
http://postimg.org/image/tmohcby0r/


That site wanted to set 6 cookies.


Is that a BAD thing, Ed?


The recommendation of those sites was made in the context of "If people
must host images on commercial sites they could at least use sites that
allow others to access the image without restrictions, cookies, script,
membership, etc."


Did you actually see the photograph?


Yep, really nice shot!

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Old September 25th 16, 05:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Ed Mullen" wrote

| I decided to try the latter. Here's a small treat!
| http://postimg.org/image/tmohcby0r/
|
| That site wanted to set 6 cookies.
|

It's not ideal. I didn't remember that postimg was
such a mess. The page code is full of script crap,
trick URLs, spyware, and I presume ads, from at
least 2 different external "content discovery network"
companies. The actual link, which should be all
that's needed, is buried in the page code:

http://s9.postimg.org/izuo6wpvj/Swan_with_Cygnet.jpg

Actually, their terms say customers are not allowed
to link directly, or even to link indirectly. They may
*only* link to the postimg hosting page.

While the link to the image on that page is just a
low-res thumbnail:

http://postimg.org/image/tmohcby0r/Swan_with_Cygnet.jpg


I also have to view the page with no style to see
anything at all. That seems to be an increasingly
popular trick: Use CSS to make the whole page gray
and then undo it via script. So someone with script
disabled gets no page.

On the other hand, I don't have to enable script,
cookies, or anything else. They may try to set cookies
but it doesn't break the page if you block them. I'd
guess it's probably the adware/spyware hangers on
that are trying to set cookies: spoutable.com,
taboola.com, Google analytics, and probably some
others.
Once I disable CSS I can see the full-res image fine.
But the dropboxusercontent links are a lot cleaner.
They actually link to files that don't have to be pried
out of an adware/spyware trap.


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Old September 25th 16, 05:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"David B" wrote

| That site wanted to set 6 cookies.
|
| Is that a BAD thing, Ed?
|

The thing is.... If you want to show a picture
to someone, why should they have to put up
with a gauntlet of spyware and ads?

I understand that the sleaze is basically the
business model of some of these sites. But for
the people using the sites it just isn't necessary.
It's tacky. It's sleazy. It's a privacy imposition. It's
a potential security risk. It's bad manners....

It's a bit like going to someone's house for
dinner and they explain that they've got a delicious
meal in store, hosted by a caterer, and, oh by the
way, to pay for it you'll just need to sit through
a brief vacation condo salespitch first. Some people
do that. There's such a thing as a Mary Kay Cosmetics
or Tupperware ambush. But if someone did that to
me I'd conclude that they're basically unsocialized
and would never accept a dinner invitation from
them again.


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Old September 25th 16, 06:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ed Mullen[_2_]
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On 9/25/2016 at 12:55 PM, Mayayana's prodigious digits fired off:
"David B" wrote

| That site wanted to set 6 cookies.
|
| Is that a BAD thing, Ed?
|

The thing is.... If you want to show a picture
to someone, why should they have to put up
with a gauntlet of spyware and ads?

I understand that the sleaze is basically the
business model of some of these sites. But for
the people using the sites it just isn't necessary.
It's tacky. It's sleazy. It's a privacy imposition. It's
a potential security risk. It's bad manners....


Which is why I have my own domain/site where I post pics. It's
relatively inexpensive and much more convenient than using a third-party
site.


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Old September 25th 16, 09:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Mayayana wrote:
"Ed Mullen" wrote

| I decided to try the latter. Here's a small treat!
| http://postimg.org/image/tmohcby0r/
|
| That site wanted to set 6 cookies.
|

It's not ideal. I didn't remember that postimg was
such a mess. The page code is full of script crap,
trick URLs, spyware, and I presume ads, from at
least 2 different external "content discovery network"
companies. The actual link, which should be all
that's needed, is buried in the page code:

http://s9.postimg.org/izuo6wpvj/Swan_with_Cygnet.jpg


What's wrong with the table of links at
the bottom of the page that returns after
you do an upload ? That gives you a
raw link. You can test you copied and
pasted the correct link out of the page,
using a second separate browser.

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

A link like this:

http://postimg.org/image/tmohcby0r/

is the *generating* page and is not supposed
to be posted. Look to the bottom of the page,
and select the center entry "for forums".
*Don't* select a thumbnail link, as it's too
small for any purpose.

Paul
 




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