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I did look at the detail tab I don't know if these are filter entries? https://postimg.cc/jW8KHfJH https://postimg.cc/bdS8nsYn I don't know if Avast has any keyboard preferences. Program and Features do not show Sea Monkey but I do have it. https://postimg.cc/NKgWdMtp https://postimg.cc/D4kNLf5Q https://postimg.cc/6TngwR5M I couldn't find the Uninstall directory but it shows I have Ver 2.53.5.1 and it has a download for Ver 2.53.7.1 but with all the problems the guy had with the link you gave me I'm a bit leery of doing so. Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
I did look at the detail tab I don't know if these are filter entries? https://postimg.cc/jW8KHfJH https://postimg.cc/bdS8nsYn Class Upper Filters I don't know if Avast has any keyboard preferences. Program and Features do not show Sea Monkey but I do have it. https://postimg.cc/NKgWdMtp https://postimg.cc/D4kNLf5Q https://postimg.cc/6TngwR5M I couldn't find the Uninstall directory but it shows I have Ver 2.53.5.1 and it has a download for Ver 2.53.7.1 but with all the problems the guy had with the link you gave me I'm a bit leery of doing so. Robert In your second Postimg, there is a Class Upper Filters, and that probably has kbdclass (kbdclass.sys). That's the official driver entry. There don't seem to be any device ones in there, and I don't know what has changed there. I looked in my Windows 7 VM for a quick reference, and your pictures look like the Windows 7 I was looking at. There's nothing abnormal about yours. I agree your Programs and Features doesn't have a Seamonkey entry, but I don't know why that is. The later releases still seem to be using "Helper.exe". Using Agent Ransack, you might try looking for "Helper.exe", which should be in an uninstall folder. While you can certainly make "portable" applications, the advantage of a proper installer, is the Program Files folder is protected with TrustedInstaller ownership. A portable install would lack such protection. The only problem with upgrading, would be that the Profile is brought forward to the newer release, and then it's not a good idea to "go backward" on release number. You could do the usual thing, make a backup, test, roll back if there is trouble. Or a more surgical approach, is to just back up the profile folder(s) and copy it back if there is trouble. (Copy it back over top, then install 2.53.5.1 which aligns with that profile.) But that requires finding the blasted things. An Agent Ransack search for "Profiles.ini" , will find identifier information for all Mozilla-based software products. Thunderbird, Firefox, Seamonkey use profiles.ini. Profiles.ini is a text file. The 8 digit identifier in there, then helps you find the folder(s) that need backup. If you were using all three of those programs, there would be three "profiles.ini" and each would be stored in a different folder. The product name in the folder path, tells you whether you have located the correct one. Paul |
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I checked and neither computer has Sea Monkey listed in Programs and Features. I ran Agent Ransack(basic) and it found Helper.exe for SeaMonkey https://postimg.cc/kBnDPnhF It sounds like creating a clone at this point is a bad idea if I were to go backwards to fix it because I would be in the same mess as the guy in the link you gave but how do we resolve the problem ? I did a search on Agent Ransack(basic) for Profiles.ini and it also found Sea Monkey https://postimg.cc/qtCvxgz0 https://postimg.cc/R67wCv51 https://postimg.cc/zyyWbCYG How do I proceed? Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
I checked and neither computer has Sea Monkey listed in Programs and Features. I ran Agent Ransack(basic) and it found Helper.exe for SeaMonkey https://postimg.cc/kBnDPnhF It sounds like creating a clone at this point is a bad idea if I were to go backwards to fix it because I would be in the same mess as the guy in the link you gave but how do we resolve the problem ? I did a search on Agent Ransack(basic) for Profiles.ini and it also found Sea Monkey https://postimg.cc/qtCvxgz0 https://postimg.cc/R67wCv51 https://postimg.cc/zyyWbCYG How do I proceed? Robert Here is how you back up the Seamonkey folders for later. Two data folders to back up. You could back up Profiles.ini file as well, but there isn't much reason for it to change. In total, there are a bunch of things, but you don't need all of them. Program Files === This is handled by the SM Installer profiles.ini === Has the identifier of which folder is important. Double click to open in Notepad. Profiles === Folder next to profiles.ini Contains multiple profiles sometimes but not always. These guys are in the Roaming section. Roaming === SQlite databases. \___ The named folder Local === Cache folder. Cache2 is mostly junk. / in each. Here is a sample picture of a Windows 7 Seamonkey setup. I have put the named folders, into separate folders for later, to keep which is which straight. https://i.postimg.cc/26m4Qvk5/seamon...le-folders.gif ******* Double-clicking Helper.exe should cause Seamonkey to uninstall. I expect it is reading the log file next to Helper.exe, to figure out what to delete. It will not delete the two "named" folders. When you go from 2.53.5 to 2.53.7, there is nothing to do to the "named" folders (you made your *backup* before installing 2.53.7). Seamonkey will adjust the folder contents for the new (2.53.7) version of software. However, if you install 2.53.5 again in place of 2.53.7, now the "named" folders need to be rolled back. You delete the "local" one and the "roaming" one, then go to your backup stick, and copy the "local" to the "local", the "roaming" to the "roaming". Then, when you install the 2.53.5 older one, the version of Seamonkey matches the two "named" folders. No file modification is necessary by Seamonkey, because it notices the versions match. As long as you don't lose the named materials, you should be able to figure out, with Agent Ransack searches, where these items are. Only too much "deleting", would remove all traces of what the profile name should be. And the backed-up folders have the name in them too. Paul |
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I couldn't find the folders to backup Sea Monkey: https://postimg.cc/rRXw4Nq5 https://postimg.cc/5QBNSQtT https://postimg.cc/RNm0VdsB https://postimg.cc/v4q8hsQY So I can go ahead and install Sea Monkey but does it matter that the folders weren't found ? If I install the new version won't it create new folders? Robert |
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I was thinking, if we uninstall it now, when there's no folders to backup Sea Monkey then we would have to load the newer version without having to roll back, is that correct? Since there's no backup folders it seems there's something wrong with Sea Monkey itself which may explain the backspace key problem once we try it out. What do you think? Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
I couldn't find the folders to backup Sea Monkey: https://postimg.cc/rRXw4Nq5 https://postimg.cc/5QBNSQtT https://postimg.cc/RNm0VdsB https://postimg.cc/v4q8hsQY So I can go ahead and install Sea Monkey but does it matter that the folders weren't found ? If I install the new version won't it create new folders? Robert The profiles.ini string is eight characters long. Your Agent Ransack is missing one of the letters and is only seven characters long. You could copy the string from Notepad, and paste it into Agent Ransack. Paul |
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Robert in CA wrote:
I was thinking, if we uninstall it now, when there's no folders to backup Sea Monkey then we would have to load the newer version without having to roll back, is that correct? Since there's no backup folders it seems there's something wrong with Sea Monkey itself which may explain the backspace key problem once we try it out. What do you think? Robert It's just your search that needs another try. No reason to panic quite yet. Paul |
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That's exactly what I did, I copy pasted it and it was the correct eight character string ( 5f03gcl6). I'll try it again just to make sure using copy/paste again. It did it again with the exact same results I gave you. https://postimg.cc/ftRG4YHY https://postimg.cc/RNHjzSTp btw when running a second time I notice there's more profiles listed. Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
That's exactly what I did, I copy pasted it and it was the correct eight character string ( 5f03gcl6). I'll try it again just to make sure using copy/paste again. It did it again with the exact same results I gave you. https://postimg.cc/ftRG4YHY https://postimg.cc/RNHjzSTp btw when running a second time I notice there's more profiles listed. Robert Go back to my example for a moment. There are two folders we are looking for, total, and one of them is "close" to the profiles.ini file, one of them is further away. and searching with Agent Ransack was intended to make this easy. https://i.postimg.cc/26m4Qvk5/seamon...le-folders.gif C:\Users\BoB\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Seamonkey profiles.ini === says 377otus0 in my example Profiles 377otus0.default === profile folder for "Roaming" one In other words, you can "open file location" for profiles.ini item and navigate down from there, to one of the folders. Just as a way of double-checking that it exists. C:\Users\BoB\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Seamonkey\Pro files\377otus0.default It would be highly irregular, for a profiles.ini to not have a folder corresponding to what it says. Like, I can't think of a failure mechanism that would do that, without human interaction to ruin it :-) Even if you uninstall Seamonkey, the profiles.ini, the Profiles folder, the Profiles folder content, should remain there. The only time it should be making a brand new value of "377otus0.default" is if the software is being installed for the first time. Or, that the software thinks it is being installed for the first time, and Mozilla\Seamonkey never existed. Paul |
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I tried to follow the file path but there's no AppData after I click Rob2? https://postimg.cc/hzScKcRx This is all I could find related to Sea Monkey. https://postimg.cc/143sTmH1 https://postimg.cc/CnRyKKPZ https://postimg.cc/mtFfft1J https://postimg.cc/WdMBzCn7 https://postimg.cc/Mc5gbBgM https://postimg.cc/r0Yb7kVq https://postimg.cc/XXptdpLq https://postimg.cc/QH7PYwRr https://postimg.cc/3kHqs9T0 https://postimg.cc/QV2Y7SVY https://postimg.cc/8JFwJrGV https://postimg.cc/4mvP9gDn Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
I tried to follow the file path but there's no AppData after I click Rob2? https://postimg.cc/hzScKcRx This is all I could find related to Sea Monkey. https://postimg.cc/143sTmH1 https://postimg.cc/CnRyKKPZ https://postimg.cc/mtFfft1J https://postimg.cc/WdMBzCn7 https://postimg.cc/Mc5gbBgM https://postimg.cc/r0Yb7kVq https://postimg.cc/XXptdpLq https://postimg.cc/QH7PYwRr https://postimg.cc/3kHqs9T0 https://postimg.cc/QV2Y7SVY https://postimg.cc/8JFwJrGV https://postimg.cc/4mvP9gDn Robert To be able to see AppData while traversing the file system in File Explorer, you need to enable a certain setting. AppData is a Hidden Folder. Once the visibility is turned on, you can go there. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...show-hide.html To avoid this step is simple. Go back to your Agent Ransack search for Profiles.ini. Click Profiles.ini and use the right-click option to open the file system to that point. That will show you the contents of the Seamonkey folder in AppData. In other words, once you "get below" AppData, things will improve. Why does Microsoft do things like this ? I haven't a clue. Just to add to the misery I suppose. This is one of the "first steps" to setting up Windows here, is turning on the Hidden visibility, then clicking "Apply to All Folders" so everything hidden is visible. It doesn't make the nicest display (some files you don't want, also become visible), but it's better than having to "swerve around" AppData all the time. Paul |
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I re-did it and as you can see there are more profiles as I said including another Sea Monkey. I've highlighted them for you then expanded the screen so you see what they both say. I right clicked but how do I open the file system ? I tried Notepad but it gave me the same result of course with no AppData showing then tried Open but it just gave me the character string. https://postimg.cc/VdHwnLKg https://postimg.cc/B82fr547 https://postimg.cc/nMFfWQ5T https://postimg.cc/F7qt1CKn https://postimg.cc/dhTbCRkQ How do I proceed? Robert |
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In passing, the 8500 is getting harder to start. It doesn't have the same kind of start button as the 780 and in it takes me half a dozen tries before it connects. Once it connect's it's fine. I try not to push too hard (maybe that's the problem) otherwise I fear of damaging the power supply if I do but I shouldn't have to press it down hard either. It should boot immediately like the 780. Also Macrium had an update but had an error 403 on both the 780 and 8500: https://postimg.cc/LntY6CLk Thought/suggestions? Robert |
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I tried it again and this I went into Explore and it gave me
the AppData. I was going through the files of 5f03gcl6 and it shows Chrome folder. Can I delete that? I don't want Chrome on my computers. I don't know how that got there unless its part of Sea Monkey ? https://postimg.cc/4mmxMXQS https://postimg.cc/1nm9KSzM https://postimg.cc/4Ypsky7B https://postimg.cc/T5PgFBtJ https://postimg.cc/Ny4ytp9J https://postimg.cc/fV7y7BKz https://postimg.cc/dD70NqBS Robert |
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